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    What? Them belonging to this ‘white female’ group is something to criticise?

    We already know what the regressive left thinks about "white feminism"
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    Seeing as how the majority of white women voted for Trump, I can't help but side eye so many white women being at that Women's March.
    A small majority:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/u...ald-trump.html
    The data indicate how deeply divided Americans are by race and gender: 94 percent of black women who voted and 68 percent of Hispanic or Latino female voters chose Hillary Clinton, but 53 percent of all white female voters picked Mr. Trump.
    And not to mention that I'd bet my two front teeth that most(I'd estimate > 90-95%) of the white female members of said women's march almost certainly voted against Trump, meaning that they don't bear ANY of the guilt that's being foisted upon them for Trump's victory. But please, keep believing in the wonderful principle of collective guilt; I swear it isn't a totally toxic idea that's massacred millions in the past or anything... You'd think people would have learned the hard way to stop subscribing to such venomous ideas by now, but apparently not, especially when it comes to American politics.

    That statistically, the majority in attendance will be for the very thing the march is against is something to criticize.
    No, it really isn't and I can't even fathom why you think that it is. It's just sad and suggests that you're obsessed with identity politics for believing as such. Really, these last two posts by you are just horrifically bad arguments to even attempt to make.
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    Default Re: Women’s March ties to Louis Farrakhan, and California march canceled over ‘concerns it would be overwhelmingly white’

    Quote Originally Posted by irontaino View Post
    Seeing as how the majority of white women voted for Trump, I can't help but side eye so many white women being at that Women's March.
    I don't get you "Voted for..." people. I really don't. 99% of the people who voted for Trump did so because he promised support on one or two key issues or because they hated Hillary. Not e4verything is about race and gender.
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    Mmm ..............wasn't it white people, particularly white women who helped put the babyman into the White House?
    This is the quality substantive answer I would have expected. Your thinking doesn't really do much outside the last 6 months of media crystallization. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis Skahn View Post
    A small majority:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/u...ald-trump.html


    And not to mention that I'd bet my two front teeth that most(I'd estimate > 90-95%) of the white female members of said women's march almost certainly voted against Trump, meaning that they don't bear ANY of the guilt that's being foisted upon them for Trump's victory. But please, keep believing in the wonderful principle of collective guilt; I swear it isn't a totally toxic idea that's massacred millions in the past or anything... You'd think people would have learned the hard way to stop subscribing to such venomous ideas by now, but apparently not, especially when it comes to American politics.



    No, it really isn't and I can't even fathom why you think that it is. It's just sad and suggests that you're obsessed with identity politics for believing as such. Really, these last two posts by you are just horrifically bad arguments to even attempt to make.
    To be accurate, here's a Pew report on who voted for Trump. Here's an image that talks about your discussion point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevehoos View Post
    This is the quality substantive answer I would have expected. Your thinking doesn't really do much outside the last 6 months of media crystallization. Pathetic.
    I'm not the subject of the thread, American women are.
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    So, why can't white liberals stop hating white people?

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    So, why can't white liberals stop hating white people?
    I can safely say that one does not have to be white or liberal to own a pair of tits, or indeed be capable of marching.

    Perhaps a post that is relevant to the OP, just for a change?
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    That's not the topic of the thread Mongrel. Stop attempting to derail it because your side is full of genocidal maniacs who hate white people and want to gas them.

    Topic of the thread: a California march organized by white liberals canceled because it'd expose them as only white. Other than the antisemitism among minorities.

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    Tamika Mallory, co-chair of Intersectional Feminist Women’s March, twice refused to denounce Louis Farrakhan for his anti-semitism on The View this week. The Democratic Party, at last, has finally withdrawn their partnership with the Women’s March because of her comments on the view, but this should have happened months ago. They join the SPLC which quietly walked away last week as well.



    Mallory said:

    “I didn’t call him the greatest of all time because of his rhetoric," Mallory said. "I called him the greatest of all time because of what he’s done in black communities.
    That’s like saying “I didn’t call Hitler the greatestof all time because of his rhetoric, it was because of what he’s done for the German economy”.

    Co-host Meghan McCain, then asked a more pointed question.

    "You're talking about women, you should be talking about all women, including Jewish women and conservative women," she said. "Do you condemn Farrakhan's remarks about Jewish people?"

    "We didn't make those remarks," Mallory responded. "I don’t agree with many of Minister Farrakhan’s statements."

    "Do you condemn them?" McCain asked again.

    "I don't agree with these statements," Mallory said. "It’s not my language, it’s not the way that I speak, it’s not how I organize... I should never be judged through the lens of a man."

    “You won’t condemn it,” McCain said.
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    She has a long history with the leader of Nation of Islam, and was his national organiser for his ‘Justice or Else’ rally in 2015. She also refused to denounce him after attending a speech where he said “The powerful Jews are my enemy”. She has called him ‘the greatest of all time’.

    Here’s a small collection of his statements. Prominent Democrats and feminists have been reluctant to denounce him. Among other things, he still has a Twitter account while others saying more tepid things are banned.

    white folks are going down
    Death to Israel
    I’m not anti-semite - I’m anti-termite
    https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/womens...mpression=true
    He has made comments that have been perceived as anti-Semitic in the past, including blaming Jews for “the horror of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, plantation slavery, Jim Crow, sharecropping,” and describing the state of Israel as “wicked.”
    As an intersectional feminist, Mallory only sees the world through a racialist lens of power dynamics. She sees Whites and Jews as in power, and others as oppressed classes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/23/u...-semitism.html
    But she said the conversation took a turn when Tamika Mallory, a black gun control activist, and Carmen Perez, a Latina criminal justice reform activist, replied that Jews needed to confront their own role in racism.
    Ms. Mallory and Ms. Perez say they categorically condemn anti-Semitism, and that when they asked Ms. Wruble to leave the group, it had nothing to do with her being Jewish. But they acknowledged that the role of Jewish women was discussed in that first meeting.

    “Since that conversation, we’ve all learned a lot about how while white Jews, as white people, uphold white supremacy, ALL Jews are targeted by it,” Ms. Mallory said in a statement to The New York Times.
    “As a leader, as a black leader in a country that is still dealing with some very serious unresolved issues as it relates to the black experience in this country, I go into a lot of difficult spaces,” Mallory told “The View.” “Wherever my people are, there that’s where I must also be.”
    This black identitarianism must stop, and the Democratic party embracing it does not help. It’s not the content of Farrakhan’s character that matters to Mallory, it’s the colour of his skin. He is ‘her people’. She’s talking like a black nationalist. These views have been ignored by the Democratic party and progressives for the sake of big tent political expediency. The fact it’s taken this long is sick.



    Linda Sarsour has said of the recent controversies:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/68528...ing-a-big-tent
    As for Sarsour, she's not disheartened by the controversy. She considers it "growing pains." She says the women's movement, let alone the Democratic Party, has never presented a united front.

    "I think the Women's March is actually reflective of this idea that you can create a big tent, but that doesn't mean the people inside of the tent are going to agree on everything," she said. "In fact, they might have very public fights about the things that they don't agree with."
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...he-jewish-left
    "Instead of coming together [after the Tree of Life shooting] as a country to call out white supremacy and the violence being inspired by this administration — the deflection went to a black man who has no institutional power," wrote Sarsour in her open letter, referring to Farrakhan. "[T]his is a feature of white supremacy," she asserted.
    Another Islamist, she has spoke at a conference in Chicago:

    https://www.conservativereview.com/n...ist-gathering/
    At the Chicago conference, Sarsour will be joined by a who’s who of America’s most fringe Islamist preachers, including:

    Imam Omar Suleiman, a gay-bashing
    imamwho has endorsed honor killings, the act of murdering a family member for her allegedly inappropriate behavior to restore “honor” within the community or household.

    Nihad Awad, the executive director of the
    Hamas-tied Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), a U.S.-based group that was founded to build support for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States. Awad has previously declared that he is “in support of the Hamas movement,” which remains a U.S.-designated terrorist organization. The UAE recently listed CAIR itself as a terrorist organization.

    Mazen Mokhtar, who was identified in a federal affidavit as the individual behind a website to
    raise funds for the Taliban and Chechen terrorists.

    The groups that combined to host the confab share an extremist, anti-American agenda.

    In a major terrorism financing case, federal prosecutors labeled the Muslim American Society (MAS) as an “overt arm” of the Muslim Brotherhood, a global Islamist organization that seeks to impose the primitive and barbaric Sharia law and a global Islamic caliphate.
    Sarsour has also accused a Jewish man of loyalty to Israel.

    Of Jews, Sarsour has said:
    https://www.jta.org/2018/08/10/unite...ower-mean-jews
    I want to make the distinction that while anti-Semitism is something that impacts Jewish Americans, it’s different than anti-black racism or Islamophobia because it’s not systemic,” said Sarsour, the Women’s March leader and prominent activist in the anti-Israel Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, in a video posted to Facebook by Jewish Voice for Peace in April. “It’s not systemic, and we need to make that distinction
    This re-definition of racism as prejudice+power, has hamstrung the progressive movement, making the snake eat its own tail. They refuse to recognise discrimination against whites or Jews. It’s based on ‘getting more black women into positions of power’ according to Tamika Mallory. Some progressives think Jews are too powerful to be victims of racism. In fact, they “uphold white supremacy”.

    “The thing I’m always worried about in the world is power, and how power is wielded in ways that cause inequity,” Harris-Perry said earlier this year about Nation of Islam founder Louis Farrahkhan, a notorious anti-Semite. “So if you can show me that Minister Farrakhan has taken his position and used his position to create inequity and inequality for Jewish people, then I will denounce that tomorrow.”


    In the past the DNC has shamelessly endorsed the racialist message of Women’s March, declaring “98% of black women voted Democrat!”. From their official account on Medium.com, they explain their partnership with women’s march in an article from January last year titled The Women’s March: 2018 is off to a running start for Democrats

    Women’s issues impact all of us, which is why all of us have to advocate for them. Elevating more women to positions of power will make all of us better off, and will make our country stronger.
    Again, you see it, the progressive definition of racism and intersectional feminism. This time not from some fringe activist, but from the Democratic party itself.



    An article this time from Jan 2017 - How the Women’s March Could Resurrect the Democratic Party

    Democrats cannot allow this identity politics to become their platform. It enables people like Steve King, who is an equal and opposite reaction.
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    Default Re: Women’s March ties to Louis Farrakhan, and California march canceled over ‘concerns it would be overwhelmingly white’

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    That's not the topic of the thread Mongrel. Stop attempting to derail it because your side is full of genocidal maniacs who hate white people and want to gas them.

    Topic of the thread: a California march organized by white liberals canceled because it'd expose them as only white. Other than the antisemitism among minorities.

    Well maybe it was cancelled and may it went on.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...omens-marchyes,

    It looks to me like it went on and it was mostly whites in the march. It is California after all.

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    Aren’t there more Hispanics than Whites in California?
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    Most California Hispanics are white, I believe.

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    Ah I see. I thought the largest group in Cali was ‘latino’
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    The fact that we are trying to figure out which hispanics are "white" or not demonstrates the terminal stages of identity politics. Jesus ing christ.
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