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    Americans over immigrants.
    By definition all Americans, apart from indigenous ones, are either migrants or descended from same. Trump's dad was a migrant as is his wife.

    The wall is Trump's Brexit, with the orange fool playing the part of May.
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    Trump starts a stupid fight over an issue he could have slam dunked months ago, he says he's responsible then flip flops and blames someone else, and this proves there's a (((Liberal))) plot to replace whites in the US? Strong logic there.

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    Its kinda ironic, that in civilized Countries the security of the job (and payment) is one of the major reasons to work for the state... I bet alot of the federal employees are regretting their choice right now.

    @Basil: Out of sheer curiosity, what kind of internet sites, newspaper or other media do you deem acceptable for information?

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    Thank you.
    Since a new week has begone, anything new on the topic? Are there even negotiations?

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    God I hope not.

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    This is not an uncommon theme in civilization; once enough people are convinced that their opponents are truly and deeply evil, you can justify doing a lot of cruel things to them. Or, at least, tolerate the cruel treatment inflicted by the more extremist factions of your society. That is what creeps me out about your posts so much. I feel like if an extreme right-wing terrorist were to bomb a Liberal rally or something, you would be A-ok with that and probably engage in apologism on behalf of the terrorist (as has been done by people in the Charlottesville thread). All because, in your mind, the Liberals "started it", so they deserved what they got.
    A political cult always, always, tells it's cultists that they are the victims and are only defending themselves against aggression from the 'enemy', regardless of the leaps outside the boundaries of reality that is required to do so. This sort of mindset can be used to justify anything, and when taken to it's logical end you have people advocating civil war, concentration camps, and genocide.

    I'd like to think those saying we need a civil war wouldn't really gun down people on suspicion of liberalism...

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    Its kinda ironic, that in civilized Countries the security of the job (and payment) is one of the major reasons to work for the state... I bet alot of the federal employees are regretting their choice right now.
    My wife could have all that at a lot more pay and be living a much nicer place - don't forget public service. All her seed varieties are free, and all her data published openly and available for free (and all the coding I do for her is of course voluntary).
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    My wife could have all that at a lot more pay and be living a much nicer place - don't forget public service. All her seed varieties are free, and all her data published openly and available for free (and all the coding I do for her is of course voluntary).
    I'm totally going on Google earth looking for 12 foot ears of corn in Cascadia, then I'll know where you live.

    Seriously though in my family we have a mix of vocations and professions across public and private sectors and I have to say the money from private work does not make up for the honour of public service. In law (the pay gap here is enormous), health, education and information science its been the same experience.

    On occasion financial stress has forced a change and its been temporary until the situation was resolved.

    I do object to the stereotype of freeloading public servants gouging the public purse. It definitely happens and should be savagely punished, but the most common type I encounter are driven individuals who go above and beyond in the same way small business people do to make their enterprises work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morifea View Post
    Is there any other civilized country that has something similar to this shutdown nonsense?
    Obviously not. Well, have a good laugh,
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    A friend told me that a budget that covered a little over a billion dollars for border security was already approved by both the House and the Senate before Trump had some changes to it by the Republicans, adding the extra wall funding, and sent it back to the Congress to get re-approval. Is that right? Anyone have a good article on this time line?
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    Let them eat gluten free cake

    Should we start getting the guillotines ready ? Seriously though, people like this who have no way of relating to working people and who aren't affected in any way by the shutdown are so out of touch with reality. The irony here (I've said it before) is that Donnie is exactly the same; he's lived his entire life knowing nothing but luxury, yet this is the guy people think knows the plight of the middle and working class.
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    As opposed to virtue-signaling Democrats living in rich gated communities, but being okay with disarming their own population , shutting down government to prevent effective border control and then rejecting GOP proposal to pay government workers during shutdown.

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-age...ts-to-protect/

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    You've got to hand it to Trump, he's being pretty clever here. He can't be investigated by the FBI if there's no money to investigate with.

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