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    Unless he did in the name of the BNP or in the name of the BNP's ideology it is not political. Being a member of a party does not automatically make everything you do political, it doesn't even guarantee that you have political views.

    I am not sure how ethical or wise it is to compare TWC members to Breivik. For one I don't know of anyone here who has killed 75 teens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Unless he did in the name of the BNP or in the name of the BNP's ideology it is not political. Being a member of a party does not automatically make everything you do political, it doesn't even guarantee that you have political views.

    I am not sure how ethical or wise it is to compare TWC members to Breivik. For one I don't know of anyone here who has killed 75 teens.
    He confessed to wanting to start a race war.Attempting to kill members of another racial group, to ensure a white homeland is a political act. I'm surprised I have to spell this out. If you remove the terrorist reasoning in Brievik's manifesto, the remainder is not that different to some of the rants posted on this very forum around that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    He confessed to wanting to start a race war.Attempting to kill members of another racial group, to ensure a white homeland is a political act. I'm surprised I have to spell this out. If you remove the terrorist reasoning in Brievik's manifesto, the remainder is not that different to some of the rants posted on this very forum around that time.
    Lots of people in Europe are awake to the fact that in 50-years time Muslims will be the majority population (sooner for Belgium and Sweden) based on immigration rate and birth rate. As soon as this happens we lose a lot of things. We lose freedom of speech (already being destroyed to appease Islam), we lose freedom of religion (Islam is a supremacist religion), we lose human rights, we lose LGBT+ rights, we lose animal rights, scientific advancement grinds to a halt, education becomes a religious affair, non-Muslims become second class citizens.

    Naturally this has driven some people to take violent action. You can't expect EVERYBODY to sit back and chill as their nation is decimated by a brutal dark age religion that is fundamentally opposed to everything the west holds dear. Though I still prefer the good old fashioned way of voting for parties which oppose the destruction of their nation via mass immigration from people who literally admit they want to destroy your nation and replace your entire civilization with Islam.

    Again, as I said earlier, it's going to be ing hilarious to see how people like you react when all this comes to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    He confessed to wanting to start a race war.Attempting to kill members of another racial group, to ensure a white homeland is a political act. I'm surprised I have to spell this out. If you remove the terrorist reasoning in Brievik's manifesto, the remainder is not that different to some of the rants posted on this very forum around that time.
    Weren’t the people he killed Norwegian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Weren’t the people he killed Norwegian?
    I believe he targeted some sort of youth training camp for a political party that wants to keep going with mass immigration until Europe is a sectarian warzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Weren’t the people he killed Norwegian?
    Socialdemocratic Youths, also evil communists and therefor a legit target for alt rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Iunius_Brutus_Caepio View Post
    Socialdemocratic Youths, also evil communists and therefor a legit target for alt rights.
    Socialists actually. Not that that justifies terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Socialists actually. Not that that justifies terrorism.
    Just for fun, let's apply the same rules to Breivik as Mongrel and others apply to Muslims who saw off heads, blow children up at concerts and groom and rape children on an industrial scale.

    Ready? I'll go first.

    *Breivik murders 70-odd children*

    "Guys, Breivik was not right-wing, he was a right-wingist. What he did has nothing to do with being right-wing. Right-wing is a political ideology of peace, and the actions of this man do not represent the group. Children at youth camps are statistically very unlikely to be killed by right-wing people, so everybody going on about this incident are obviously just racists that want to attack right-wingers in general because of the actions of one individual."

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    If "few" Muslims commit horrid acts of terrorism, rape and voluntary murder of unarmed citizens for religious convinctions, even though they are "few", actually their crimes are extremely relevant in forming public opinion, because their impact is terrifying for common citizens, and this produces two consequences: in the perception of other citizens, the long shadow of their actions is projected on the whole Muslim community, their political and religious proposal tends to be very effective among the masses of young Muslims (which are not "few"), especially among second and third generation immigrants.

    The fact the fanatic Islamists are few doesn't change the perception of threat and danger produced by their criminal behavior, so, if it's true that not all English, French, Germans, Italians, etc., are Fascist, it's also true that nowadays in Europe all the terrorists are Muslim, and the lack of responses by authorities, the ineffectiveness of any political and cultural strategy concerning integration, opens a huge political space just at the right of the moderate right.
    Now, in my opinion, the political establishment (i.e. Right Wing/Left Wing Mondialist parties) has two choices: or they decide to face the problem of Muslim immigration, of Islamism, and of Islamic terrorism in some realistic way, or they are doomed to follow the fate of French moderate parties Gaullist and Socialists, i.e., they are doomed to vanish form the political scene.

    This is to say that, as always, Fascism is built brick by brick, by the Moderates with their absolute inability to understand that to cope with extreme situations, extreme remedies are needed. Anyway, on behalf of all the nationalist forces of the extreme right I say: "Thank you very much for your kind gift, gentlemen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by anant View Post
    For many people on this trhread, there seems to be a deep confusion between hate-filled individuals committing horrible crimes, trying desperately to justify their violence in the name of an outdated religion's revamped fanatical-last-cry-philosophy, and the actions and intentions of entire nations of people who happen to be "muslim"; it's as stupid an extrapolation as taking the latest white-supremacist school shooter from the US, or that psycho norvegian guy, or the christian zealot who shot up that black church or on that synagogue's altar, and saying that all white people, or all christians are bloodthirsty savages. To put it another way, if i believe the fact that the actions of certain muslims or immigrants means that all of them are savages, why is it wrong for me to believe that all white christians deserve gruesome deaths in retaliation for the horrible crimes a few of their people or politicians have committed? If the answer is that i believe one point of view because i belong to the stereotyped grouping in question, then there is something inherently biased about my opinion. All sensible people can see that horrible crimes are the products of twisted minds; the challenge is to fight the causes of that twisting, be they religious manipulation, poverty, psychological isolation, bullying, political corruption, war, capitalist greed, geopolitical crisis etc, not to demonise an entire segment of the human race. And if your default reaction to atrocities is to pursue aforementioned demonisation, then sorry to break it to you, but you are an ethno-fascist, and your ultimate argument will be for a new auschwitz, and no sane human can support that.
    Fantastic post. End of the thread.

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    in Europe all the terrorists are Muslim,
    Europe is hardly immune to right-wing terrorism. Right-Wing Extremism and Terrorism in Europe Current Developments

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    The number of terrorist attacks by far-right perpetrators rose over the past decade, more than quadrupling between 2016 and 2017. The recent pipe bombs and the October 27, 2018, synagogue attack in Pittsburgh are symptomatic of this trend. U.S. federal and local agencies need to quickly double down to counter this threat. There has also been a rise in far-right attacks in Europe, jumping 43 percent between 2016 and 2017.
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    Considering that Morocco hasn't been mentioned for several days, it seems that the debate has been derailed for a second time (despite the earlier warning), so the discussion has obviously run its course. Therefore, the thread is permanently closed. If you are interested in examining the threat posed by terrorism, in general, or its Sunni, Catholic, Irish, Socialist, Fascist, Shiite, Protestant, Basque and etc. versions, you are more that welcome to open the appropriate thread in the Political Academy, which is a forum designed exactly for this purpose.

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