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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Hamas, Islamic Front, FSA, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. You know, guys who go around Syria and Israel killing civilians and beheading people. But that's okay, they did not violate any Twitter rules.
    Same questions I asked to Dr. Legend goes for you as well: Who decides which group is a terror organization and which isn't?

    Also, does Hamas use that account to tweet messages that go against Twitter's rules like Alex Jones did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    Same questions I asked to Dr. Legend goes for you as well: Who decides which group is a terror organization and which isn't?

    Also, does Hamas use that account to tweet messages that go against Twitter's rules like Alex Jones did?
    There was no evidence that Alex Jones violated any rules to begin with. They just said that he did when they banned him, obviously as part of big tech collusion, and nobody knows what for.
    Most of the above-mentioned groups are internationally recognized as terrorist groups. Some are affiliated with ones like AQ and ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    There was no evidence that Alex Jones violated any rules to begin with. They just said that he did when they banned him, obviously as part of big tech collusion, and nobody knows what for.
    Most of the above-mentioned groups are internationally recognized as terrorist groups. Some are affiliated with ones like AQ and ISIS.
    The list from the state department of USA does not contain FSA, Islamic Front or Muslim Brotherhood. It also doesn't contain Lord's Resistance Army. You wanna specifically rely on that?

    Evidence of him violating the rules was posted by others before his ban. So, what evidence is there that those accounts violated Twitter's rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    They can be as abusive as the government. It just has jack to do with the Government as the purpose of the Constitution is to protect the private and civilian entities from the Government. There is literally no law yet existing governing these websites policies and how they are to govern who can and can not post based on their posting of harassing material. Until Congress gets off its ass...guess what. It comes down to company policy. And only company policy. When Congress passes law then you will get something different. It will come down to company policy based on law.

    You know, like all that food packaging, all that medical testing, all that workers rights, all that consumers rights.

    But there yet is no law.

    So all you get is just company policy. Not company policy based on law.

    So frankly, shove the idea of right wing free market up someone's ass and rotate. Free market's gonna respond to the people and what the people want. If the people weren't doing such a good job ranting and raving about Jones, guess how little these sites(even Apple) could've cared about him.

    You want Free Market. You got it. You want Jones? Pass a damned law.

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    The argument ''we do it only in private companies don't worry'' isn't an argument because globalist leaning government in Europe all passed censorship laws in Italy/France/Germany. The only reason it's not happening in the US yet is that Trump runs the show for now.

    Nonetheless he should really look into anti-trust arguments and break Google/FB/Twitter. No kind of temporary stock market gain is worth surrendering free speech and press to their enemies.
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    Meanwhile to counter the accussations of bias, FB has added ''The Weekly Standard'' run by Neocon garbage Bill Kristol as ''factchecker'' and he immediately stomped ''Think Progress'' that was elated at Jones' ban.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/1...ct-check-false

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    This one's done and dusted. Jones broke a private contract and people want him legislated out of a ban? OK but it sounds like state intervention in private enterprise to me you commies.
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    Point me where I said I want the state to legislate him out of the ban (though you'd be fine if it was your side doing it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    The argument ''we do it only in private companies don't worry'' isn't an argument because globalist leaning government in Europe all passed censorship laws in Italy/France/Germany. The only reason it's not happening in the US yet is that Trump runs the show for now.

    Nonetheless he should really look into anti-trust arguments and break Google/FB/Twitter. No kind of temporary stock market gain is worth surrendering free speech and press to their enemies.
    -
    Meanwhile to counter the accussations of bias, FB has added ''The Weekly Standard'' run by Neocon garbage Bill Kristol as ''factchecker'' and he immediately stomped ''Think Progress'' that was elated at Jones' ban.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/1...ct-check-false

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    Of course the Atlantic Council approves
    There is no free speech bs because the government isn’t interfering with the speech.
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    Actually all this censorship on social media started long before Alex Jones. More specifically after Merkel went full retard on open borders, then rapes happened, then Islamic terrorism, so her solution was to make a law compelling social media to remove content or face fines.


    So yeah stop pretending there's ''no government involved''. There are multiple governments lead by treacherous liberal scum pressuring social media to censor content. That lying sack of rubbish Macron is another, Renzi was another but fortunately Italians are smart and they got rid of him.

    There's only one question and that's how do we prevent liberals from taking away constitutional freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    There was no evidence that Alex Jones violated any rules to begin with. They just said that he did when they banned him, obviously as part of big tech collusion, and nobody knows what for.
    Most of the above-mentioned groups are internationally recognized as terrorist groups. Some are affiliated with ones like AQ and ISIS.
    Most of the groups you mentioned were elected in legal elections fully recognized by US and EU. Just because you have decided that you dont like muslim brotherhood that doesnt mean that its a terrorist organization

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Actually all this censorship on social media started long before Alex Jones. More specifically after Merkel went full retard on open borders, then rapes happened, then Islamic terrorism, so her solution was to make a law compelling social media to remove content or face fines.


    So yeah stop pretending there's ''no government involved''. There are multiple governments lead by treacherous liberal scum pressuring social media to censor content. That lying sack of rubbish Macron is another, Renzi was another but fortunately Italians are smart and they got rid of him.

    There's only one question and that's how do we prevent liberals from taking away constitutional freedoms.
    Twitter banned 1.200.000 "terrorist" accounts before Alex Jones. Conservatives that cry about Alex Jones are at least hypocritical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Actually all this censorship on social media started long before Alex Jones. More specifically after Merkel went full retard on open borders, then rapes happened, then Islamic terrorism, so her solution was to make a law compelling social media to remove content or face fines.


    So yeah stop pretending there's ''no government involved''. There are multiple governments lead by treacherous liberal scum pressuring social media to censor content. That lying sack of rubbish Macron is another, Renzi was another but fortunately Italians are smart and they got rid of him.

    There's only one question and that's how do we prevent liberals from taking away constitutional freedoms.
    The US government has not interfered with any of these sites operations so as American companies their 1st Amendment rights are very well protected.

    You, for one, don’t understand how this law works.

    Europe? Well, Europe doesn’t guarantee the right in such a way as America does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    So Jones is wrong, it isn't making frogs gay.
    I've always gotten the impression that frogs are much less concerned about such normative labels, and they'd kind of have to be considering the types of debauchery they tend to engage in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    The US government has not interfered with any of these sites operations so as American companies their 1st Amendment rights are very well protected.

    You, for one, don’t understand how this law works.

    Europe? Well, Europe doesn’t guarantee the right in such a way as America does.
    Until liberals take over the Supreme Court and the govt, then they'll do the same as Europe. Trump's victory and Brexit are the other catalysts that caused this. You can't say there's no precedent of Orwellian liberals in government enacting censorship on social media recently because there is.

    It is also pretty evident because in US campuses liberal activists have mounted regular protests against free speech. It's always the same side doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    Let's go with that example as it's a valid issue. Who decides which group is a terror organization and which isn't?
    The US, where Twitter is based, plus Israel, Canada and the European Union all designate Hamas as a terrorist organization. In addition, New Zealand, Australia and Britain list Hamas's military wing as a terrorist organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    The US government has not interfered with any of these sites operations so as American companies their 1st Amendment rights are very well protected.

    You, for one, don’t understand how this law works.

    Europe? Well, Europe doesn’t guarantee the right in such a way as America does.
    I suppose because we’re Europeans with no 1st amendment rights, we tend to see most censorship in a similar light.

    And his point about it usually being ‘one side’ has a basis in fact, it means that it doesn’t seem a level playing field, unless both left and right stoop down to the same scummy standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Until liberals take over the Supreme Court and the govt, then they'll do the same as Europe
    You do know its the conservatives on the US supreme court who would likely vote against any case regarding free speech extending to social media?

    https://qz.com/1323253/what-is-origi...supreme-court/

    In the strictest sense, originalists see the constitution as a dead, static document, as opposed to the liberal notion of living constitutionalism.But phrasing it that way—as “dead”—might make originalism a lot less appealing to Americans, argues University of Chicago law professor Justin Driver
    Its the liberals who would likely support free speech extending to social media.
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    It’s the liberals who support prohibiting hate speech laws. But yes, liberals in America are generally more partial to intervention than Conservatives in america.
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    It's not about intervention it's how they view the Constitution.
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    Conservative constitutionalist judges won’t extend free speech to Twitter. I’m pointing out there isn’t a bat in hell’s chance that liberal ones would either.

    Basil is agreeing that this isn’t a 1A issue, he’s saying that if liberals takeover the court then hate speech laws akin to Europe will appear leading to the government arresting people for tweets.
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