Leftwing militant stabs leading conservative candidate one month ahead of Brazilian general election

[Aexodus]

Lasciate ogni speranza. No,he will not win.

I mean, he could. This attack can only help him in the long run.

[Ludicus]

I mean, he could. This attack can only help him in the long run.

In the short run, yes. Anyway
Brazil presidential candidate Bolsonaro keeps lead, leftist gains: poll ...

the polarizing nature of Bolsonaro means he has the highest rejection rate of all contenders

But who knows....thinking about it, in Italy, in the last century, following the crisis/collapse of the liberal regime, the fascists expanded their support among the disillusioned middle classes,and after a wave of anti socialist violence, Mussolini was invited by the King to become prime-minister.
The rest is history.
In Brazil, the industrial elites - the modern slave owners - are with the Bolsonaro. In fact, in a stritu sensu, he said that if he becomes President he will abolish indigenous reservations. As he put it,
"Where there is indigenous land, there is wealth beneath it" (sic)

[Basil II the B.S]

For the sake of it, after reading up a bit more, Bolsonaro is not a ''Nazi''. He certainly shares a number of authoritarian stance and militarist approach that's not uncommon to right wingers in South America. Indeed he's more like Pinochet than Hitler, especially on the economy.

[Heathen Hammer]

From what I understand, he is just an edgier South American version of Ronald Reagan.

[Aexodus]

From what I understand, he is just an edgier South American version of Ronald Reagan.

Then you understand nothing.

Indeed he's more like Pinochet than Hitler, especially on the economy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a United States-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Unidad Populargovernment of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Several academics – including Peter Winn, Peter Kornbluh and Tim Weiner – have stated that the support of the United States was crucial to the coup and the consolidation of power afterward.^[6][7][8]

...Following his rise to power, Pinochet persecuted leftists, socialists, and political critics, resulting in the executions of from 1,200 to 3,200 people,^[11] the internment of as many as 80,000 people and the torture of tens of thousands.^[12][13][14] According to the Chilean government, the number of executions and forced disappearances was 3,095.^[15]

[Ludicus]

For the sake of it, after reading up a bit more, Bolsonaro is not a ''Nazi''.Indeed he's more like Pinochet

Nazi or fascist, it's the same .

[fkizz]

Nazi or fascist, it's the same .

Factually isn't, if you look at it in a less passionate way there are huge, huge differences between Salazar, Franco, Mussolini, Hitler and Hideki Tojo.

Nazism is very different from Francoism, which by the way, remains popular in Spain (assuming you're not in catalunia)

[Basil II the B.S]

Nazi or fascist, it's the same .

I'm sure you can tell the difference between Salazar and Hitler


Anyway Kyriakos had asked some info about regional vote. Bolsonaro is strong in Rio de Janeiro while Sao Paolo and Minas Gerais are on the national average. Haddad is strong in Pernanbuco

[Aexodus]

Nazi or fascist, both are not great.

[Basil II the B.S]

Indeed any regime relying on repression of freedoms is bad. However, let's say you are given the chance to choose between living in Nazi Germany or Salazar's Portugal and those are your only options. Saying ''same crap'' means you'd flip a coin to pick. And you would not. Your chances of survival are nowhere near the same.

[Ludicus]

I'm sure you can tell the difference between Salazar and Hitler

..and Mussolini.
And again -nazi or fascist, it's the same .

Bolsonaro

Bolsonaro leads in voter dissatisfaction with 42% and will lose to Hadad in the second electoral round.

[Basil II the B.S]

You can even add Franco and Pinochet to the circle. None of them reach the brutality of Hitler. Not even all of them together are halfway the death toll caused by Hitler's ethnic purges.

Anyway, back to Brazil, I do think Bolsonaro is likely to lose in the second round, but polls have been wrong before.

[Aexodus]

Not being as brutal as Hitler isn’t much to boast about.

[Ludicus]

You can even add Franco and Pinochet to the circle. None of them reach the brutality of Hitler. Not even all of them together are halfway the death toll caused by Hitler's ethnic purges

In Germany? ... you asked, "let's say you are given the chance to choose between living in Nazi Germany or Salazar's Portugal"

I do think Bolsonaro is likely to lose in the second round

Yeah. And I hope it doesn't happen.

[Basil II the B.S]

In Germany? ... you asked, "let's say you are given the chance to choose between living in Nazi Germany or Salazar's Portugal"

Yeah and would you really say '' if I'm really forced to choose, let's flip a coin because it's the same crap''?

[fkizz]

Not being as brutal as Hitler isn’t much to boast about.

Would you prefer Hitler instead of Salazar?

[Basil II the B.S]

Just to make a leftist version,I have zero issues picking Castro's Cuba over Stalin's SU. Still a terrible country, but nowhere near the level of insanity going in the other place.

[Pakana]

It is stupid idea to have nationalists and communists in the same nation. We could split Brazil into 2 halves and build a wall between them. One for nationalists and another for the commies. Then we could send all the radical lefties from every nation there, so they could build their dream borderles without "rich people oppressing" them. They would be free to stab each others, but leave normal people alone.

[Ludicus]

On December 13, 1968, Brazil’s military government – in power since 1964 – issued Institutional Act 5, which shut down the National Congress, cut off all channels for criticism of the government and gave unbounded power to the president to rule by decree. AI-5 ushered in the darkest years of Brazil’s military dictatorship, known as the Anos de Chumbo (Years of Lead). The country’s official transition to democracy was in 1985.
Chico Buarque wrote this song in honor of Portugal’s "Carnation Revolution" of April 25, 1974. The coup in Portugal happened at a time of extreme oppression in Brazil under the military dictatorship. The regime banned his song.

Chico used the opposite seasons — spring in Portugal and fall in Brazil – as a metaphor for the rebirth that was happening in Portugal as Brazil sunk deeper into the fall/winter of military dictatorship.

So much sea, so much sea

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I know you’re celebrating, friend
It makes me happy
And, while I’m absent
Save a carnation for me
I would like to be in that celebration, friend
With your people
And pick personally some flower
In your garden
I know there are leagues separating us
So much sea, so much sea
I know too how it’s necessary, friend,
To sail, to sail
Over there it’s Spring, friend
Here, I am sick
Send, urgently, some little sniff
Of rosemary.

Brazil, Tanto Mar, take two in 5...4...3...2...

[Prodromos]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...right-politics

Brazil looks set to pivot sharply to the right Sunday with the election of a former Army captain who wants to privatize state companies in an ailing economy, liberalize gun ownership and mine the rain forest.

Barring an upset, Jair Bolsonaro, 63, will win the presidency after a divisive campaign that encompassed his stabbing, an onslaught of fake news and the imprisonment on corruption charges of former president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who had been the front-runner. Lula’s successor, Fernando Haddad, 55, has largely failed to shake off public anger over his Workers’ Party’s record of graft.

Antonio Henrique, a 52-year-old bank employee in Rio de Janeiro, said Sunday that he’s voted for the Workers’ Party in every election since the 1980s, but crime, revelations of corruption and economic recession have him voting this time for Bolsonaro instead.

"Security is a serious problem,” he said. “We can’t even leave home."

Support for Bolsonaro dipped in recent polls but he has kept a commanding lead in surveys by MDA and Datafolha released on the eve of Sunday’s runoff. He had 55 percent of support, against 45 percent for Haddad, according to Datafolha.

As Bolsonaro voted in Rio de Janeiro early Sunday, the former Army captain said his expectations were high: “What I’ve seen in the streets during the past few months: victory.”