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    Default Re: Franco's Mausoleum upsets Spain, again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    You.. are now outright lying about what I said.
    ?
    I'm quoting your posts. 2009: "I'm socialist";" USSR doesn't even come close to Germany in terms of atrocities, comparing them to Nazi Germany is laughable."; 2014, "SS was probably the most diverse and multicultural fighting force in that time".
    2020, "Red Terror and other crimes committed by USSR government ... The scale of these atrocities alone far surpasses the scale of Holocaust".

    Following your line of reasoning, Holocaust crimes < Stalin crimes < German atrocities.

    So, it's hard to believe anything you say.

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    people who resisted foreign occupation were for the most part nationalists
    What's the problem with resistance to foreign occupation?

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    He opposed Vichy France for the same reason European Identitarians today oppose globalist politicians like Merkel and Macron.
    You are confused.Not at all, and the difference matters.The Fouchet Plans - Historical events in the European
    No,the identitarians are/were a pan-European far-right movement which started with the Identitarian Bloc in France in 2003, proposing an European ethnic federalism.
    Which bring us to the question, who are your friends? With links to the Christchurch attacker, what is the Identitarian Movement?

    Austrian police say that the leader of that country’s Identitarian Movement, Martin Sellner, received a €1,500 donation from someone whose name matched that of the accused Christchurch killer.
    The nature of the connection between the alleged killer and Sellner is still being investigated, following a police raid of Sellner’s home in Vienna on Monday.

    But what is the Identitarian Movement, and who are the people associated with it?
    Identitäre Bewegung Österreichs (IBÖ) is part of a larger far-right Identitarian movement with branches in most western European countries, North America and New Zealand.
    Organisations that affiliate themselves with Identitarianism include Génération Identitaire in France and Generazione Identitaria in Italy. The American Identity Movement in the United States (recently renamed from Identity Evropa and banned from Facebook on Thursday)...

    ...The movement’s thought derives largely from the so-called European New Right or Nouvelle Droite (ND), a largely French movement beginning in the 1960s, which attempted to repackage racist thought in a way which would not alarm Europeans with fresh memories of interwar fascism.

    ND thinkers cribbed concepts from the left to present a obfuscated version of blood and soil ethno-nationalism, wherein Europeans would have exclusive possession of their “homelands”. They also promoted the concept of “metapolitics”, hoping to effect political change by seeding ideas and achieving cultural dominance. They were also anticapitalist. They share significant common ground with coat-and-tie white nationalists in the US and elsewhere. Political scientists such as Walter Laqueur described the ND as fascist.

    Indentitarianism in its modern incarnation began in the early 2000s, when Génération Identitaire formed as the youth wing of Bloc Identitaire in France...

    Let me put it this way: I have conservative/ liberal/socialist friends, and even one or two communist friends, although I'm not communist. The far right makes me vomit.
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    Default Re: Franco's Mausoleum upsets Spain, again.

    Ah yes, me calling SS diverse was totally not me being sarcastic and just making a joke over the silly "diversity" term. Stalin and Lenin being worse is true - ask Solzhenitsyn.
    De Gaulle was a French nationalist and Identitarian. That's why he opposed Germany in 1940s, for the same reason he'd oppose globalistoid EU today. After all, globalism today is what Nazism was in 1940s.
    As for the rest, I already explained why "what would be" scenario about Republican side of Spanish civil war is irrelevant. The fact that Stalinists easily took over their leadership and USSR was effectively controlling them proves my point.
    The question we should be asking is why are modern Spanish leftists so approving of would-be regime that would likely kill them? The guys they are rooting for would have had them shot without trial.

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