Campidoctor
Re: Crucible of Kings
Ritter-Floh on the team, eh?Does this mean that its possible to see the amazing DeI 'barbarian' charging animations added to this mod for the more brutish factions?I know it's early, but PLEASE!!!
Also, I'm loving the name. Very distinctive. The name also pulls up this thread at the very top of a Google search. I'm digging the graphic, too. Reminds me of the main graphic for Game of Thrones Season 2.
Last edited by Dead*Man*Wilson; May 07, 2018 at 12:38 PM.
Artifex
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Congrats Dresden and team!
Soon or later I'll have to throw away some bucks for this game so...
Überrock über alles
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It took Dresden and I a solid hour to come up with it. You should see the whole convserastionOriginally Posted by Dead*Man*Wilson
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Last edited by 'Gunny; May 07, 2018 at 01:41 PM.
Campidoctor
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Voila! Haha, fun read. Thanks for sharing.
It fits very well with the them of the campaign and rolls off the tongue very well.
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Thanks. I worked on that graphic way too long yesterdayI am not an artist but I think it came out pretty well.
@DakkaDon Honestly I am not sold on having it be 12TPY yet for the reasons you gave. Having characters and dynasties mature and change is important in the game I think. I cant really decide 4 or 12
Centenarius
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I love 4 turn so much more, thanks!
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Re: Crucible of Kings
I think I am going to change the base mod to 4tpy - it just works better with this game I think.
Edit
Ok, updated the main mod to be 4tpy for now, see how that goes for awhile
The mod should now be compatible with other startpos mods like TPY mods, so if you want a 12TPY campaign just use the 12 TPY mod.
Semisalis
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So it begins... Very exciting to see your lot tackling Thrones!
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Haven't tride The mod yet (so it's now 12 TPY?) but playing the vanilla I got the feel that 8 TPY would be ideal for this game. If and when the team manages to slow down the campaign to good balance with dynasties and all.
Comes Rei Militaris
Re: Crucible of Kings
Its 4tpy right now but you can use the 12tpy mod with this. 8tpy normally makes seasons malfunction.
In other news I am working on an idea to add titles to governors, probably going to rename the governor position also. I wanted to use estates as titles but from what I can tell they arent moddable.
Tiro
Re: Crucible of Kings
Really enjoying the additional challenge so far. Food is very scarce at least in the early game and one wrong move can see a rebellion or an invading army take over your bread basket. I've lost a couple battles and my best general as Northumbrye because I had to commit too few forces in a desperate attempt to take down Westmorlingas before they rebuilt their armies and rebels took over the rest of the countryside. Now my son will have to try and hold whats left with a token force while the king goes off to face Northleode's army.
I assume it'll still get snowbally if I can ever get my kingdom off the ground. But so far a nice step up from the piss easy vanilla game
The garrisons are an especially nice touch and give the feeling of rallying together whatever peasants you can find to defend a village
Last edited by rockman4417; May 08, 2018 at 02:45 AM.
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Marry me Dresden, I'm going to quit my campaign and start a fresh one using Crucible!I think I am going to change the base mod to 4tpy - it just works better with this game I think.
Edit
Ok, updated the main mod to be 4tpy for now, see how that goes for awhile
The mod should now be compatible with other startpos mods like TPY mods, so if you want a 12TPY campaign just use the 12 TPY mod.Question is this compatible with Mauiaw's meaningful estates mod?
While I have your ear, here's some ideas I've been brainstorming with a few veteran friends who are annoyed at how easy the game gets. No idea if you'll like them but just a few I came up with.
Buildings need to be no exaggeration 10x more expensive once you move past tier 2, farms also need to be significantly less productive. Upkeep for garrison buildings should be much higher. Currently you snowball so quickly as a medium kingdom.
Winter should be way harsher on food, forcing you to disband units and rehire them in spring.
Corruption bonuses from Governors should be much lower, maybe max out at a 50% reduction instead of a 100% reduction. I'm usually making 40k a turn by around turn 100. Corruption reducing buildings should also be less effective.
Loyalty needs to be WAY more expensive to buy, and much harder to maintain.
Influence needs to be much harder to acquire, feasts need to be much more expensive.
Battles need to be much much harder on higher difficulties, is it possible to mod the bonuses from difficulty?
Bonuses from forges need to be much lower, they currently turn Fyrd into Beserker killers.
Invasion armies need to be armoured veterans, and come in greater numbers. Actually think it'd be cool if only one of the 3 invaded, but that they invaded in much greater strength (10 armies +). Be fun to actually fight a Norman kingdom that is a threat to Wessex, rather than an inconvenience.
Army upkeep needs to scale somehow. One idea I had is make army upkeep much higher, but increase the buffs that King and Heir give to upkeep reduction. That means your first two armies are only sightly pricier, but your lategame multi-army campaigns are WAY more expensive. Maybe do the same for food costs?
Ruler mortality needs to increase (subjective opinion here but this is my preference) I want to use at least 3 kings in a campaign, rather than follow one.
Once your loyalty reaches 2, you should have a % chance of rebellion. Maybe it's around 30% at Loyalty 1? A bit like the new public order system (which I actually quite like).
Estates should be much more beneficial to keep, and expensive to give out. Currently they're just loyalty machines.
Oh final point for discussion, War Fervor.
The mechanic is mental. It literally adds no value to a campaign. On VH it's just at its lowest setting for the first 70 turns, and then once you research the 2-per-turn tech it's infinite forever. Honestly I like ThroB despite the problems but that mechanic is the most laughably awful implementation of game design I can remember ever seeing in a TW game.
Maybe just remove it entirely? Or do you think it's salvageable?
Last edited by ♔Greek Strategos♔; July 26, 2019 at 09:33 AM. Reason: Merged posts.
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Malfunction how? Maybe worth an 8 tpy experiment with ToB?
THE BEARDED MACE
Re: Crucible of Kings
I'm crying...It took Dresden and I a solid hour to come up with it. You should see the whole convserastion
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Seasons aren't showing correctly with 8tpy.
Last edited by ♔Greek Strategos♔; May 08, 2018 at 11:37 AM.
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GREat to see the gang back together and can't wait to see what you do with the good skeleton of this game. Is there a difficulty this mod is tailored around? I think it's tough to talk balance and difficulty if we are using different difficulties.
Comes Rei Militaris
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Thanks for that list of suggestions, I will take a look at implementing them. I may make a "hardcore" version of this mod also at some point.
I have no idea to be honest. Probably Normal to start and Hard for veterans?
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- Lowered minor town garrison amounts at lower tier buildings. Garrisons now get larger as you upgrade.
- Fixed a vanilla bug where english garrisons were being assigned javelin units for both javelin and archer unit groups
I will work tonight on some new ideas. We will probably be removing the unit upgrade system for now until we can get our own rosters going. This will mean an overhaul a bit of the garrison system as well.
Überrock über alles
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Required viewing
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Re: Crucible of Kings
Updated
This is a big update
Also, for you roleplayers out there or anyone who just loves a bit more immersion, we have added a unique and pretty darn cool Vassals and Titles system. This will give titles to your various governors based on their culture and location. But, watch out! If they lose the title they will become a Claimant for it and be none too happy about it
Vassals & Titles System
- Governors are now Vassals and gain titles from ruling a province.
- These titles are different for each culture type and location.
- When a governor loses his province, he becomes a Claimant for the title. If he regains it, he will regain the title.
- For now, its there for RP value but we may add effects to the titles or alter the loyalty system to take them more into account.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Battle Changes
- Current battle changes are in alpha stages. They are aimed at making things slower and more tactical/realistic. Feedback is appreciated.
- Custom battle rosters have been edited to make factions a bit more unique. We haven't done campaign rosters yet.
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