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    Default TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated:10.05.2018

    Greetings TWC members!

    Continuing the legacy: Here it is: the 6th iteration of TWC exclusive Total War benchmarking thread.

    This thread is not a hardware advice thread but will give you a clear idea, which hardware will give you a certain level of playability at the graphical presets in Tota War Saga: Britannia, defined by CA.
    With the help of this thread you will get an idea of what you get and what you can expect for your bucks when it comes to hardware and performance in this next Warhammer title.

    Reminder: It is not a thread for hardware advice. If you are looking for this I would like to pass you on to more specific thread by HigoChumbo over here (for WH 1 /2).


    So why benchmarking games instead just playing them?
    Some think benchmarking is no good but for some few those enjoy putting all their eggs (not guts) in one basket or simply showing off other people .
    This can be the case but nevertheless this thread should not be considered to be a place for nerds only, having the most potent hardware around, but should be also a place for all others having weaker and more common hardware setups. Also their results are much more important, because they are quite the majority of common of Total War players.

    That said: Benchmarking can be fun for everyone regardless the hardware setup you have, to compare your individual performance to others and often enough find improvements.

    Here are some benchmark threads that I hosted and many people contributed with passion to provide their results:


    Total War Center - Total War benchmark thread anthology:

    Warhammer II

    Warhammer I

    Attila

    Rome 2 (post #10)

    Shogun 2 (post #5 and #6)


    As always I will try to find the easiest way possible for everyone to participate so it shall and hopefully will not fail just because you aren't a computer expert.

    Have a look at this thread again in a couple of days for detailed instructions. If you are willing to participate or interested into the results don't forget to subscribe.

    thread changelog:
    05/10/2018 results added of user: revan.be, nizam, updated driver section
    05/04/2018 results added of user: alQamar
    05/04/2018 initial post, benchmark announcement for TW Saga Britannia
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    Prior to start bothering with the benchmarking process make sure to update your drivers:

    The links will redirect you on a german site but the drivers are multilanguage:

    AMD drivers for GPUs:
    models:

    HD 7700 to R9/RX Series,
    HD 7700M to R9 M (Mobility / Notebooks)
    A-Series APUs (CPU integrated GPUs)
    Pro Duo

    https://www.computerbase.de/download...imson-edition/
    Current version: 18.4.1 (30th April 2018)

    models:
    HD 5000 – HD 7600 Series
    HD 5000M/6000M (Mobility)

    https://www.computerbase.de/download...imson-edition/
    Current version: 16.2.1 (1th March 2016)


    AMD CPU / Chipset drivers:
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...ipsatztreiber/
    Current version: 18.10.418 (19th April 2018)



    Nvidia drivers for GPUs:

    Geforce 600-700/900 series, Geforce 10xx series (Desktop); Geforce 600-900M, MX100 series (Notebooks)
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...force-treiber/
    Current version: 391.64 (09th May 2018)

    Geforce 400-500 (Desktop); Geforce 400-500M series (Notebooks)
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...force-treiber/
    Current version: 391.35 (27th March 2018)

    8 + 9/100 – 300 Series
    8M + 9M/100M – 300M
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...force-treiber/
    Current version: 342.01 (14th December 2016)




    Intel drivers for iGPUs (CPU integrated GPUs):

    7-8th Gen 24.20.100.6025 (30th March 2018)https://www.computerbase.de/download...grafiktreiber/4-5th Gen 20.19.15.4963 (05th May 2018)
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...grafiktreiber/

    3th Gen 10.18.10.4885 (05th January 2018)
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...grafiktreiber/

    Explanations:
    2nd Gen - Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs
    3rd Gen - Intel Ivy Bridge CPUs
    4th Gen - Intel Haswell CPUs
    5th Gen - Intel Broadwell CPUs
    6th Gen - Intel Skylake CPUs
    7th Gen - Kaby Lake CPUs
    8th Gen - Coffee Lake / Kaby Lake refresh CPUs

    Intel CPU / Chipset drivers:
    https://www.computerbase.de/download...ipsatztreiber/
    Current version: 10.1.1.42 (20th January 2017)

    It is important to update chipset and GPU drivers for optimal performance.




    How to benchmark properly:

    0. Before you begin: Check / Update your drivers (see above)

    1. General rules before benchmarking:
    - only use the given presets, do not alter the settings manually to make the results comparative! Do not use the "optimal settings" for the benchmark either!


    - Warhammer doesn't save any log files - again- for the benchmarking process. If you got a "downgrade message" due to insufficient video memory please do not submit this results as it is not comparable - it has individual downgrades
    Instead pick the next lower preset. Only use unlimited video memory if you use an inbuild on die CPU like AMD Axxx CPU, Intel HDxxxx etc.

    - You do not need to run all presets if your machine is not capable enough (3-4 GB VRAM needed for extreme quality or manually maxed out quality).
    It would be helpful enough if you can submit at least one preset where no "downgrade massage" message appeared. Refer above.

    - never use unlimited memory options if you have a laptop card or discrete card in your PC.

    - keep your Windows updated, including the so-called "optional" updates, they contain non security related but needed updates, you need to enable them in the Windows Update settings.

    - "in-game" benchmarks are fine, but won't be included in the results table as they aren't entirely reproducible.

    - please note that modern hardware is very much temperature limited. many processors (CPUs) or graphics cards (GPUs) will throttle performance over time. I know this is actually hard to deal with to keep the results objective.




    2. How to obtain, use and submit cpu-z.txt results
    - results without CPU-Z logs won't be included in the original post
    - Download CPU-Z. CPU-Z is free and available here: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
    - Install CPU-Z. It does not contain any adware or malware.
    - To create a cpu-z.txt file open CPU-Z > open the "About" Tab > Save Report (TXT) > Save the file where you like and can find it later.

    - How to enclose the a cpu-z.txt logfile in your post:

    There are several options for that:
    a. use a cloud / uploading service like Onedrive etc / In Windows 10 1703 or later press Windows Key + G This toolbar also helps you to make screenshots in DX11 AND DX12, aswell as offer easy direct renaming of files, by clicking on the flyout notification.
    b. use TWC attach file feature
    c. use pastebin.com (no account required)
    d. write me an e-mail with the logfile attached to: twcbenchmarks@chynet.de, don't forget to include your forum name please.



    3. Temporarily needed system changes:

    - set Windows Energy settings to "performance" to avoid a temporary downclocking of your CPU / RAM

    - temporarily disable all unneccerary processes and (system tray) applications, especially webbrowsers like chrome and Antivirus programs like Windows Defender in Windows 8.1 / 10 or Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 7.
    - in Windows 10 1703 or later > Press Windows Key + G: Enable Game Mode.



    4. Rules how to post your results:

    When submitting a benchmark result, please state the following:
    - minimum FPS
    - maximum FPS
    - average FPS (at least)
    - include a cpu-z.txt log, refer above
    - name the preset in use
    - don't forget to include your in-game resolution
    - if you use Windows 10 determine the build number by entering "winver" in the search bar




    5. How to post results (template):
    - NEW style - As technology evolves so there are a lot more "standard resolutions" out there according to Steam stats. It doesn't make much sense ot gather them all but for sure 1080p and 4k should be contained in the testbed if possible. I hope this new format will be far better readable with many results listed.



    Screen resolution: 1920x1080
    SLI: no / yes
    ---
    maxed out settings (refer screenshot for correct settings, needs at least 4 GB VRAM), optional for high end computers and / or experienced users
    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    Extreme Preset:
    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    Ultra preset:
    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition


    High preset:
    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    Medium preset:

    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    Low preset:
    [min fps],[max fps],[avg fps] Intel Core i5 6600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Core Edition


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    technical details:
    GPU speeds: [if customized] GPU core, GPU memory - GPU-Z log would be helpful
    Mainboard: Asus Z170-I Pro Gaming
    RAM: 16 GB DDR4 RAM 2666 MHz CL13-15-15-34 2T@1.30 Volts
    Mode: DualChannel
    OS: Windows 10 15063.608


    CPU-Z logfile: http://pastebin.com/TjerBefX


    6. How to setup Maxed out settings - refer screenshot (work in progress)
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    PC results (single GPU):
    Resolution 1920x1080, latest drivers, DirectX11, NO SLI / CF

    maxed out settings:
    min 17, max 31, avg 26,2, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    extreme settings:
    min 27, max 44, avg 38,4, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition


    ultra preset:
    min 41, max 71, avg 60,2, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition
    min 21, max 56, avg 40,5, User: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz , ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC

    high preset:
    min 61, max 136, avg 90,8, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition
    min 24, max 78, avg 51,1, User: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz, ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC
    medium preset:
    min 78, max 173, avg 114,5, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition
    min 27, max 92, avg 67,2, User: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz, ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC

    low preset:
    min 108, max 246, avg 188,3, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition
    min 46, max 162, avg 116,8, User: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz , ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC

    technical details:
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    username: alQamar
    GPU speeds: stock
    Mainboard: Asus Z270M-Plus
    BIOS: 1002
    Spectre / Meltdown HW / SW Protection: enabled
    RAM: 16 GB DDR4 RAM 2666 MHz CL16-18-18-35 2T@1.30 Volts
    Mode: DualChannel
    OS: Windows 10 pro 1803 17134.48
    Driver: Nvidia 397.64


    username: nizam
    GPU speeds: stock
    Mainboard: Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
    BIOS: FH
    Spectre / Meltdown HW / SW Protection: not present
    RAM: 6 GB DDR3 RAM 1333 MHz CL7-7-7-20 1T@1.60 Volts
    Mode: TripleChannel
    OS: Windows 10 pro 1803 17134.48
    Driver: Nvidia 397.64




    Last edited by alQamar; May 10, 2018 at 02:30 PM.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    PC results (single GPU):
    Resolution 2560x1080, latest drivers, DirectX11, NO SLI / CF

    maxed out settings:
    min 29, max 45, avg 38,2, User: revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 12, max 23, avg 19.5, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    extreme preset:
    min 44, max 66, avg 60,6, revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 20, max 34, avg 29,6, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    ultra preset:
    min 43, max 110, avg 76,4,User: revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 34, max 56, avg 48,4, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    high preset:
    min 56, max 157, avg 94,5, User: revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 56, max 108, avg 79,0, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    medium preset:
    min 77, max 177, avg 121,8, User: revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 61, max 138, avg 99,2, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    low preset:
    min 114, max 315, avg 218,2, User: revan.be, Intel Core i7 6600K, 4.4 GHz, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition
    min 91, max 200, avg 153,4, User: alQamar, Intel Core i7 7600K, 4.6 GHz, Zotac GTX 970 AMP! Extreme Core Edition

    technical details:
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    username: alQamar
    GPU speeds: stock
    Mainboard: Asus Z270M-Plus
    BIOS: 1002
    Spectre / Meltdown HW / SW Protection: enabled
    RAM: 16 GB DDR4 RAM 2666 MHz CL16-18-18-35 2T@1.30 Volts
    Mode: DualChannel
    OS: Windows 10 pro 1803 17134.48
    Driver: Nvidia 397.64

    username: revan.e
    GPU speeds: stock
    Mainboard: Z170I Pro Gaming
    BIOS: 3016
    Spectre / Meltdown HW / SW Protection: enabled
    RAM: 16 GB DDR4 RAM 2666 MHz CL13-15-15-39 2T@1.35 Volts
    Mode: DualChannel
    OS: Windows 10 pro 1803 17134.48
    Driver: Nvidia 397.64


    Last edited by alQamar; May 10, 2018 at 12:13 PM.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    I like to check benches and the Tech-Performance side of any new release. Can't wait to see how my clocked i7-7700K (5GHz) 1080ti (2037MHz stable) will run this on 1440p.
    Thank you for this thread @alQamar

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    So am guessing a mix of ultra/high best. Extreme seems a bit low. @above (Gstrategos) that would be interesting to see...

    I guess you cant just download the benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totalheadache View Post
    So am guessing a mix of ultra/high best. Extreme seems a bit low. @above (Gstrategos) that would be interesting to see...

    I guess you cant just download the benchmark.
    Yeah. I reckon that extreme is mostly for screenshots.

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    Hi guys,
    thanks for the likes. The WH, especially WH2, threads were nearly dead.

    @Totalheadache nice to meet you again. Have been a long time. What do you mean by downloading the benchmark? Can you obtain it separately?

    Are there any questions about the benchmarking process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Hi guys,
    Are there any questions about the benchmarking process?
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    If I had the game, I would happily benchmark it.

    Have you upgraded your computer recently?

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    alQamar you are a hero

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    Quote Originally Posted by IamOdysseus View Post

    Have you upgraded your computer recently?
    Hi Odysseus, who are you asking?

    Thanks Nizam, if you have the game I would be amazed to see your results. Let me know if you need help with this.

    I think especially your mid class system might be interesting for the readers.

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    Quote Originally Posted by IamOdysseus View Post
    Have you upgraded your computer recently?
    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Hi Odysseus, who are you asking?
    If he was referencing to me, I usually upgrade my pc almost every year.

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    greek can you also do benchmarks in 1080p just as a reference.
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    added results: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz , ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC
    Ultra and extreme settings caused vram limit automatic settings degradation, thus the results were not published
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated: 04.05.2018

    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    greek can you also do benchmarks in 1080p just as a reference.
    Sure no problem mate. I'll try to do it during the weekend, hopefully. I haven't even checked our Crucible Kings mod.
    Too much work and not much time to do it atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    added results: nizam, Intel Core i7-950, 3,2 GHz , ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB OC
    Ultra and extreme settings caused vram limit automatic settings degradation, thus the results were not published
    That's interesting - I dont think I've ever seen the game use more thab 3gb even on 1440p, sounds like the automatic degradation might be on the conservative side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pathstrider View Post
    That's interesting - I dont think I've ever seen the game use more thab 3gb even on 1440p, sounds like the automatic degradation might be on the conservative side.
    I cannot prove or disprove this except it was very strange that both results of maxed out settings and extreme settings showed nearly identical results even close to my figures, which is, compared in the other presets highly unlikely.

    I have double checked everything with the user via Teamviewer. Might have had a look into the gfx.log, if still in use, sorry.

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated:10.05.2018

    alQamar
    Still haven't found the time for benching or even playing the game more than a few minutes. Crazy month.
    I haven't forgotten your thread though.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Saga Britannia benchmark thread - last updated:10.05.2018

    No problem. Looking forward to any results coming in. I will try to get some more results from other users when I find time, too.

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