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    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    Actually none of them make that claim. They suggest that unexplained disparities may be attributed to discrimination.
    I have a few anecdotal experiences that support the gender/pay theory, but I know of only a few studies and the matter is extremely complex.

    I come from a legal family and from what I see in Australian law gender matters, as the individual lawyers "gravitas" influences judges decisions, standing and likelyhood of advancement (concrete and "sociopolitical"/ingroup/boys club). Female lawyers have less gravitas, plain and simple. The profession is skewed to wealth, age and conservatism, and the even the left wing tends to paternal and Fabian rather than radical. Female lawyers who are granted positions of authority or rank (eg SC/QC or magistracies) are marked out for private mockery and excluded from subtle but significant clubs, rankings etc. There's stiull traces of "Old School ties" religious and University bias, University of Melbourne has lapsed its standards badly but is still by reputation the premier legal educator because [conservative chortling].

    Can't find the two studies ATM but when i was studying feminism (I had to take some non-history units and chose something out of my field) in the 1990's there were some comparative studies on similar industries to see if there was a gender/pay gap. Librarians (70% female) were compared to geologists (90+% male) who had similar levels of education, budgets and assets under their control etc) on the theory they were comparatively specialised groups numerous enough to make reasonable comparisons (there's a ****load of geologists in this country, we are basically a large mine). The other one was nurses to some other field, I forget which, not doctors, something with a similar spread of education/qualigfication requirements and repsonibilities.

    IIRC the pay gaps were significant even when adjusted for "lifestyle" eg having children. Having children interrupts seniority progression which is a fairly wildly accepted concept in this country, but alternative systems like ongoing training/relevant experience are also interrupted by having children. The nurses pay gap was influenced by the vocational ethic in the industry which meant they have only ever gone on strike properly once ever. Typically Australian wage negotiations can be influenced by walk outs etc, even in fairly educated fields like Geology (if you strike it shows you'e serious, but also sometimes Union Officials and bosses work out the wages lost during a strike period will cover a bonus payment so a deal is done to get a zero cost win for the Union), but the nurses only ever imposed the mildest of work bans because of some Florence Nightingale myth and the hospital administrators had used them like peasants because of this.

    Is this a voluntary wage cut accepted by women? Is it wage structures favouring coded "male" behaviour financially (not getting pregnant and not giving a rats about walking out the door to strike)? The arguments around both the cases did lead to some improvements (but the nurses had the go on strike, just the once, and the fallout led to bitter acrimony in the union) and ultimately the arbitration system in Victoria accepted the argument about librarians too IIRC, so our system recognises that women have been penalised for their gender and makes redress.
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    There's no such thing as white privilege.

    The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history.

    There is no better place in the world to be non-white or female than western Europe and North America.

    There are two genders.

    Communism and Marxism have failed in every conceivable way in every nation they have ever been attempted.

    There is no gender pay gap.

    These are not my opinions. These are facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    There's no such thing as white privilege.

    The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history.

    There is no better place in the world to be non-white or female than western Europe and North America.

    There are two genders.

    Communism and Marxism have failed in every conceivable way in every nation they have ever been attempted.

    There is no gender pay gap.

    These are not my opinions. These are facts.
    *clears throat*

    That's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist, that's homophobic, that's misogynistic, that's ignorant.

    Now that I've gotten all the traditional liberal arguments out of the way, all I have left to say is +rep to you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history.
    Yep. Still haven't got rid of racism, though. It's generally easier being white in Western societies than being non-white, a lot of people simply don't like non-white people and will try to not give them certain jobs, not rent out flats to them, not talk to them at parties/networking events or sometimes just make assumptions about them that make it harder for them to get on in life. Some people openly admit to not hiring people with 'foreign names' when they see them on a CV. It's all too common unfortunately although nowhere near as bad as it was 50 years ago or even 30 years ago.

    There is no better place in the world to be non-white or female than western Europe and North America.
    That's crazy! Obviously it's better to be black in Africa than in a European/North American country, and it's also much better to be white in most countries than it is to be non-white in majority white countries.

    There are two genders.
    Objectively false.

    Communism and Marxism have failed in every conceivable way in every nation they have ever been attempted.
    Democratic Socialism has created the wealthiest and happiest societies with the least inequality in human history. Cuba has higher rates of education and health than many developed Capitalist countries.

    There is no gender pay gap.
    Also objectively false.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history..
    Only very recently and independently, each nation having been compelled to pass laws to curb the behaviour of its worst citizens. Any nations in history apart from South Africa that would devise something as destructive as Jim Crow laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    .There is no gender pay gap
    Tell that to the BBC's staff.

    Otherwise as Copperknickers says.
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    I'm saddened my post from the last page is being ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Only very recently and independently, each nation having been compelled to pass laws to curb the behaviour of its worst citizens. Any nations in history apart from South Africa that would devise something as destructive as Jim Crow laws?
    Australia didn't recognise Aboriginals as people/include them on the census until the 1967 referendum. 'Murica isn't alone in it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Commissar Caligula_ View Post
    Australia didn't recognise Aboriginals as people/include them on the census until the 1967 referendum. 'Murica isn't alone in it.
    Indeed. South Africa was honest about their entrenched racism, there's many just as bad as they were.

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    ...
    These are not my opinions. These are facts.
    ...and that's your opinion .

    Fancy living in such a doubt free universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commissar Caligula_ View Post
    Australia didn't recognise Aboriginals as people/include them on the census until the 1967 referendum. 'Murica isn't alone in it.
    Indeed. There was also a racist policy of putting mixed-race children into care under laws devised by the Australian Federal and State governments.That went on until the 70s.

    I think, Holocaust aside, that the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, which was only closed down in 1972 (due to whistle blowing) sums up attitudes prior to the introduction of Civil Rights. It was appear that up to that time , that most ancient and widely accepted ethical principles, the Hippocratic Oath simply did not apply to the medical treatment of African Americans. I cannot fathom what goes on in the minds of people who behave like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Indeed. South Africa was honest about their entrenched racism, there's many just as bad as they were.
    Absolutely right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    Yep. Still haven't got rid of racism, though.
    There are always going to be racist individuals. You can't eradicate human nature with laws. But you're right, we still haven't gotten rid of racism. For example, not long ago in Britain, a white woman was taking her baby for a walk when a Muslim spit in the baby's face and told the mother "white people shouldn't breed". I agree with you that racism exists in the west. It's still the best place on earth to live, no matter your race.

    It's generally easier being white in Western societies than being non-white, a lot of people simply don't like non-white people and will try to not give them certain jobs, not rent out flats to them, not talk to them at parties/networking events or sometimes just make assumptions about them that make it harder for them to get on in life. Some people openly admit to not hiring people with 'foreign names' when they see them on a CV. It's all too common unfortunately although nowhere near as bad as it was 50 years ago or even 30 years ago.
    You're talking about isolated incidents so rare that they shock people when they happen. Western Europe and North America are still the most tolerant and best and safest places in the world for non-white people to live.


    That's crazy! Obviously it's better to be black in Africa than in a European/North American country
    Disagree. And all the black Africans coming to western Europe disagree too.

    and it's also much better to be white in most countries than it is to be non-white in majority white countries.
    Disagree. Being non-white in a "white country" is the best possible scenario you can hope for. Western Europe and North America are the best places on earth for human beings to live, regardless of their race, gender or religion.

    Objectively false.
    Name any gender that isn't male or female. Bear in mind that transgender simply means transitioning from male-female or from female-male and is not its own gender. Name one. Give me the name of a third gender and tell me what chromosomes and sexual organs they are born with.

    Democratic Socialism has created the wealthiest and happiest societies with the least inequality in human history.
    You mean Cuba has the least inequality in South America. You have to compare Cuba to South America (which mostly consists of failed and semi-failed states) to get these kinds of Communist propaganda statistics.

    Cuba has higher rates of education and health than many developed Capitalist countries.
    Yes, their entire population is educated (in a school system with very poor standards) and has access to healthcare (that's very poor and very basic compared to western nations).

    Also objectively false.
    There's a gender earnings gap. Women generally earn less than men on the whole because of the life choices they make. It is literally illegal for employers to pay women less than men for the same work & same hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    Only very recently and independently, each nation having been compelled to pass laws to curb the behaviour of its worst citizens.
    Western Europe and North America are still the best places on earth for non-white people to live.

    Any nations in history apart from South Africa that would devise something as destructive as Jim Crow laws?
    It's a failed state and it's not in western Europe or North America.

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    Tell that to the BBC's staff.
    I did. I actually emailed the BBC a few weeks ago. Presenters who are more popular and who attract a larger audience are naturally paid more than third-rate presenters barely anybody has heard of.

    The BBC was investigated and it was found that no gender pay gap existed - the most talented people were being paid more than the less talented people, regardless of gender.

    There is no gender pay gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    There are always going to be racist individuals. You can't eradicate human nature with laws.
    No. But a great man, whose words you may recognise, once said: "The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history." How do you think they did that? A lot of laws are in place now that were not in place 50 years ago.

    But you're right, we still haven't gotten rid of racism. For example, not long ago in Britain, a white woman was taking her baby for a walk when a Muslim spit in the baby's face and told the mother "white people shouldn't breed".
    And on the same day, there were probably about 100 instances of racism against Muslims just in that same town/city. Nobody said it wasn't a two-way problem, but by the nature of non-whites being a minority the problem tends to go in one direction moreso than the other.

    You're talking about isolated incidents so rare that they shock people when they happen.
    I'm not unfortunately, racism is an everyday occurence in many parts of the UK and in integral part of the worldview of millions of Brits.

    Western Europe and North America are still the most tolerant and best and safest places in the world for non-white people to live.
    That's crazy, obviously black people for example are going to find more tolerance in Africa than they are in a majority white country.

    Name any gender that isn't male or female. Bear in mind that transgender simply means transitioning from male-female or from female-male and is not its own gender.
    Transgender is considered a third gender in many countries, e.g. in India where the Hijra community has been recognised for over a thousand years. Their parallel in the Islamic world the Mukhannathun. Other genders include agender and non-binary/bigender. Gender is not a biological marker so it's not necessarily related to biological sex, but many transgender people are either hermaphrodites or eunuchs or have other non-standard genitalia, either by birth or by design.

    It is literally illegal for employers to pay women less than men for the same work & same hours.
    Still happens though. All the employer has to do is maintain opacity over who gets paid what, and they can get away with murder for years.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Here’s what the data show:


    • Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant. People in the survey were most likely to embrace a racially diverse neighbor in the United Kingdom and its Anglo former colonies (the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) and in Latin America.


    • India and Jordan by far the least tolerant. In only two of 81 surveyed countries, more than 40 percent of respondents said they would not want a neighbor of a different race. This included 43.5 percent of Indians and 51.4 percent of Jordanian. (Note: World Values’ data for Bangladesh and Hong Kong appear to have been inverted, with in fact only 28.3 and 26.8 percent, respectively, having indicated they would not want a neighbor of a different race. Please see correction at the bottom of this post.)

    • Wide, interesting variation across Europe. Immigration and national identity are big, touchy issues in much of Europe, where racial make-ups are changing. Though you might expect the richer, better-educated Western European nations to be more tolerant than those in Eastern Europe, that's not exactly the case. France appeared to be one of the least racially tolerant countries on the continent, with 22.7 percent saying they didn't want a neighbor of another race. Former Soviet states such as Belarus and Latvia scored as more tolerant than much of Europe. Many in the Balkans, perhaps after years of ethnicity-tinged wars, expressed lower racial tolerance.


    • The Middle East not so tolerant. Immigration is also a big issue in this region, particularly in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, which often absorb economic migrants from poorer neighbors.
    Really makes you think.

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    Difference in payback exists because women flee from Engineering, and some of the highest paid professions happen to be things such as Petroleum Engineering, where you go work in Oil Rigs.

    The women who join such professions suceed, but most of them don't even try. I've been in Engineering university for 2 years, women were so rare they were almost a mythological being. They don't even try to enter such professions, that often catapult you to high-salary quality of life.

    Statistics show that women don't even try a shot at high paying professions like Petroleoum Engineering. It's not sexism if they don't even apply to enter.

    It's their choice to forfeit high paying opportunities.

    And then they will blame men.. Because someone has to be responsible for the bad choices not done by men.
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    It beggars my belief when people say 'we aren't tolerant enough'

    That's crazy, obviously black people for example are going to find more tolerance in Africa than they are in a majority white country.
    Africa is tolerant?

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    As Dr Legend said, Europe and North America are some of the most tolerant places on Earth.
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    Western Europe and North America are still the best places on earth for non-white people to live.
    Maybe not for East-Asians, but for Africans, sure.


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    A veritable parade of strawmen in this thread. Nobody said that non-Western countries are tolerant paradises, but just because the West is better than the rest doesn't mean it doesn't still have unacceptable problems.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    A veritable parade of strawmen in this thread. Nobody said that non-Western countries are tolerant paradises, but just because the West is better than the rest doesn't mean it doesn't still have unacceptable problems.
    Claiming that "obviously black people for example are going to find more tolerance in Africa than they are in a majority white country" is not synonymous with asserting that "Nobody said that non-Western countries are tolerant paradises, but just because the West is better than the rest doesn't mean it doesn't still have unacceptable problems." These are two entirely different arguments.



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    No. But a great man, whose words you may recognise, once said: "The western world have created the least racist societies in the entirety of human history." How do you think they did that? A lot of laws are in place now that were not in place 50 years ago.
    Social evolution. Something that much of the rest of the world still hasn't acheived. However, as western Europe and North America are now importing tens of millions of non-western-culture immigrants, all of this progress will disappear over the next 5 decades. Muslims and Africans - the majority of immigrants in Europe and North America - are generally not tolerant people, and they are not integrating. Therefore in +/- 5 decades Europe and America WILL be as racist and intolerant as some people in this thread want you to believe it already it.

    And on the same day, there were probably about 100 instances of racism against Muslims just in that same town/city. Nobody said it wasn't a two-way problem, but by the nature of non-whites being a minority the problem tends to go in one direction moreso than the other.
    Doubt it. White people in the UK only have to look at a non-white person the wrong way and they're in court for hate crimes. That's why Muslim gangs are allowed to gang rape 13-year old girls for 4 decades with the full knowledge of the local police and government authorities and only be jailed for a handful of years each.



    I'm not unfortunately, racism is an everyday occurence in many parts of the UK and in integral part of the worldview of millions of Brits.
    I'm British. I was born here and have lived here all my life. You're wrong.

    That's crazy, obviously black people for example are going to find more tolerance in Africa than they are in a majority white country.
    Nope. Nowhere in Africa can a black person walk into a government office and, 1 hour later, walk out of said government office with a free house, welfare and healthcare for life. They're treated way better in western Europe, it's why we're being flooded with immigrants from Africa. Same goes for the Middle East. I have witnessed, with my own two eyes, a black man assault a white man for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and 5 minutes later the white man who was assaulted hauled off in a police car on suspicion of racial abuse and the black man told to walk away. I have witnessed this with my own eyes. Black people in western Europe enjoy tolerance and government favour unprecedented on this whole earth.

    Transgender is considered a third gender in many countries
    I don't care what people "consider", I care about cold, hard, biological facts.

    Other genders include agender and non-binary/bigender.
    An agender person is either a man or a woman. A non-binary/bigender person is either a man or a woman. These are not genders, they're states of mind. The fact that you believe this depresses me, but my gender is not "depressed". See what I mean?

    Gender is not a biological marker
    It is on planet earth.

    so it's not necessarily related to biological sex
    It is on planet earth.

    but many transgender people are either hermaphrodites
    This is a physical defect, not a gender.

    or eunuchs
    Mutilation is not a gender.



    Still happens though.
    All the employer has to do is maintain opacity over who gets paid what, and they can get away with murder for years.
    You just listed a bunch of stories that can all be answered the same way.

    "You failed to negotiate more pay when you were hired"

    -or-

    "You were being paid less because you were less experienced and hadn't been with the BBC for as long as the man who was being paid more than you, therefore you lacked seniority"

    -or-

    That male radio host who gets paid more than you has a daily audience of 5 million listeners, whereas you only have a daily audience of 1 million listeners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Damian View Post
    Social evolution. Something that much of the rest of the world still hasn't acheived.
    A combination of cultural change and legal change.

    Doubt it. White people in the UK only have to look at a non-white person the wrong way and they're in court for hate crimes. That's why Muslim gangs are allowed to gang rape 13-year old girls for 4 decades with the full knowledge of the local police and government authorities and only be jailed for a handful of years each.
    Muslim gangs, and celebrities, and politicians, and teachers, and priests ... The reason any number of groups were allowed to abuse children is because of the general culture of silence when it comes to men in positions of power. The Muslim gangs were just a small part of the widespread problem of sexual abuse of minors. In the case of those gangs, the race of the perpetrators was not actually the main issue: the main issue was the social class of the victims, not the perpetrators. The police simply refused to believe their eyes and ears because the victims were seen as 'chavs' who brought it on themselves. If there were a general problem within the police of not wishing to prosecute Muslim criminals because of their race, why is it that Muslims are so overrepresented in prisons? Muslims in general are more likely to be targeted by police, not less.


    I'm British. I was born here and have lived here all my life. You're wrong.
    You're telling me that racism is not widespread within British society? There are only three reasons why you would say that:

    1. You don't think non-violent racism is wrong and so you are willfully blind to it.
    2. You grew up in an incredibly cosmopolitan environment with an incredibly liberal family. I've met people who did not view the UK as a racist country, they were all from big cities. Out in small towns and rural areas racism is a daily occurence, I've seen it more times than I can count.
    3. You are lying.

    Which is it?

    Nope. Nowhere in Africa can a black person walk into a government office and, 1 hour later, walk out of said government office with a free house, welfare and healthcare for life. They're treated way better in western Europe, it's why we're being flooded with immigrants from Africa. Same goes for the Middle East.
    What is the relevance of that? We were talking about racism not welfare systems. Obviously most Africans would be economically and materially better off in Europe, please stop with the strawmen! The argument was that black people suffer racism in European countries which they would not suffer in a black majority country, and which white people do not suffer in white majority countries. Being black in a white majority country is a disadvantage that no white person in Europe or African in Africa or even white person in Africa (with the exception of Zimbabwe and South Africa perhaps) can understand.

    I have witnessed, with my own two eyes, a black man assault a white man for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and 5 minutes later the white man who was assaulted hauled off in a police car on suspicion of racial abuse and the black man told to walk away. I have witnessed this with my own eyes.
    That's dreadful if true. But it is up against many dozens of cases of the exact opposite happening: abuse of non-white people by white people with zero consequences for the perpetrators, often because of the racism of police officers. Here's one of the more egregious examples. That's if I do you the service of treating your uncorroborated eyewitness account as a real and accurate portrayal of a genuine event. A service which you did not afford to me, when I told you of the numerous instances of racism I've witnessed with MY own two eyes, including serious assault.

    An agender person is either a man or a woman. A non-binary/bigender person is either a man or a woman. These are not genders, they're states of mind.
    If you are so concerned with objective facts, then you might want to consider the objective fact that the word gender has ALWAYS referred to not two but three culturally-defined categories that did not necessarily bear any relation to the realities of human biology. I can prove this very simply: the word 'gender' is derived from the Latin word 'genus' via the Old French 'gendre', which simply means 'type', and has no relation to human biology. The link to the English conception of 'gender' is that 'genus' was used with reference to what in English is called 'grammatical gender', but what in Latin was actually called 'grammatical type'. As such there was literally never a time when it referred solely to the two categories 'male' and 'female', either in Latin, French or English, because its use in the context of male and female arose from its use in the description of grammatical gender, which of course included not only masculine and feminine but also the third gender, neuter. Indeed, the word 'gendre' in Old French became modern French 'genre', which literally means 'type' or 'class' and so even in French it has no relation to biological sex whatsoever, which in French would be 'sexe'.

    Furthermore, the reason the word 'gender' became associated with male and female in English was because of the concept of grammatical gender as I say, however the grammatical genders in addition to neuter were masculine, feminine, NOT the same thing as 'male' and 'female'. Un pont [a bridge] is an inanimate object and thus not male, although gramatically masculine. The neuter gender was often used in Latin in relation to human beings, and for that matter the feminine gender was used for male humans and vice versa, so there was no real relation between biological sex and grammatical gender, hence why it was called 'genus' (type) and not 'sexus' (sex/gender in the English sense). This idea of gender referring to sex was due to the decline of bilingualism in French and English in late medieval England. Nevertheless, it was still used frequently of grammatical gender and so there was never a time when it didn't include the third gender, since educated English speakers would always have had to study Latin and thus would not have dreamt of equating gender and sex as direct synonyms (although of course the idea of biological sex being clear cut between male and female is itself rather debateable).

    "You failed to negotiate more pay when you were hired"
    If it's illegal to pay men more than women then negotiation doesn't come into it. There is hardly an exemption in the law to allow for men's greater negotiating skills. Legally speaking if a woman gets a role and negotiates a wage of, say, £50,000, then if a male colleague subsequently gets promoted to the same role and negotiates a wage of £55,000, the employer must raise the wage of the woman to the same amount. I'm not a lawyer mind you, but in the unlikely event somebody wants to contradict me on that, then you were wrong to say it's illegal for women to be paid less than men.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Default Re: Kids TV Show Teaches White Privilege to Primary School Children

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    https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/04...ge-propaganda/
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    This video made for an Australian kids show on ABC teaches children that anyone is white and male owes everything they have in life to privilege, and is 'undeserved'. Exposing children to racist propaganda should not be tolerated, unless you're okay with indoctrinating 5 and 6 year olds to be little marxists.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    They followed it up with this gem, where they decided that anyone who disagrees with them is an alt-right troll. How was this allowed to be aired on national television? To kids for god's sake!

    A Facebook page for an Australian kids show has deleted a video where it had a rap about the 'privilege bridge' in which it implied that all white men have advantages in society just for being white men, in a show directed at young children. Parents hit back, calling it 'training our children to be good little marxists' ABC responded in kind with a follow up video, called 'The Internet Song' in which it dismissed the complaints as 'alt-right trolls' who watch Rick and Morty and browse 4chan. Naturally, this'll has only exacerbated the issue.

    The same network has in the past called conservative candidates in Australia a '', and promoting an LGBT mardis gras to CHILDREN.

    Do check out the Facebook comments tho https://www.facebook.com/ABCCOMEDY/v...4124857973927/
    In American, at least, it is that kind of indoctrination in schools that has caused growing numbers of Americans to opt out of the public schools, and go for home schooling. I have friends who home school their kids for because of that kind of crap. Public schools are more interested in pushing a political agenda than in actually educating students, and you can see it reflected in the ignorance of American students on history, geography, math and science. When standardized SAT test scores declined, educators for a long time made up BS accuses, and finally the SAT scores renormalized, so as a result Menza will no longer accept SAT Scores for membership as they formally did.

    Personally, I think some educators don't want students properly educated, because they might think for themselves, and not reach the conclusion these educators want. It is no secret the NEA, the teacher's group, is among the left leaning unions in the US, far more than unions like the Teamsters. The NEA is among the major contributors to the Democratic Party. I the case of gender gap, it not pointed out that is are differences that can contribute to the pay differende between men and women. For example, I personnally know several family members and women coworkers who dropped stopped work to concentrate on raisint their family, while I don't know of a single male family member or coworker who did the same thing. If you drop out out of the out of home work force for a few years, it will, it not unfairly, affect your pay compared to a male coworker who has been working steadily for tthose same years.

    And fields that employ mostly women will incur cost that are not incurred by a primarily male work force. Most women sooner or later will become pregnant, and the cost of maternity leave and who will handle their work while the worker is out is something that employers don't have to worry about for male workers. . And pregnancy occurs when the worker is young, during their prime working years. Male dominate fields often iinvolve a lot more travel than ones involving women, construction workers, long distance truckers, even engineering will require a man to be more away from extended periods of time than a female teacher. Even in such fields as just working in retail store, the male employee often does more lifting of heavier objects in stocking than his female counterpart. Yet you can't mention any of those differences, even though they have real cost to the employers. Women find it perfectly to charge men more for car insurance, yet find it unfair for companies to potentially adjust women's pay to reflect potentially higher cost burden.

    I bring this up because sometimes these social justice issues are more complex than they are portrayed. For example, in the case of cop shootings, African Americans are about 4 times more likely to get shot by the cop than the white counterpart, but African Ametican men are also 4 times more likely to commit murder too - tone statistics are not unrelated. A cop going is more likely to be shot by an African American, and in the split second they have to make a threat analysis, it is logical to take that into account. An 80 year person in a wheel chair is less like to shoot a cop than a young black male , and so in the seconds that a cop needs to make an assessment, the cop is less likely to shoot the person in the wheel chair than the young male. (But such things do happen. I heard about Texas cop shooting a man in a wheel chair armed with a pen. And just last year in Galveston Texas a 6 ft off duty cop shot and killed small a white women because she was armed withthe a tiny stick, something like the slat from a venetian blind.) . While I think cop training in the US is wrong (I get the impression US cops are trained to the motto, "when in doubt, shoot "), it is not racist as portrayed. As many white persons are shot as blacks, just last year a black cop in the passenger seat shot and killed the white woman who had made the police call the cops were investigating. The woman was standing by the driver window. The cop shootings and these other issues that schools try to indoctrinate their students are more complex than the educators will lot on. If a kid raises a water pistol, it can look like a real gun in the plit second the cop has to decide whether he needs to shoot or not. I suspect tne cop will take a second or longer to decide if it is an old woman on crutches than if it is a young tall teenager holding tne same thing.

    (I remember in the Trayvon Martin shooting my niece was insisting Trayvon was shot because was wearing hood, when the real reason was Trayvon was physically shot because he was physically assualting Zimmer, and actually had Zimmer o the ground, Zimmer had cuts and bruises whicn supported Zimmer's story. Also Martin was a stranger in the neighborhood, he was only there staying with his father instrad of with his mother in his home in a different neighborhood because he had been expelled from school for reasons the school refused to say, assualting another student perhaps? My niece was clearly not informed by the school of any of these facts, only that Martin had gunned down because he was wearing a hoody . By the way, a black neighborhood watchman in New York state, Roderick Scott, shot and killed a white honor student and was also acquitted, Unlike Martin, the white student never touched the black neighgorhood watch man, and Scott fired multiple times, while Zimmer shot only once. To bd fair to Mr. Scott, the kid he shot was stealing from a car at the time. One of the biggest ironies of the Martin shooting is all the debate about Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' in association with the shooting. The law wasn't applicable to the Martin shooting, since it wasn't even applicable. Zimmer was on three ground with Martin on top of him, so he could not walk away. Any state law would have allowed Zimmer to be justified in shooting in self defense, since Zimmer had every reason to believe his life was threated when someone is pounding your head while they are on top of you. Of course, Zimmerman could have been lying, but the prosecutor didn't bring forth evidence to ddisprove, and the burden of proof is on the prosecutor, not the accused.)
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