Very interesting - wish I knew what it was so I could make / help make something related to it in time for its announcement.
Mithradatic wars. Then.
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And tomorrow you'll be on your way
Don't give a damn about what other people say
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KLA said someone was correct, so either Jewish revolt, Alexander, or Troy. I don't see why CA would go to Troy territory which requires a lot of historical research and I don't see these men as Macedonian nobles either, so Jewish revolt it is.
If that's the case, it's a pass from me again.
Imagine what type of warfare we will see, legions vs plebs/slaves?
I really hope they're Pontian. That would mean Southern Balkans and Anatolia are included with tons of historically interesting factions and events. But of course 99% that won't be the case. Who are we kidding?!
What I find particularly intriguing about the small amount of Campaign information they give us here is the phrasing:
"Barely" is not the same as "not at all." Which suggests whatever it is connect to, it's already in the game in some limited form. Which has me wondering about Alexander, the Diadochi War and Persia.Apart from the Free-LC, the historical new content team is also developing a campaign pack set in a specific location and time period. This particular combination of time and space has barely been touched by ROME II’s current content and comes with a very detailed new campaign map, brand new units, and factions familiar and new. There are also a number of new gameplay mechanics that aim to explore other ways of conducting total war in ROME II.
- Alexander doesn't appear in Rome 2 at all, but his actions set up much of the geopolitical situation and many of the factions in the Eastern half of the map.
- The Diadochi appear in the form of several factions, but there's no formal Diadochi War as such.
- Persia may qualify as "barely" being in Rome 2, as they're only a minor faction in the Grand Campaign, though they do appear as non-playable antagonists in Wrath of Sparta.
Then again, is that already too much of a part of the game to be "barely..."
I honestly don't know. But am looking forward to finding out.
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Why does KLA's comment have any more significance than any other forum goer? It seems to me he's no more likely to know than the rest of us, and his comment...
... looked to me like a typical "I think there's a lot of good ideas in this thread and one of them is right, but I can't/don't want to pick which one."
Or am I missing something?
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So, what we know about the campaign so far:
Official
• Fresh: CA want this campaign to have a more "fresh" take on their campaign formula.
• Possibly Eastern?: We have an event picture showing some character, who most of us are presuming to be Eastern due to their big beards (may not be the main faction of focus - they released art work of Tetricus (Gallic Empire) and Cannabaudes (Gothi) for Empire Divided when Aurelian was at the center of the time period it depicts - but it gives us an idea that it'll be a lot closer to the East than the previous focused campaign packs).
• Small-Scale: Campaign is focused in a specific location and time period, implying that it is similar in scale and scope to smaller campaigns such as Caesar in Gaul / Wrath of Sparta.
• New Mechanics: It is designed not just around the new, big gameplay mechanic which will be introduced to other campaigns, but will also offer other new gameplay mechanics specific to it (probably like Banditry / Cults / Sanitation for Empire Divided).
• Barely Touched: The location and time period is "barely touched" upon in the game, meaning that something related to it may already exist in some form already (e.g. location + factions + some units + time period).
Unofficial
• Not What Most Expect: It's completely different to what (most) people think it's going to be.
• We Already Know: Someone has already got the answer right somewhere on this thread (recently, or in the past few months - who knows).
• No Indians: It doesn't feature any Indians.
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Mithridatic Wars with a small map of east mediterrenean sea.
Factions: Rome, Pontus, Bithynia, Armeniam Kappadocia, Seleucid Empire, Hasmonaen Kingdom (Juda), Ptolemaic Kingdom.
New Mechanic: growing Piratesspam, if no Fleets are built?
Cause tomorrow is a brand-new day
And tomorrow you'll be on your way
Don't give a damn about what other people say
Because tomorrow is a brand-new day
I guess he's a beta-tester for the game. CA has been hiring a team of players with a deep knowledge of game mechanics since Rome II or even earlier. They do not work for CA, so Ashurbanipal's exceptional modding skills do not necessarily mean that the game will be beautiful. They are given the game freely, so that they can share their valuable feedback with the company. Of course, they are bound by contract (similarly to the moderators of the official fora) not to talk about the game before the release.
Anyway, I personally doubt it's Alexander, because CA's comments make me suspect of a smaller region than the entire Near and Middle East. It's definitely something ''oriental'', so I guess maybe the Mithridatic Wars, as the Maccabean revolt seems to niche. However, judging by Ashurbanipal's remarks, I suppose that the Great Jewish Revolt is the strongest candidate. The Achaemenid Persian Empire is probably too ambitious of a project for the resources CA is willing to dedicate to this otherwise relatively minor distractions.
Thank you both for the explanations. That makes a bit more sense, as at least I can see where you're coming from.
All the same, I think I'll stick to basing my speculation off the official announcements.
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A good round up, though like I said above I think it's better to stick to speculating based on what's been officially announced. But that's just me.
One thing I would say is that the campaign being "set in a specific location and time period" and that has a "very detailed new campaign map," to me doesn't necessarily mean it's small-scale. Could just be a more detailed map of a large specific location, like "Western Europe," or "China."
Of course if they are going for a small but very detailed area, that does open up a whole host of small scale conflicts, much like FOTS did the Boshin War.
Will be interesting to see what it is.
All the Best,
Welsh Dragon.
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It's unfortunately true and sad that a title considered a disappointment since release yet with a huge fan base due to its focus and period (and mods like DEI) gets projects that are minor distractions.
A quick review of the Diadochi Wars on Wikipedia made me realise that it's too good to be true as an option. Imagine having a campaign focused on almost all Alexanders successors with a map focused on Southern Balkans, Anatolia, North Africa and the Levant+maybe Babylonia, playing as Cassander, Antigonus, Ptolemy, Seleucus, Olympia, and then later on Pyrrhus, Antiochus and Antigonus Gonatas.
From the North you'll have to deal with the invading Gauls as a horde (then settling in Galatia), South Illyrians, Aetolian League, and Sparta (Pyrrhus attack on 272 BC).
Imagine adding South Italy and Sicily to the map to include Rome and Syracuse as well as Pyrrhus' campaigns and you have a record selling DLC.
So I'll settle with Mithridatic Wars (hopefully) or Jewish revolt as the Diadochi is too ambitious for CA.
I think it is unfair to rule out the Diadochi Wars at this point in time as Empire Divided was quite ambitious as well, and yet we still got it. However, I agree their comments seem to rule it out.
I don't think the Jewish Revolt or the Mithridatic Wars will happen personally; both fall into the timespan of the Grand Campaign, and both involve familar factions as far as I understand them. I don't see where the 'new' factions would come in. On another note, is there really enough factions in either of them for them to be a dedicated campaign?
I would currently bet on a Persian Invasion dlc set before Wrath of Sparta. That would be focused on a particular time and place, have a mix of factions both new and old, and it is something that is barely touched. You could have Athens, Sparta, Persia, Lydia, Halicarnuss (Led by Artemisa), etc.
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I had long day, So I was late to the discussion but I have something else for you. You ready for wall of text? So first things first:
LET´S BEGIN GREAT BETTING GAME! I wrote down everybody mentioning any kind of conflict in this thread from first to the last post. Any duplicity were terminated. (Hope I didn´t miss anybody important ) According to Kla it will be one of these...
1) @Daruwind2) @ThePoshBarbarianAlexander / Diadochi wars (and Lamian War, First War of the Diadochi 322–320 BC, Second partition 321 BC and death of Antipater, Second War of the Diadochi 319–315 BC, Third War of the Diadochi 314–311 BC, Babylonian War 311–309 BC, Fourth War of the Diadochi 308–301 BC, The struggle over Macedon 298–285 BC, The struggle of Lysimachus and Seleucus 285–281 BC, The Gallic invasions and consolidation 280–275 BC + Second Samnite War (326-304 BC.), Third Samnite War (298-290 BC.), Gauls/Etruscans (285-282 BC.),Pyrrhic War (280-275 BC.) leading into First Punic War ;-) )3) @San Felipeconquest of Britain or the Boudicca's revolt!4) @I, ClaudiusBronze Age Campaign5) @jamreal18 Romans, Romans everywhere But I would disqualify him for not picking anything...1st choice- Mithradatic wars...young Pompeii, Spartacus, Sulla and of course The Poison King himself.
2nd place- Trajan vs Dacia
3rd-The German wars6) @LinusLinothoraxWars of the Roman Republic/EmpireSpoiler Alert, click show to read:7) @RexImperator10% that it will be about the Italian wars of the late 4th and early 3rd century.8) @herne_the _hunterA Slave revolt faction with characters like Eunus, Tryphon and Spartacus.
The Social War Italian State with units from a variety of tribes including the Samnites, Marsi, Lucanians, Pompeians, Iapygians and others.
The Maccabee revolt against the Seleucid Empire
Carthaginian Mercenary Revolt
The Invasion of the Yuezhi, which could really upset the Balance of power in the Eastern provinces.
The Sun Citizens, a revolt of the poorer classes and slaves led by Aristonicus of Pergamon after Rome annexed that kingdom
Pirates of the Mediterranean, entire fleets of Corsairs who were a major menace on shipping until put down by Pompey the Great
The Sertorian Republic, set up by Quintus Sertorius in Spain as a government in exile, it's opposition to Sulla last for many years and included many Lusitanian and Iberians.
Mamertines, rebellious mercenaries of Syracuse who set up a piratical kingdom in Messina, raiding Sicily and Southern Italy9) @DiocleI'm quite partial to a Medieval campaign starting around 1080 CE sometime after Manzikert though Attila Total War stands in the way with that one. So alternatively I want to be pleasently suprised in what ever they choose as it finances the bug fixing of land glitches and amphibious boats.10) @M.A.E- ...then maybe also something about the Age of Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius (Marcomannic Wars) and Commodus (the real beginning of the end).
- It would be very interesting also a detailed campaign describing the complex and awesome moment of Persian history in which the Sassanids took over the Parthian Empire.
- Also interesting would be the Tetrachy, with all its conflicts, its political complexities and its dangerous political equilibrium, a good challange for any player trying to verify if there were other ways to Restore the Roman Empire11) @Avarice1987Constantine the Great,Latin Wars,
i think Nero last of julio-claudian Emperors
Campaign about ancient Egypt even before wrath of Sparta timeline dlc and about the bad Persians with their elephants12) @Theofanis the AetolianMap With Fokus on Germanicus.13) @zhouhaiyangTroyGreat jewish revol
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