Seriously I wonder if nobody has posted about this before but the armored horse archer (AHA) for Kwarezm blows balls compared to the Persian Horse Archer (PHA)

Are they intetionally this bad or is it an oversight?

What is going on (the details)?


I checked their stats and they have so few things going for them I wonder why they even exist other than for show...their mount is armored, they have a higher armor rating and they have more men in their unit and they have low maintenance cost...Oh yeah and they can do a cantabrian circle... That's it! Everything else is worse!


The downsides?

>Lets start with the basics: They cost a whopping 1755 gold!!! And take 5 turns to recruit!!! vs 585 gold and 1 turn to recruit for persian horse archers. I can recruit 3x as many with that gold. The only grace is that they cost 250 gold to maintain vs 400 gold for the persian.

>They have a measly 3 bow attack vs 5 bow attack for the persians...and their secondary their melee is only 5 attack and 4 charge vs 6 and 6 for the persian! They suck even more at melee than their counterpart despite them ''supposedly'' being better geared towards more melee...Okay so they probably have more accurate bow attacks right given the lowered attack values? No...no...not at all...persians get elite arrows and shoot 20 meters further while they get regular joe shmoe arrows.

> They have 9 armor vs 4 for the persian. I suppose a 1000 gold does get you better jeans despite that non upgraded the armored horse archer just looks like a peasant on a horse...his upgraded versions do look very sweet though...the gold upgrade for the horse archer is really badass...you can't go wrong aesthetically after the first upgrade but the regular schmoes just look like peasants on an armored horse..the horse literally has better gear than these dudes riding it...

> they have 4 defence skill vs 5 for the persian... I guess those extra 4 turns of training really helped out in forgetting how to block...

> they have 3 shield vs 2 shield for the persian..Aha! That's where the 4 turns extra training came into effect!...Rather than being better at trained blocking they just get a fancier shield...(no...no wait...they only get a fancier shield if they are upgraded)

> Despite having 4 more turns of training and sinking 1000 gold in their gear...they have 12 mental vs 14 for the persians...thats it...they even run away faster as wimps...

> To finish it off...they endure heat waaay less than persians and have much bigger penalties in most terrains. They're basically useless unless on flat terrain.

Sooo for 3x the initial hiring cost you get a half baked horse archer unit that is slower, less accurate and has less punching weight in melee than its counterpart.

It honestly feels like all the negatives of the Armored Horse Archer should be the base stats for the Persian and the awesomeness of the Persian should be transferred to the Armored Horse Archer. There is literally no other reason to hire these guys other than for their TINY improved survivability rating vs arrow fire (due to increased armor rating + 1 extra shield) they are literally worse at everything else...from melee to shooting...

So to summarize.

Worse at shooting by far, (half as effective)
Worse at melee by a bit, (about a quarter less effective)
three times as expensive, (ing expensive)
takes 5x as long to recruit, (Takes forever to recruit)
Worse moral, (run like wimps at first sign of trouble)
Without upgrades looks like peasants stole the kings horses...

I think the last statement pretty much sums them up...

Looks like the Shah gave a bunch of peasants horses from his own personal stable and armory and then trained them in lolligagging for 4 years until he got fed up with them and sent them to the actual field.

Anyone care to explain???