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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    Tiranoc Heraldic units

    Spoiler for Swordmen, Spearmen and Pikemen

    Swordmen



    Sentinel Swrordmen



    Spearmen



    Sentinel Spearmen



    Pikemen



    Sentinel Pikemen





    Spoiler for Silver Helms and High Helms

    Silver Helms



    High Helms





    Spoiler for Archers and Hawkeyes


    Archers



    Hawkeyes



    Armored archers



    Armored Hawkeyes




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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    I have also made a new version of the chariots, to make them more distinct from the generic chariots recruitable everywherE.

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    Yvresse heraldic units

    Spoiler for Swordmen, Spearmen and Pikemen

    Swordmen



    Sentinel Swordmen



    Spearmen



    Sentinel Spearmen



    Pikemen




    Sentinel Pikemen






    Spoiler for Silver Helms and High Helms


    Silver Helms



    High Helms





    Spoiler for Archers and Hawkeyes


    Archers



    Hawkeyes



    Armored Archers



    Armored Hawkeyes



    Mistwalkers (unique unit of Yvresse)





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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    Ok, so I did some testing, and it seems the resource ARE working. I have added a HE_N resource to the star tower, made it a requirement for Spearmen, and started a campaign with Tyrion, another with Teclis.
    Tyrion cannot recruit Spearmen, but Teclis can


    Now, I have two possible solutions for my mod


    1) Use landmarks. Idea: Spearman have a "generic" weaker version, recruitable with the Barracks, but anywhere (Ulthuan, and rest of the World). Then, I have special hearldic spearmen (exemple: eataine Spearmen), that requires the Lothern landmark as primary requirement, and the barracks as additional requirements.
    This way, HE can recruit better spearmen, in Ulthuan only, and have to recruit weaker units elsewhere
    Since I limited the umber of heraldic units, it means you can recruit a core of "strong" units in Ulthuan kingdoms, and outside you only have weaker units, and if you reach your limit of strong heraldic units, you also need to fall back to weaker units to complete your roster
    It works, and doesn't reequire startpos editing. However, it requires a Landmark. Works well for Ulthuan since there is a landmark virtualkly everywhere, but poor Teclis is stuck with weaker units, and his start position is thus even harder.

    2) Use resource ID. I could give region specific resource everywhere, so my Eataine spearmen can only be recruited in Eataine, not using Landmarks. This would be more flexible, can work more precisely as I could tweak it region by region. But requires a lot of startpos changes


    What do you think of both methods?

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    And now units specific to the Gates!

    Eagle Gates

    Guards




    Sentinels



    Silver Helms





    Griffon Gates

    Guards



    Sentinels



    Silver Helms



    Phoenix Gate

    Guards



    Sentinels



    Silver Helms




    Unicorn Gate

    Guards



    Sentinels



    Silver Helms




    And to finish, all the icons together

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    This is a really nice looking mod, too bad these forums are completely dead

    Next time I start a high elves campaign I'll make sure to try this out and give you some feedback.

    Edit:
    Not seeing a download link, you still working on this?
    Last edited by Athos187; June 07, 2018 at 02:18 PM.

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    Yes, I"m busy updating the mod for the latest DLC, and I need also an update of the unlocker to activate regional recruitment.

    I hope to release the mod with new link maybe next week end for a beta.

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    Wow, I love it how look this mod.
    I cant wait to play it.
    Hope you release soon.

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    I'm updating it to include the new units from the latest DLC. I'll post a few more screens probably this week end

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    Great. I bought the DLC the Queen and the Crone, but after a fast play, I prefer wait to play your mod with a lot of more units.
    Thanks

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    I think you can start playing without my mod, I'll still need time to finish it. And the n try again later with the mod to compare.

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    So I see is far away from finish.
    I will try the basic game, but I wish play with more elves units and heraldry, like your mod.
    Hope soon Total war make DLC of Ogre Kingdoms and Kislev (with real Kislev units and not just the Empire)

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    Not "far", but this week end I try for my 2nd Dan Aikido black belt, then I have my parents in law 50 years wedding anniversary, then we have an exchange student for 2 weeks...

    So I don't have much more to do, but few time to do need before mid July

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    I see. Good luck with your 2nd Dan Aikido

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    Got it! In my group 2 out 9 succeeded (including me), 7 failed.

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    Congratz.
    A question about your mod.
    If you play with Lothern, and you conquest Averlorn, you will can recruit the sisters, maidens etc units, and special ones like Pegasi Sisters?
    If you recruit units, example a Archer, en Tiranoc city, but you Kingdom is Lothern, that units come with Tiranoc Heraldry or Lothern Heraldry?
    thanks

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    I've reworked a bit the sisters following DLC. I now have "generic" sisters, with the graphics preview in this thread earlier. They can be recruited with the sisters building, in any region, but they are more or less equivelent to standard archer/spearmen. Kind of female version of regular troops. They wil get the Avelorn shields I preview here (for Spear sisters), but they will have the colour sof the main recruiting faction (i.e. if you play as Lothern, they will get blue shirt, while with Avelorn it will be green shirt).

    Then you have the "Sisters of Avelorn" from the DLC. These one can be recruited only in Avelorn, but you can do it as any Elven faction, and always ahve the same colours. And they get their magical bow and better stats.


    So, as Lothern
    - Recruit female "standard" units in any region, with blue colour (but the shield is still green)
    - And fi you conquer Avelorn, recruit elite Sisters. If you don't conquer Avelorn, you won't get the elite sisters.

    Same for Shadow Warriors, but with Nagarythe (generic verison everywhere, elite in Nagarythe only).

    And conquering Avelorn give access to more special units, such as unicorn, pegasi, or Treeman.

    If you recruit an archer in Tiranoc as Lothern:
    - You can recruit a generic archer, it will have Lothern colours (these units can e recruited anywhere, including for exemple in the Old World)
    - You can recruit heraldic archers, it will have Tiranoc colours, abut cannot be recruited outside of Tiranoc, a,d the number of allowed units is limited.


    To summarize gameplay as the HE:
    - You can recruit weaker generic version of the units anywhere, including outisde of Ulthuan, with your faction main colours.
    - You can recruit heraldic units (Spearmen, Archers, Silver Helms) in the Ulthuan region, each region gives units with specific heraldry and increase the unit limits
    - You can recruit elite units (Swordmasters of Hoeth, Sisters of Avelorn, Phoenix Guard) in only one region, and they have the better stats.

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    I Undestand
    Thanks

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    A few pictures to show recent work

    Sisters of Avelorn with officers


    Shadow Warriors with officers


    Shadow Walkers with Officers

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    Default Re: SWO-RD : Steph's Warhammer Overhaul - Recruitment Diversity

    Generic Axemen now have a simple fur cape.

    The White lion head is only for White lions, recruited in Chrace.




    I have reworked the Dragon Princes colour mask so the generic version can use the two faction colours of their recruiting faction.




    The heraldic Dragon Princes use the same colour mask, with light/dark green and new shield


    And Drake Masters have orange and red. I made the less red than before, to keep the Fireborn with red colours





    Thanks to Woodtur who shared is Dragon Princes shield!

    And here a view of the Fireborn with their officers.


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