You should have a Patron

**mrsmile1015** · November 24, 2017, 07:32 PM

Many people including me has been anticipating the release of this mod for a long time and would like to contribute any way we can. Would a Patreon or a kickstarter for this mod help? I understand many team members are balancing the mod's production with their day to day careers and responsibilities. Would having some extra cash improve productivity in any way?

**Petellius** · November 25, 2017, 03:43 PM

It probably would, but unfortunately the team decided long before now that we wouldn't accept money or donations of any kind.

**JackPot** · November 27, 2017, 03:45 AM

Its also usually one of those things you do after you have released something tangible.

Right now it would be more like investing in a kickstarter and I personally wouldn't feel comfortable. After something is released you guys should revisit the idea in my opinion.

Who am I kidding though, I'd probably give you money anyway. I'm weak.

**MrMerisi** · January 23, 2018, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by JackPot

Its also usually one of those things you do after you have released something tangible.

Right now it would be more like investing in a kickstarter and I personally wouldn't feel comfortable. After something is released you guys should revisit the idea in my opinion.

Who am I kidding though, I'd probably give you money anyway. I'm weak.

I'm a patron to a couple of mods. I agree with the OP. Modding for $$ will be a business in the near future.

**Julio-Claudian** · January 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by MrMerisi

I'm a patron to a couple of mods. I agree with the OP. Modding for $$ will be a business in the near future.

I hope that doesn't kill the spirit of it though. I could swear I've seen a couple of mods which one cannot download without paying. Which is fair enough I suppose if you've worked hard on it.

**MrMerisi** · January 24, 2018, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Julio-Claudian

I hope that doesn't kill the spirit of it though. I could swear I've seen a couple of mods which one cannot download without paying. Which is fair enough I suppose if you've worked hard on it.

Yes I considered that possibility.

#1 reason mods don't evolve? Real life (aka $$) gets in the way.

It's not modding that will actually be the future, it's developers releasing proper SDKs allowing evolution collectives to form.

**Theramines** · January 25, 2018, 07:19 AM

I could swear I've seen a couple of mods which one cannot download without paying. Which is fair enough I suppose if you've worked hard on it.

That's against the ToS. And with respect, it isn't fair enough. I apologise for being blunt. Introducing the exchange of money into community projects always radically changes the relationships between its members. Which means:

I hope that doesn't kill the spirit of it though

It would.

**Petellius** · January 25, 2018, 08:47 AM

Yeah, look at how the Skyrim paid modding went xD

**Commissar Caligula_** · January 25, 2018, 08:56 AM

There's an ongoing debate about paid mods here if anyone's interested. Personally I'm against em, and in a team effort project I figure it'd just lead to more bad than good with people complaining about the % of money they gain against the % of effort/time they input.

**Julio-Claudian** · January 25, 2018, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Theramines

That's against the ToS. And with respect, it isn't fair enough. I apologise for being blunt. Introducing the exchange of money into community projects always radically changes the relationships between its members. Which means:

It would.

Originally Posted by Caligula

There's an ongoing debate about paid mods here if anyone's interested. Personally I'm against em, and in a team effort project I figure it'd just lead to more bad than good with people complaining about the % of money they gain against the % of effort/time they input.

I agree.

**MrMerisi** · January 25, 2018, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Julio-Claudian

I agree.

People already complain about not getting enough credit.

There's already a ton of dysfunctional mod "teams" who flake out, fight, argue, split off and give up. Allowing for compensation is not mutually exclusive with proper management of a distributed workforce of motivated people.

There are plenty of small businesses that modify software, plenty of tuning houses that modify cars. Sure, there's also unpaid volunteers. Just because nobody has yet succeeded in creating a well-managed modding business for TW doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.