The Four Kings (Kingdoms Teutonic HS) [ENDED]

**Captainnorway** · August 22, 2017, 11:07 AM

i also suggest we redo your plays?
or full restart?

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 11:31 AM

we have no way of verifying all the moves people made, except for HRE, because everyone but HRE had plenty of fog to work with on turn 1-2. So HRE would be guaranteed to be screwed and everyone else would be able to act with that knowledge on the prior turns, as opposed to not knowing HRE was about to get beaten up in the following turns.

I think it's more fair to do a full reset than to put him in an even worse position.

**Captainnorway** · August 22, 2017, 11:41 AM

Novgorod https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5a...ew?usp=sharing

again, I am terribly sorry for this.
I made sure to write down the password this time.

**Errichto** · August 22, 2017, 11:44 AM

Why is redoing moves putting him in a worse position?

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 12:19 PM

we don't know what people did in the fog of war. the only person who didn't have fog of war to hide their actions was HRE. So HRE would be forced to do everything the same, and everyone else would be able to just do whatever they wanted, knowing from the start what is going to happen to HRE, and nobody could say "that isn't what you did"

that is unfair

**Errichto** · August 22, 2017, 12:28 PM

I will reveal my old passs. Is it fair now?

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 12:39 PM

so after restarting we are gonna have to have to wait for the admin to get on and spend time comparing saves until we get back to where we were

**Captainnorway** · August 22, 2017, 12:47 PM

if i am comparing saves i could just play them myself?

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 12:53 PM

if everyone wants to do that idc, i just think it'd be a lot faster to just restart and play, and I think it's silly to be so selfish over a couple of early victories

**Errichto** · August 22, 2017, 01:01 PM

Nobody has to compare anything. Similarly, we don't have to check exactly what hre does.
ok, a full restart without repeating moves. But it also means the diplomacy is restarted

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 01:12 PM

**Errichto** · August 22, 2017, 02:14 PM

I will create a new blog with the same tittle and let's play there, shall we? Basically nothing here is related to the new game.

If you want, we can start with a changed rule "you can surround but every army should have at least one non-general cavalry", what makes it reasonable to recruit and maintain cavs. What do you think?

**cowcow** · August 22, 2017, 02:17 PM

This topic is fine for the game. No need to create a new one just to change the page number.

**CelivalTheGreat** · August 23, 2017, 07:26 AM

hre turn 1 again sigh https://www.mediafire.com/file/o91fk.../tfk_hre_1.sav

**Errichto** · August 23, 2017, 07:58 AM

LPL, in case you haven't see messagse on steam - I offer peace in this restarted version. So think about it before doing your first turn.

**LordPureLegacy** · August 23, 2017, 03:51 PM

So were restarting? i will do my turn but if you guys wish i will redo it and do everything i previously have done (i do remember everything i did).

By the way Norway it is fine to make a mistake like this it is not easy to admin and we all appreciate you even being admin for this.

**Errichto** · August 23, 2017, 04:04 PM

After thinking, I prefer a full restart and I think everybody does. So it's a full restart.

**LordPureLegacy** · August 23, 2017, 04:44 PM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F...ew?usp=sharing
Denmark Up!
Sorry if i messed it up i might have accidentally did my first turn save from last time.