Is there a surefire way to not have civil wars?

**The Despondent Mind** · May 25, 2017, 11:09 AM

Can it be moded easily? Is there a sub-mod, is there some game exploit to prevent them?

For the love of god, why do we even have it in this magnificent mod?

**KAM 2150** · May 25, 2017, 11:22 AM

I never had a single civil war in DeI through all past years, even when I was not trying to avoid them. Plus why would they be removed? They are easy to manage.

**Ygraine** · May 25, 2017, 11:24 AM

You have to balance political power between the parties to avoid it. I believe there's a explanation somewhere among the guides.

Or if you're like me and think this is a silly and broken mechanic in its current state, then this should deactivate your civil wars, load before Divide Et Impera.

https://mega.nz/#!e9h2FDSL!h0yEr6rd7...T9jBC3WmTnvTBg

**The Despondent Mind** · May 25, 2017, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by KAM 2150

I never had a single civil war in DeI through all past years, even when I was not trying to avoid them. Plus why would they be removed? They are easy to manage.

Ygraine gave the perfect answer.

Originally Posted by Ygraine

Or if you're like me and think this is a silly and broken mechanic in its current state, then this should deactivate your civil wars, load before Divide Et Impera.

https://mega.nz/#!e9h2FDSL!h0yEr6rd7WMwGZjJgbRuoUGKEUIpyT9jBC3WmTnvTBg

**KYREAPER** · May 27, 2017, 01:23 PM

Iv nvr had a civil war either... even with a big empire...
Seems rather easy to just use all 4 families for something.

**Satansblofish** · May 27, 2017, 05:33 PM

I have also never had a civil war in all of my dei campaigns, including both 1.1 and 1.2. Actually, I would be more interested in a mod that could trigger a civil war.

**popovic** · May 28, 2017, 08:05 AM

IMO, the civil war prerequisites should be made considerably lower, IMO. And perhaps some random event (like that political decision, if possible) should be made that might push you into it.

**Avarice1987** · May 28, 2017, 11:22 AM

I Hope we can see a Civil war Submod, to trigger it on a High Empire Level.

**RecKooo** · May 28, 2017, 12:16 PM

A civil war stopping mod is a good thing once you win one. You might choose to become an emperor and political balance is not relevant anymore "And we shall have peace..."

**theLuchii** · May 28, 2017, 03:04 PM

For me, I just adopt every general/admiral/governor and the influence penalties keep my influence sufficiently low as not to trigger a civil war, I've never gone above "low civil war chance".

**Daergar** · May 29, 2017, 03:21 AM

The absolute easiest way, which also gives you the most freedom and control, is to steadily adopt the other factions' generals. Once the gravitas gain per turn, and thus your influence, grows out of hand, and you cannot adopt any more people, you simply perform any political action that removes senators/nobles from your faction.

This way you can easily maintain your desired level of influence, which tends to be one step below the low civil war threshold, and go on with your game.

Personally I'd see no problem removing the civil war function completely, mostly because it becomes a time-wasting mini-game that holds no danger once you know how the system works. I'd much rather see generals with high gravitas and ambition revolt with their own personal army, ie go rebel, after a warning "he is growing too powerful, watch him!". That'd add flavor if nothing else.

**Ygraine** · May 29, 2017, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Daergar

Personally I'd see no problem removing the civil war function completely, mostly because it becomes a time-wasting mini-game that holds no danger once you know how the system works. I'd much rather see generals with high gravitas and ambition revolt with their own personal army, ie go rebel, after a warning "he is growing too powerful, watch him!". That'd add flavor if nothing else.

Couldn't have written it better myself!

Unless CA releases patches and adds missing features to the game then the only chance we might see this is from some script-guru.

**Dresden** · May 29, 2017, 01:18 PM

The problem is the mechanism for removing and assigning a general to a dormant faction doesn't exist, as far as I know.

**Daergar** · May 29, 2017, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dresden

The problem is the mechanism for removing and assigning a general to a dormant faction doesn't exist, as far as I know.

Oh, this is more of a wishful dream, not a request. I certainly assumed that if there was a way to make a general "go Julius", you folks would have implemented it by now.