repeatable crash after update

[magnificent walrus]

My operating system is Debian GNU/Linux, I'm using Wine to run the Windows version of the game. I was playing 2.2l for a while. Now I patched to 2.2o and started a new campaign as Pergamon and attacked the rebel stack in Mysia. They retreated one tile so that they were now on the coast, I attacked again, the battle screen started loading and I got a crash: eb.system.log.txt.zip
My previous bug report on The Org (http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...t-my-error-log) was also after an update I believe, so I'll try reinstalling and patching directly from 2.2b to 2.2o QuintusSertorius tells me that incremental patching shouldn't create any problems but maybe it does on Wine, I don't know.
By the way, what should I do to reinstall 2.2b? Should I use the Wine program "Uninstall EB II" and then install EB as if I had a fresh Kingdoms installation? Is this the shortest one?

[QuintusSertorius]

I can't see anything obvious in that log; could you re-enable trace and run the crash again?

[magnificent walrus]

I can't see anything obvious in that log; could you re-enable trace and run the crash again?

Now, it crashes so soon after I run the game that I'm not even able to start a campaign: eb.system.log.txt.zip I'll just reinstall, I just have the feeling that I cannot patch incrementally on Wine.

[Paltmull]

If using Wine is messy, you could try the Steam version of M2TW which is available on Linux. I haven't tried it myself (I play most games on my Windows partition), so I don't know how well it works, but it might be worth a shot!

[QuintusSertorius]

Weird, I've not seen this before:

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13:07:54.012 [system.rpt] [error] Unspecified error. Please compress your error log in a zip format and upload it on the EBII technical help forum.

The normal pattern is something like this:

10:56:21.002 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/EBII/data/fmv/faction/game_intro.bik (from: D:\M2TW)
10:56:21.002 [bink] [debug] [mods/EBII/data/fmv/faction/game_intro.bik]Open
10:56:21.021 [bink] [debug] [mods/EBII/data/fmv/faction/game_intro.bik]Pause off
10:56:22.144 [bink] [debug] [mods/EBII/data/fmv/faction/game_intro.bik]Pause on
10:56:22.144 [bink] [debug] [mods/EBII/data/fmv/faction/game_intro.bik]Pause on

Looks like it's spinning it's wheels, not completing something.

If you do reinstall, don't forget the animations update, you'll have to re-apply that. Also, I'd suggest as short a path as possible, how about C:\M2TW\ ?

[magnificent walrus]

Weird, I've not seen this before:

It might be due to Wine, you don't need to worry about it.

If you do reinstall, don't forget the animations update, you'll have to re-apply that. Also, I'd suggest as short a path as possible, how about C:\M2TW\ ?

I only uninstalled EB as I've said, though I can uninstall Medieval II completely if need be. You had previously said you didn't know anything about GNU/Linux but let me still inform you that Wine creates a ".wine" folder in /home/doruk/ and C:\ is actually the "drive_c" folder in that special folder. I think I could do what you suggested, I coudn't get outside the .wine folder but I could, as you suggest, choose /home/doruk/.wine/drive_c/M2TW as the destination folder of Medieval II. Though, as I've mentioned I was playing 2.2l without any repeatable crash just fine until I've decided to upgrade for a new campaign.

[QuintusSertorius]

Could be, I'm not familiar with Wine.

The point about the path is a general one: the shorter the better, regardless of platform or O/S. There's an old bug whereby if the path exceeds 127 characters, you get crashes.

[magnificent walrus]

I ran the Wine program "Uninstall EB II" but afterwards they were not removed from the list of Wine programs. I went to the folder and saw that few things like save files remained but I deleted them too. Then, I installed EB 2.2b as if on a fresh Kingdoms installation. Then I patched to 2.2o
On my first campaign start I was greeted by Galatian Shakedown event, somehow it had fired immediately on game start (It usually doesn't because it is chance based but it seems that it can appear on the first turn and pop up even before the "Choose a Potential Successor" message.) and I refused to pay them so a stack appeared right next to my starting army. I moved the city garrison next to it too and attacked, it retreated. When I attacked again, it crashed when the exactly same percentage of the bar was filled while loading the campaign screen: eb.system.log.txt.zip I had to power off the computer. Then I started a campaign again and this time attacked the starting rebel stack in Mysia with a smaller force such that it didn't retreat, but it crashes in the exact same way.
Either my reinstall wasn't thorough or there is a problem introduced since 2.2l I'll try reinstalling Medieval 2 completely (And I'll also be able to choose a shorter path.) and if the problem persists, as a last resort I may think that Wine itself is corrupted (I'm not a technical person so actually I'm not sure if this is a possible cause of the problem.) and reinstall Wine too.

[QuintusSertorius]

Again, nothing immediately obvious in that log, either.

[z3n]

Have you followed the instructions already about deleting the no banner mesh and so on?

[magnificent walrus]

Again, nothing immediately obvious in that log, either.

Sorry, I forgot to switch to the more detailed logging method. This time, after switching, the game didn't crash immediately so that I was able to start a campaign and engage the rebel stack. Alas, it crashes in the same way while loading the battle screen: eb.system.log.txt.zip

Have you followed the instructions already about deleting the no banner mesh and so on?

No, the folder paths mentioned there does not correspond to mine (You can see mine in my second previous post here.), could it be that they refer to Feral Interactive version? Plus, I used to play 2.2l just fine.

Now, I'm going to reinstall Medieval II too, because the first patch I apply after 2.2b seems to work; but when I patch again, I encounter problems.

[magnificent walrus]

Wow, even after doing a thorough reinstall, it still crashes in the exactly the same way. Then, the problem is specific to me (or Wine users). Can I get the patch before 2.2o? I read that 2.2o corrects a bug in 2.2n, then can I get 2.2m? Thank you.

[QuintusSertorius]

There's something weird going on with your installation:

03:12:18.799 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/ebii/data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod0.mesh
03:12:18.800 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod0.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.800 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod0.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.800 [system.io] [warning] open: data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod0.mesh is missing
03:12:18.800 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/ebii/data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod1.mesh
03:12:18.800 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod1.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.801 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod1.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.801 [system.io] [warning] open: data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod1.mesh is missing
03:12:18.801 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/ebii/data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod2.mesh
03:12:18.801 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod2.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.801 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod2.mesh,,not found
03:12:18.802 [system.io] [warning] open: data/unit_models/_Units/EB_Hetairoi/hetairoi_lod2.mesh is missing
03:12:18.843 [system.rpt] [error] Unspecified error. Please compress your error log in a zip format and upload it on the EBII technical help forum.

It thinks you have a missing unit. Where did you get your copy of 2.2b from? There's a corrupted version on the torrents that we haven't been able to remove from circulation, though that one doesn't finish the installation.

I'd also note you have file caching enabled, which does nothing good. Do you have this in your EBII.cfg:

[io]
file_first = 1
disable_file_cache = 1

I'm afraid I don't save previous versions; 2.2n was broken anyway.

[magnificent walrus]

There's something weird going on with your installation:

I've reinstalled since. Maybe the random crashes I'd been getting corrupted my installation in the end

It thinks you have a missing unit. Where did you get your copy of 2.2b from? There's a corrupted version on the torrents that we haven't been able to remove from circulation, though that one doesn't finish the installation.

I didn't delete the zip in case I would have to reinstall (like in this case) and I didn't download it through torrent at that time, it was from your site I think.

I'd also note you have file caching enabled, which does nothing good. Do you have this in your EBII.cfg:

[io]
file_first = 1
disable_file_cache = 1

Yes, that's what it says under [io]. I don't know what file caching is.

I'm afraid I don't save previous versions; 2.2n was broken anyway.

I said I wanted to get 2.2m for that reason. Oh well, 2.2b shouldn't be so bad! Can I still apply the animation patch or should I not?

[QuintusSertorius]

I really wouldn't recommend 2.2b; there's a horde of bugs we've fixed since then, the finance script doesn't work, you don't have any of the AI updates, all sorts of elements of the battle space don't work well, the list goes on.

[magnificent walrus]

Should I try reinstalling Wine? I'm also going to install RTW now, so I think it's a good time for a clean Wine installation.

[QuintusSertorius]

I don't know; I have no idea if all these issues are relating to Wine, it's bizarre that it should work with only one of the patches.

[magnificent walrus]

I didn't reinstall Wine because I've read that I only need to delete the Wine folder if I want reset its settings and such. After that, I installed M2TW, Kingdoms, and EB 2.2o again. Now, when I load a battle it doesn't crash at the same percentage of the bar as before but it crashes when the bar is almost full instead. I have no idea about the cause of the problem or its solution either, so I'll just have to wait for the next version to come out.

[magnificent walrus]

I uninstalled Wine, created a Windows partition and installed 2.2p on it. Works perfectly, just finished my first battle as Pergamon against the stack created by Galatians shakedown event (The probability that it appears on the first turn as soon as you start the campaign does not seem to be low at all that I started to wonder if there is a bug that makes it more likely at the start.). Still, thank you very much for trying to help me with Wine.

[QuintusSertorius]

Glad you finally got a resolution to that.