Is Donald Trump mentaly \ morally fit for the presidency?

[Heathen Hammer]

And yet he made no formal divestiture so yep - direct management??? That would be like putting my son in charge of my house and bar and than have every foreign collaborator my wife flies in eat at said bar and stay at my mothers guest house for a per day rent. Technically my wife would not directly benefit...

Whatever, doesn't change the fact that Trump isn't directly managing his business.

I don't really know HH, your posts where hillery would be the great Halk while your yam dives to tooo what one war two or just roll the dice on North Korea or Iran...

I have no idea what you tried to say here.

Technically all the Founding fathers and signers of the D of Independence did. Sorta backed into the system. On balance if you actually consider how the nation standing under that flag has treated blacks, Indians and Chinese for well rather a time 'poorly' to say the least. Perhaps you can see while some silly display of nationalism at a sports game might not be so emotion string and a good chance for a non violent protest.

Every nation did bad things in history. Having said that, if it wasn't for the nation represented by that flag, all the groups you mentioned would have been much worse of.

HA HA have you ever posted anything with a source - please source.

I didn't make any claim. Source what?

Trump is a vague on that because it seems to include statues of loosers in the treasonous defense of slavery as well.

Confederate generals are an important symbol for people who live in the states that fought on Confederate side (which fought for independence, as even Union leadership admitted that slavery wasn't the issue and was explained in great detail in corresponding thread in Academy, so if you want to continue arguing the boring leftist stereotypes you can do it there).
Again, your post kinda proves my initial point about how anti-Trump crowd can't think of any non-superficial reasons to criticize Trump.

[tgoodenow]

You can't truly be so blinded by partisan nonsense that you think Pence was there to watch the game. He told his press pool to wait in the van because he would be leaving early. His prepared statement went out minutes after the game started. He also went to a game where his team was playing the 49ers, the (evil librul californy) team where the protests started.

100% empty virtue signalling and a waste of taxpayer money.

I thought virtue signaling on the job was allowable and encouraged? Or is only when youre a multimillionaire complaining about imagined oppression?

[the_mango55]

I thought virtue signaling on the job was allowable and encouraged? Or is only when youre a multimillionaire complaining about imagined oppression?

Obviously the Trump administration is primarily about virtue signalling. Lord knows they haven't been able to get anything else done.

The difference between this and the rest of the time is how much taxpayer money they are willing to waste simply to make some political stance against the first amendment.

Kneeling during the anthem isn't wasting anyone's money. They are playing the anthem either way.

[NorseThing]

Kneeling during the national anthem is not about wasting money. Why is it about wasting money when a politician is protesting the protesters? How about discussing the protest. How about discussing the reasons for the protest. Both the Pence walk out and the NFL players that kneeled. Oh wait they did not say anything so we do not know what the protest is actually supposed to change. Never mind.

[Condottiere 40K]

Pence doesn't strike me as the type to either waste his time or money, but virtue signalling for his boss or even a wider audience is very plausible.

Trump never has an issue with inconveniencing others or travel and security expenses, for even ten minute drama, if in his mind it makes him look good or if he can go on vacation.

[Condottiere 40K]

I think Corker is angling for a run in twenty twenty, and apparently, has the capability to match Trump at Twittering.

[tgoodenow]

I think Corker is angling for a run in twenty twenty, and apparently, has the capability to match Trump at Twittering.

He doesn't have a chance against Jeb

[Ludicus]

Trump, the moral and and intellectual pygmy,
Trump challenges Tillerson to 'compare IQ tests' after reported 'moron ...

But if he did [say] that, I guess we’ll have to compare IQ tests. And I can tell you who is going to win.

[Condottiere 40K]

One bankruptcy could be bad luck, two a coincidence.

[alhoon]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/white-hous...162315826.html

That certainly doesn't sound like Trump is totally "there"

[ggsimmonds]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/white-hous...162315826.html

That certainly doesn't sound like Trump is totally "there"

That mirrors a report from earlier this year where European diplomats exchanged tips on dealing with Trump.

The prevailing guidelines were to keep it short and compliment him.

[Condottiere 40K]

We know that Tillerson had been persuaded to stay until the end of the year, but at this rate, I doubt that his temper will hold out.

[NorseThing]

I had thought another Trump thread, but no. This one is good.

Pres. Trump the comforter. Another area that troubled presidents can play for political support like foreign policy travel.

Santa Rosa has pretty much burned to the ground.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/u...rnia-fire.html

Not every home has burned. Not every business has burned. Not every hospital has burned. Not every school has burned. However many of these structures have burned and the pictures are all over the broadcast news and the internet news sites. I am not saying this is the same as the hurricanes that whipped thru many important areas of the country. People have died and people are displaced. First responders are doing what first responders do. The governor has declared the affected areas as a state disaster. I do not if it ahs been declared a Federal disaster yet, but in any case FEMA and federal funds will be coming. I am suggesting that there will plenty of chances for friendly photo opportunities if Pres. Trump were to tour California soon after the immediate fires are contained and the rebuilding begins.

This state is not exactly a Trump supporting state. California was very much in play for both Republicans and Democrats in the past. The big cities like urban cities everywhere these areas are not in play for the Republicans. That does not mean that urban areas are not in play for Pres. Trump and his political agenda. The whole state may be in play for his political agenda. The problem is what political agendas can the people in California shift the balance on changing legislation?

There is a big differance between the conservatives and the Republican party. You can see the divisions with Breitbart and their agenda to fight within the Republican party regarding who will be supported or opposed in the upcoming elections. Today the conservatives see common cause with other Republicans, but this may not last long if the party cannot pass legislation. A series of deals between Trump and the Democrats that results in legislation will change both the Democratic and the Republican parties.

Could a Trump outreach in California be a start to something?

[Admiral Piett]

One thing I am very curious about is who is going to have the cojones to stand in the 2020 election. Most especially if any strong resistance from within the GOP challenge him. The Democrats really don't have anyone interesting to run. If Bernie decides to give it another shot, I'll vote for him in the primary unless someone really interesting runs in for the GOP against Trump. Hell, if The Rock runs, I'll vote for him.

[Magnum_Opus]

Why on earth would you vote for a socialist? Does there need to be an even higher national debt?

Trump isn't the best president, but frankly he's better than the last two.

[Condottiere 40K]

Divide by three, or count to three.

He certainly leads with his gut.

[irontaino]

Trump's to do list:
1. IQ test against Tillerson
2. Rap battle against Eminem

[Condottiere 40K]

Golf match against Stephen Hawking.

He still plans to cheat.

[RubiconDecision]

There is no fascist state in America.

There is no overt discrimination against Black Americans by law enforcement. There is no data to support the assertions of BLM.

Kneeling does nothing during the National Anthem except make the kneelers look stupid. Rich football players posturing to sabotage their fanbase. Well it is working as people have stopped watching, stopped buying tickets, the stadium is emptier, the fans are burning jerseys, and it is so ruinous that NFL officials are getting involved.

Meanwhile the Democrats are responsible for over a hundred and sixty years of bigotry against African Americans, ruinous policies under Obama that according to Gary Smiley destroyed Black wealth, 17 million aborted Black babies, and extreme urban blight with no hope and change for them.

If All Lives Matter, then we should be scrutinizing law enforcement policies that harm a diverse number of perpetrators and that should have bipartisan and independent support.

Instead futile impotent posturing and pandering is going on and with collusion by a mass media that has a six percent approval rating.

Do you want to help Black Americans? Get them decent jobs with benefits as they had before Obama.

[the_mango55]

The cognitive dissonance is striking in Republican arguments. "Our policies from the 1960s are irrelevant because it was so long ago, but Democrat policy from the 1860s proves they are the real racists!"

As far as the NFL ratings. Yes they are down. In fact every sports ratings are down. You know what is doing worse in ratings than the NFL? That patriotic Haven Trump loves to compliment NASCAR.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...es-auto-racing