How-To: Add other faction units for new factions

[ozzy_t]

im new here (actually just registered) but have been looking at this tutorial cos i want to add some form of pikemen to england but every time ive tried i get a ctd. im probly just gonna try replacing "6 venice" with "7 england" for militia pikemen but im unsure if it will work. if i doo this for all the entries for the militia will this remove the pikemen texture for venice and add the venice texture for england? if this works i may try re adding venice.
does anybody else think that the english should have pikemen or is it just me.

id actually be happy if i could make billmen phalanx but this dont work either

[M3rcury15]

if you change the faction name venice to england then you added a new unit to england but then venice's units will be invisible

[kleemann]

Ozzy_t

Make sure you:
1. stringlenght and lenght number not mach
2. number of factions is not correct in both sections (texture and weapons)
3. you have wrong space somewhere

To make model visible you have to make only two steps!
1. Copy existing texture line and rename the faction and increase allowed factions number
2. You have to repeat step.1 with weapon animations section too.

[Gautar]

How do you add textures for the units of a custom faction that you've made your self? Is this possible?

[ozzy_t]

thanks for the help
my mistake it wasn't venice but spain so the textures are close anyway
ive just got to re give spain the militia and maybe just try to create a new unit of pikemen just for england maybe like the french pikemen

kleemann

Make sure you:
1. stringlenght and lenght number not mach
2. number of factions is not correct in both sections (texture and weapons)
3. you have wrong space somewhere

do you mean make sure check if

[phoenix[illusion]]

Theres only one normal texture for , example: mtw2_en_pplate_normal.texture so I made my own mtw2_en_pplate_normal_maaV.texture for man at arms of Venice units, and I want to ask you, what do I have to do so that man at arms of Venice can use this normal texture?

[M3rcury15]

find the previous line and change mtw2_en_pplate_normal.texture to mtw2_en_pplate_normal_maaV.texture but make sure you edit the number also so that there is exact number of letters in this line

[KnightErrant]

I've created a formatted battle_models.modeldb that might make editing
easier. I've uploaded it in .zip format here

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rt...ads/RTWupload/

It is called formatted_modeldb.zip.

I followed kleemann's suggestions as far as possible. The file was created
by parsing the original file with a MatLab script using regular expressions to
find where to insert the carriage return/linefeed codes to format the file.
It has been tested with the --io.file_first switch and the game loads. (I also
broke the file to verify the game CTDs to make sure the game was actually
reading the file.) I then fixed the file again and tested to verify the game
loads. Works fine with notepad or wordpad. Happy modding.

[King Kong]

First of all, many thanks for this great guide from M3rcury15 and the much more modder friendly modeldb file from KnightErrant! Really good work!

But I have a big problem:
I wanted to add the Saxons as a faction on campaign map.
Well, all added units work fine, except cavalry units (cavalry is invisible or, with the imperial knights, the riders are invisible!).
And when I put the saxons to the mounts, as described in the guide, the game won't start... No matter to which horse I put them.

Here is an example, what I added (red) and changed (blue) to the mounts:

5 Horse
14 fs_heavy_horse 0
0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
20 mount_armoured_horse 1.12 3
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod0.mesh 121
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod1.mesh 1225
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod2.mesh 10000
16
7 england
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_england.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/england_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
8 scotland
92 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_scotland.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/scotland_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 france
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_france.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/france_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
3 hre
87 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hre.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/hre_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
7 denmark
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/denmark_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 spain
89 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_spain.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/spain_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
8 portugal
92 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_portugal.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/portugal_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 milan
89 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_milan.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/milan_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 venice
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_venice.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/venice_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
96 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_papal_states.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/papal_states_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 sicily
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_sicily.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/sicily_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 poland
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_poland.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/poland_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
7 hungary
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hungary.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/hungary_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 slave
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/slave_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
4 merc
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
49 unit_sprites/merc_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr 0 1
6 saxons
87 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hre.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/hre_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr

..the red text (except the line: 6 saxons) was copied and pasted from the hre...


Can anyone help??

Many thanks in advance!

[TheEmperorsPointyStick]

@KnightErrant Great job on clearing that mess up!

However, I do have some questions regarding format:

In the vanilla file, spacing was very important and hitting ENTER screwed with that (at least it did for me...). In your version, If I want to add something, can I just hit ENTER and begin typing? Or will this screw up the file? Sorry, I don't have internet at home right now, so I can't just test it myself. I thought I'd better ask now than be helpless later.

@all For the reason above, I'd like to ask for someone to proofread my attempt at adding Knights Hospitaller to the HRE now, as I won't be able to ask for help later if it doesn't work...

Here goes: I added the bold sections by hitting ENTER and copy/pasting.

19 knights_hospitaller 
1 4 
63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/knights_hospitaller_lod0.mesh 121 
63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/knights_hospitaller_lod1.mesh 900 
63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/knights_hospitaller_lod2.mesh 2500 
63 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/knights_hospitaller_lod3.mesh 6400 11 
7 england 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/england_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
8 scotland 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
52 unit_sprites/scotland_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
3 hre 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
44 unit_sprites/hre_Teutonic_Knights_sprite.spr
6 france 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
50 unit_sprites/france_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
7 denmark 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/denmark_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
5 milan 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
49 unit_sprites/milan_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
50 unit_sprites/venice_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
56 unit_sprites/papal_states_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
6 sicily 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
50 unit_sprites/sicily_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
6 poland 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
50 unit_sprites/poland_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 
7 hungary 
77 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_hospitaller.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/hungary_Knights_Hospitaller_sprite.spr 11 
7 england 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_england_diff.texture 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_england_norm.texture 0  
8 scotland 
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_scotland_diff.texture 
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_scotland_norm.texture 0
3 hre 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_diff.texture 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_norm.texture 0
6 france 
67 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_france_diff.texture 
67 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_france_norm.texture 0  
7 denmark 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_denmark_diff.texture 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_denmark_norm.texture 0

---cut the rest to save place---

I repeated the same for the two upgraded models. I won't post the entire entries again, but here is what I added (besides changing the faction numbers from 10 to 11):

3 hre 
70 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_hre.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
44 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr
.
.
.
.
3 hre 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_diff.texture 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_norm.texture 0

and

3 hre 
70 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_hre.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
45 unit_sprites/hre_NE_Late_Bodyguard_sprite.spr
.
.
.
.
3 hre 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_diff.texture 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_hre_norm.texture 0

I basically re-used the entries for Teutonic Knights for the upgraded Hospitaller forms. Did I miss something vital or should this work?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

[KnightErrant]

@King Kong
Look at the 15th entry (the mercs). See the 0 1 at the end of that line?
I think you need to cut this and put it at the end of your added lines.
Make sure it ends with a space character.

@TheEmperorsPointyStick
As with all things related to this file its hard to say what
will work and what wont. Short answer is I THINK its ok
to be at the end of a line, hit ENTER, and begin putting in
a new entry. However, from your example most people just
copy/paste a section from somewhere else and that should already
have the correct formatting i.e. spaces at the end of a line, double
spaces after the special 0's and so on. Just doing a quick read it
looks like you're doing the right thing, counting the characters in the
line, changing the number of factions when you add an entry, etc.

But, like I said, there's no knowing until you try it out. Best of luck.

[TheEmperorsPointyStick]

Thanks a bunch for your reply. I guess I'll have to find out the good ol' way - trial and error.
I'm not at all experienced in all those different file versions (mesh, sprite, texture, etc.). Can you tell me which of those (if any) I added is responsible for shield appearance (black with white cross)?

[KnightErrant]

To be honest I don't really know. I only started looking at this file last
Thursday and wrote the formatting script at lunchtime. This past weekend
I did my first unit add in following this tutorial (I added Scotland's noble
pikemen to England just for fun.) My very rudimentary understanding is
that the .mesh files define the shape or animation maybe of the figure,
the .texture file is what puts "the clothes" on, i.e. faction colors and symbols
maybe, and the .spr are the sprites, the tiny figures you see when the unit
is far away. My guess is that the stuff under the /AttachmentSets directory
might have something to do with shields (just judging from the name) but it
could equally well be their helmuts or lances, don't know. Interesting
experiment, take a screenie of the unit now and then change the
/AttachmentSets entry to something else and see what happens.

[misfitsfiend138]

hey i need help adding the norse axemen to england. im not sure how to add units with multiple armor upgrades, i only knw how to add units with no upgrades. can someone help me out.

[choooo1105]

Can someone help me to get the cossack musketeers for the byzantines? I have this so far


16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
18 cossack_musketeers
1 3
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod0.mesh 121
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod1.mesh 1225
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod2.mesh 6400
1
6 byzantium
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_russia.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_normal.texture
49 unit_sprites/russia_Cossack_Musketeers_sprite.spr
1
6 byzantium
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Musket
20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1
19 MTW2_Musket_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
22 cossack_musketeers_ug1 1 3
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1
6 byzantium
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_russia.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/russia_Cossack_Musketeers_ug1_sprite.spr
1
6 byzantium
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Musket
20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1
19 MTW2_Musket_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[KnightErrant]

I didn't check all your string lengths but right off
the bat the faction name byzantium is 9 characters
long so try changing all your
6 byzantium
faction entries to
9 byzantium
and see if the game loads.

[choooo1105]

no, didnt work

[KnightErrant]

Shoot! I pulled all your strings over to my editor
to check their count and they all seem ok, other
than byzantium which I assume you changed.
I've got to go to bed because of a meeting tomorrow,
could you post your latest section of the modeldb file
and I'll look at it tomorrow. (If someone else doesn't do
it first of course.) Sorry, best I can do right now.

[choooo1105]

I made the changes you recommended that is it, I am just trying to transfer the unit to the Byzantines. All I get on the battlefield is a metallic shadow. thanks for all the help. I placed the db file in data/unit_models



16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
18 cossack_musketeers
1 3
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod0.mesh 121
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod1.mesh 1225
66 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_lod2.mesh 6400
1
9 byzantium
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_russia.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_normal.texture
49 unit_sprites/russia_Cossack_Musketeers_sprite.spr
1
9 byzantium
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Musket
20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1
19 MTW2_Musket_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
22 cossack_musketeers_ug1 1 3
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
70 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/cossack_musketeers_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1
6 byzantium
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_russia.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/EE_Peasant_Leather/textures/mtw2_EE_Peasant_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/russia_Cossack_Musketeers_ug1_sprite.spr
1
6 byzantium
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European CB Gun_russia_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Musket
20 MTW2_Non_Shield_Fast 1
19 MTW2_Musket_Primary 1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[KnightErrant]

Hmmm, in your second code example I still see
6 byzantium
and not
9 byzantium
for the ug1 upgrade unit,
so I don't understand how you are even able to get
the game to load.

Anyway, if you are seeing silver guys it means the game is
seeing the meshes but not the texture files. I don't understand
why not because you didn't change anything there. I went back
through this tutorial but couldn't find what solution worked for other
peple. Sorry, I'm at work so I can't help much more right now.