How-To: Add other faction units for new factions

[Hans Kloss]

Milkshape license is not as expensive (around $20) and I find it much easier to handle then MAX Studio but still it is not a freeware tool.

[TWoxy]

Thanks for telling me, Hans.

[QuackyNC]

Alright so i added a couple units to the byzantines so i could play with them in the late era and not get my but kicked but anyway all the models work great and are perfect in the custom battle but when i play a campaign and play a battle the models dont show and the calvary units are just the horses with no riders, i dont understand why it works in the custom battle but no in the campaign when i play.

Could someone explain this???

[Hans Kloss]

I must say this is a bit strange. What units have you added and if you could please post examples of you EDU and BM entries

[QuackyNC]

Well nvm i went back and did everything again just to make sure, following the steps in this thread and it worked so nvm, im not sure what the heck happened guess i made some sort of error along the way.

[Methoz]

i want to make hussite handguners and game just crash

[Hans Kloss]

They might look better with muskets

[Methoz]

2 Hans Kloss - omg, looks ** but its unreal ...
i want to use hussite handguners mabye with pavise at back - i like genoese crossbowmen
how to change crossbow for gun ?

our hussites dont-use muskets ...

[Hans Kloss]

MESH convertor -Milkshape- MESH convertor

Pavise Crossbows with handguns - easily done but MTW2 handguns look like pieces of wood. Hussite's muskets can have all attributes of handguns, it only to use the model

[Methoz]

heh...thx ,but nothing for me

[Hans Kloss]

You would be wasting your time if you are trying to switch the weapons without using Milkshape. If you want I can try to make that new unit for you and upload it here - maybe not tonight but in couple of days

[OTZ]

Ok, so after being able to get a new unit into the game - an Auxiliary Longbowmen, I am having problems getting a unit Auxiliary Armored Sergeants in. They show up as the sivler/mercury looking fellows.
I am making them recruitable by the turks for now - so here is my EDU:

type Auxiliary Armored Sergeants
dictionary Auxiliary_Armored_Sergeants ; Auxiliary Armoured Sergeants
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Armored_Sergeants, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, schiltrom
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.6
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_8
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 6, metal
;stat_armour_ex 5, 7, 0, 0, 3, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 7, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 20
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 540, 155, 85, 65, 540, 4, 130
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Armored_Sergeants, Armored_Sergeants_ug1
ownership turks
;unit_info 7, 0, 14

I am pretty sure this is not the problem, sine I can recruit them as aux arm sergeants in custom battle...so here is my models entry. I cahnged the unit count to +1 as well since it is a new unit.

27 auxiliary_armored_sergeants
1 4
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod0.mesh 121
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod1.mesh 900
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod2.mesh 2500
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod3.mesh 6400
1
5 turks
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_smail_smail_rebels.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_smail_smail_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/slave_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug2_sprite.spr
1
5 turks
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_diff.texture
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
10 MTW2_Spear 0
2
18 MTW2_Spear_primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
21 armored_sergeants_ug1
1 4
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod1.mesh 900
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
1
5 turks
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_smail_smail_rebels.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_smail_smail_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/slave_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug3_sprite.spr
1
5 turks
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_diff.texture
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
10 MTW2_Spear 0
2
18 MTW2_Spear_primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002


Any ideas why they don't have skins in game?

[Hans Kloss]

OTZ

Change units textures to "en_lmail_hmail" - there are no "en_smail_smail_rebels" unless you are using custom ones.You would also need to either add Turks to "armored_sergeants_ug1" or change name of upgrade to "31 auxiliary_armored_sergeants_ug1"

27 auxiliary_armored_sergeants 
1 4 
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod0.mesh 121 
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod1.mesh 900 
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod2.mesh 2500 
61 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_lod3.mesh 6400 
1 
5 turks 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_rebels.texture 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/slave_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug2_sprite.spr 
1 
5 turks 
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_diff.texture 
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_norm.texture 0 
1 
4 None 
10 MTW2_Spear 0 
2 
18 MTW2_Spear_primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
31 auxiliary_armored_sergeants_ug1 
1 4 
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 
65 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/armored_sergeants_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 
1 
5 turks 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_rebels.texture 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/en_lmail_hmail_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/slave_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug3_sprite.spr 
1 
5 turks 
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_diff.texture 
56 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Kite_slave_norm.texture 0 
1 
4 None 
10 MTW2_Spear 0 
2 
18 MTW2_Spear_primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

EDU

type Auxiliary Armored Sergeants
dictionary Auxiliary_Armored_Sergeants ; Auxiliary Armoured Sergeants
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Auxiliary_Armored_Sergeants, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, schiltrom
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.6
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_8
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 6, metal
;stat_armour_ex 5, 7, 0, 0, 3, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 7, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 20
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 540, 155, 85, 65, 540, 4, 130
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Auxiliary_Armored_Sergeants, Auxiliary_Armored_Sergeants_ug1
ownership turks
;unit_info 7, 0, 14

PS

As usual serialization::archive number of units needs to increased (2 extra entries)

[OTZ]

Thanks for the help Hans! M3rc gave me a hand as well...I think I have this mastered pretty well now. I think I'll try my hand at textures next...

[J@mes]

A great tutorial i have a question on adding a unit to a custom faction i created i cloned the Byzantium faction and i where wondering what number i would have to use with this faction,

I.E

6 France
7 England

I'm quessing "9 Byzantium"?

Thanks James

[Hans Kloss]

Yes it should be "9 Byzantium"

[J@mes]

Thank you for the quick reply.

+rep

[Spartan Commander]

I have given up trying to figure this out on my own. Spent way too much time finding nothing wrong with the following code. I compared it to the code I posted below it which is working 100% fine.

What I was trying to do is add the venetian archers to the hre faction. Maybe if you look at the code long enough you miss the most obvious. I dunno.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

16 venetian_archers
1 3
66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_archers_lod0.mesh 121
66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_archers_lod1.mesh 1225
66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_archers_lod2.mesh 6400
2
6 venice
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_venice.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture
47 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Archers_sprite.spr
3 hre
78 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_hre.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture
44 unit_sprites/hre_Venetian_Archers_sprite.spr
2
6 venice
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_venice_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_venice_norm.texture 0
3 hre
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
11 MTW2_Bowman
15 MTW2_Non_Shield
1
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
20 venetian_archers_ug1
1 4
69 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_archers_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
69 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_archers_ug1_lod1.mesh 900
69 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_archers_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500
69 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
2
6 venice
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_venice.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Archers_ug1_sprite.spr
3 hre
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_mercs.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/hre_Venetian_Archers_ug1_sprite.spr
2
6 venice
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_venice_diff.texture
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_venice_norm.texture 0
3 hre
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
11 MTW2_Bowman
15 MTW2_Non_Shield
1
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
1
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002






Here is what is working without issues:

14 yeoman_archers
1 4
61 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_lod0.mesh 121
61 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_lod1.mesh 900
61 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_lod2.mesh 2500
61 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_lod3.mesh 6400
2
7 england
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_england.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_normal.texture
46 unit_sprites/england_Yeoman_Archers_sprite.spr
3 hre
68 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_hre.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_normal.texture
42 unit_sprites/hre_Yeoman_Archers_sprite.spr
2
7 england
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_diff.texture
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_norm.texture 0
3 hre
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Bowman
14 MTW2_Fast_Mace
2
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
18 yeoman_archers_ug1
1 4
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_ug1_lod1.mesh 900
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/yeoman_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
2
7 england
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_england.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/england_Yeoman_Archers_ug1_sprite.spr
3 hre
68 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_hre.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/LN_Peasant_Padded/textures/LN_peasant_normal.texture
46 unit_sprites/hre_Yeoman_Archers_ug1_sprite.spr
2
7 england
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_diff.texture
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_norm.texture 0
3 hre
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Bowman
14 MTW2_Fast_Mace
2
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
18 yeoman_archers_ug2
1 4
62 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/yeoman_archers_ug2_lod0.mesh 121
62 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/yeoman_archers_ug2_lod1.mesh 900
62 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/yeoman_archers_ug2_lod2.mesh 2500
62 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/yeoman_archers_ug2_lod3.mesh 6400
2
7 england
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_england.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/england_Yeoman_Archers_ug2_sprite.spr
3 hre
69 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_hre.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture
46 unit_sprites/hre_Yeoman_Archers_ug2_sprite.spr
2
7 england
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_diff.texture
69 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_england_norm.texture 0
3 hre
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Archer_hre_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
16 MTW2_Fast_Bowman
14 MTW2_Fast_Mace
2
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[Milos98]

44 unit_sprites/hre_Venetian_Archers_sprite.spr

There is no hre_Venetian_Archers_Sprite.spr

Try
47 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Archers_sprite.spr

[Spartan Commander]

There is if I copy/paste the file and rename it. I suppose there is no point in doing that but that's what I did.

I did the same thing with the English Yeoman archers and they work just fine.

I'm, for the upteenth time re-checking all file names...

All files re-checked and they all exist and all names are correct.

I just checked the spacing of all code and it it's fine. Something is missing...

The line count was wrong for some of the entries due to spaces being entered after _ after copy/pasting. Retarded since it was a copy/paste "from" the original file before even editing.

Anyway that is fixed.

I ran the Moding Tool to find this problem and correct it. Now the file just crashes the game when entering battle. Wonderful.

Here is the Moding Tool results:

--------Parsing Files--------
COMPACT_battle_models.modeldb generated
-----------------------------
[Info] Model aztec_captain has 4 animations.
[Info] Model aztec_general has 4 animations.
[Info] Model eastern_captain has 4 animations.
[Info] Model eastern_general has 4 animations.
[Info] Model northern_captain has 4 animations.
[Info] Model northern_general has 4 animations.
[Info] Model norman_general has 4 animations.
[Info] Model norman_king has 4 animations.
[Info] Model saxon_general has 4 animations.
[Info] Model saxon_king has 4 animations.
PARSED_battle_models.modeldb generated
-----------------------------
Number of Expected Models: 701
Number of Models parsed: 701
-----Validation Complete-----

Ok I changed my file to read only so it doesn't get messed with by STEAM. That let me get into battle with the unupgraded archers. Once I try the upgraded armor one it crashes.

This is what the log shows:

13:38:50.687 [system.io] [warning] open: data/unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_mercs.texture is missing
13:38:50.687 [system.io] [warning] open: data/unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_normal.texture is missing
13:38:52.640 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

Both files are there. They aren't my creation. Those are official files.

Figured out the problem....

data/unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_Brigandine_normal.texture is missing

must look like this in the file:

data/unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_normal.texture is missing

note the space.. oO

Why on God's green earth it needs to be like that I don't know. But I thought it was a screwup and took out the spaces before. I put them back and fixed the line counts and everything works.

Go figure.