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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    Irrelevant, it's true, and what really matters, Sweden have requested official explanation of Trump's fake news (the terrorist attack claims).
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    Reality check,Romania promised to take in 6,205 refugees over the next two years.
    Btw, the European quota system agreed in 2015 isn't a "massive migration", sharing 120,000 refugees between the EU countries.

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    No one can potentially be promoted to Sainthood due to importing Muslims en mass if you get what I mean...

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    No, you are not Ludicus, and that's a blatant lie.
    Portugal já recebeu mais de 700 refugiados (140 left the country, they are not prisoners -EU court backs refugees' free movement, in most cases)
    Even being nice and not disputing anything of what you imply, or not disputing your numbers, I hope you realize 560 refugees is a joke number compared to the challenges that North Europe/Central Europe have to face?
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    Remember when during the campaign, all the old man Donald supporters got told that the Muslim ban would be unconstitutional and be struck down by American courts, and they didn't accept it?

    I remember.

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    49 of 50 states determined it was legal. Washington and the 9th Circuit are just being idiotic.

    It's a stupid plan and it was executed moronically but its legal. The president has the power to bar foreigners from entering the US on any grounds.
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    So the president is a dictator with ultimate authority on everything, but only if he really wants to be and throws temper tantrums every which way? GG democracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maiar93 View Post
    So the president is a dictator with ultimate authority on everything, but only if he really wants to be and throws temper tantrums every which way? GG democracy
    Short of new legislation, the president is the ultimate authority on who may and who may not enter the United States. Congress gave him that power. They have not taken it away. The courts are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Short of new legislation, the president is the ultimate authority on who may and who may not enter the United States. Congress gave him that power. They have not taken it away. The courts are wrong.
    If it were that simple they wouldn't have gotten in trouble over green card holders. Hell if it were that simple there wouldn't be that much of a career for immigration lawyers that spend careers specializing in this because there's, you know, one line for immigration law, you know? Thing of it is, when they pissed their Order down onto paper and went "President has ultimate authority!" They forgot one thing, everybody granted permanent residence is not about a visa anymore and they have rights. Like a day in court. Where the courts can literally ask the President what the frak he was smoking when he signed the damn thing. Or if he even read it if he'd like to claim he wasn't high.

    You, sir, simplify things. And based on what we witnessed happen, based on their piss poor attempt at damage control, based on, well, everything, you should damn well know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    the 9th Circuit are just being idiotic.
    That's convenient! Reality check: the whole thing got smashed by the judiciary literally in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    49 of 50 states determined it was legal. Washington and the 9th Circuit are just being idiotic.

    It's a stupid plan and it was executed moronically but its legal. The president has the power to bar foreigners from entering the US on any grounds.
    Was there simultaneous court cases in every state where 49 of them determined the law to be legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    I hope you realize 560 refugees is a joke number compared to the challenges that North Europe/Central Europe have to face?
    (I hope your realize we are willing to accept 10,000). I hope you realize the fascistoid Hungary refuses to take refugees. Btw, Sweden threatens legal action againt Hungary
    [The] Commission has to ensure governments stick to agreements,' says migration minister
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    No one can potentially be promoted to Sainthood due to importing Muslims en mass if you get what I mean...
    No, I don't get what you mean by that. There is no "mass importation of Muslims". There are refugees quotas, that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    Was there simultaneous court cases in every state where 49 of them determined the law to be legal?
    47, by the way, if we assume just presumption of straight legality across them all. Minnesota was in on the case from the start and Hawaii was butting in, but couldn't in time before the courts shut the case down after the Administration announced its intent to rewrite the EO.

    And no, there wasn't simultaneous court cases in every state. There might have been one or two in others that disagreed with it, I'd have to look it up(and by 'look it up' i mean 'gawd deep search' because the washington case was god damn famous as to interfere with a search for anything else), and the interpretation in their respective districts could've hilariously varied based on the judges they got.
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