2017 terrorist attacks

[Heathen Hammer]

Exactly, and we should stick to that principle concerning followers of any ideology: judge individuals by their actions and not be irresponsible by fostering the notion that the whole group is guilty by association.

When it comes to certain aspects that individual cannot chose (such as race or gender), yes. That does not apply to cultural aspects, since people chose to be an adherent to a certain religious belief or ideology.

[Fourteen]

Away with your copy and paste excuses. One can infer you beliefs by your adherence to a particular statement coined by David Lane, a member of the white supremacist terrorist group known as The Order .This group was involved in the murder of the Jewish talk show host Alan Berg. I very much doubt if any Tommy fought for such values.


By the way is your adoption of the name allowed under the TOS, which presumably does not condone terrorism?

I will allow that David lane was a genuine white supremacist, but Richard Spencer is not, and neither am I. It is you who defends and supports the fascist muslim ideology, see my thread in the Ethos forum for details.

The terrorist attacks we are seeing in Western Europe will continue to be almost exclusively the work of people who identify as muslims, and will continue to be carried out in the name of Islam. As the muslim population grows larger these attacks will increase, both in terms of the number of attacks, and the number of casualties.

The current political situation in Britain limits our choice of government between labour and Tory. Both parties are deeply committed to allowing the muslim population to increase. I will leave to you the questions of why that is, and who those parties are really serving.


We need dramatic political change before we can deal with the muslim threat. In order to galvanise the British public into effecting that change we need something, some characteristic we have in common, to coalesce around. What will it be? Christianity? It would be a good option, but it unfortunately means nothing to most British people under 50. It has no grip on them, it has no connection to them. So what British characteristic remains with the capacity to bring us together to a large enough extent that we can effect genuine political change and truly deal with the threat?

It is going to be race. Because there is nothing else. Rudyard Kipling has already explained this to you in "the wrath of the Awakened Saxon".

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

[Ziltoid]

I dont know, looks to me more like the saxons are mostly just running away.

https://twitter.com/StockMonsterUSA/...22431559360512

[Muizer]

When it comes to certain aspects that individual cannot chose (such as race or gender), yes. That does not apply to cultural aspects, since people chose to be an adherent to a certain religious belief or ideology.

Cool. So I can convert to any religion or ideology and bomb some place in its name, and then anyone adhering to the religion or ideology will have to abandon it or be guilty by association.

[Fourteen]

I dont know, looks to me more like the saxons are mostly just running away.

https://twitter.com/StockMonsterUSA/...22431559360512

Correct. But as a group we have not awoken yet.

[Mithradates]

Cool. So I can convert to any religion or ideology and bomb some place in its name, and then anyone adhering to the religion or ideology will have to abandon it or be guilty by association.

If you and thousands of others would start to bomb places in its name, than yes.
People would start to suspect a connection.

[mongrel]

I will allow that David lane was a genuine white supremacist, but Richard Spencer is not, and neither am I..

And a convicted felon convicted and sentenced to 190 years in prison for racketeering, conspiracy, and for violating the civil rights of Alan Berg, a Jewish radio talk show host.
You promote his philosophy , so can safely leave it to the forum can draw their own inference as to whether your assertion can be believed



Who the is Richard Spencer? He is no more that a hoodie's , a spanking meme. Not sure why you continue bawling over this clown.

It is you who defends and supports the fascist muslim ideology, see my thread in the Ethos forum for details.

No such thing, any educated person would recognise that it is a major religion subdivided into a number of sects, not a singular entity. This old enough to have more sense would have tracked the evolving nature of conflict in the middle-east and beyond

Eurabia bollocks

Fairy tales for modern racists. What's wrong with the proper racism we knew in the 70s and 80s? Because today's racists, like Spencer haven't got the balls to tell it as it is, not even to hijack the Pepe meme. No respect for the lad.

Kipling explained nothing, I presume some racist nutjob website stole his work. Anyway , why would a proper native of these Isles, those of Celtic heritage, take advice from a Sacsanach?

If you and thousands of others would start to bomb places in its name, than yes.
People would start to suspect a connection.

I guess that's the end of Israel and the Irish Republic. I suppose you chose 1000s so that white supremacists can get a free pass?

I dont know, looks to me more like the saxons are mostly just running away.

https://twitter.com/StockMonsterUSA/...22431559360512

Anyone care to suggest what this was? I call fake otherwise. The only recent incident I can recall outside of demo was a minor riot over a death in custody, nothing to do with refugees as video suggests.

[Fourteen]

And a convicted felon convicted and sentenced to 190 years in prison for racketeering, conspiracy, and for violating the civil rights of Alan Berg, a Jewish radio talk show host.
You promote his philosophy , so can safely leave it to the forum can draw their own inference as to whether your assertion can be believed.

Many criminals throughout history have been great thinkers, we can appreciate their intellectual contribution through their writings without supporting their actions.

Who the is Richard Spencer? He is no more that a hoodie's , a spanking meme. Not sure why you continue bawling over this clown. .

He is currently one of the very most prominent and influential leaders of the far-right in the western world. You don't seem to understand that far-right does not mean Nazi.

No such thing, any educated person would recognise that it is a major religion subdivided into a number of sects, not a singular entity. This old enough to have more sense would have tracked the evolving nature of conflict in the middle-east and beyond.

Tell that to the million of people living in muslim countries who want nothing more than to escape from the tyranny of membership of islam, but cannot, because they will be executed.

Fairy tales for modern racists. What's wrong with the proper racism we knew in the 70s and 80s? Because today's racists, like Spencer haven't got the balls to tell it as it is, not even to hijack the Pepe meme. No respect for the lad.

The far-right has moved on from racism. The far-right of today is racialist in the sense that we recognise and acknowledge the profound differences between the races, but the racists are mostly not welcome within the movement, and are in any case so small in number they are not worth talking about.

Kipling explained nothing, I presume some racist nutjob website stole his work.

No theft, just acknowledgment that one of the giants of English literature recognised racial difference, and was willing to write in racialist terms. I happen to agree with him.

[mongrel]

He is currently one of the very most prominent and influential leaders of the far-right in the western world. You don't seem to understand that far-right does not mean Nazi.

Do I care about what label to pin on this racist git? He's a laughing stock, probably a target for another glittering.


Now for a Hellboy break.

Tell that to the million of people living in muslim countries who want nothing more than to escape from the tyranny of membership of islam, but cannot, because they will be executed..

1,634 people were executed in 25 countries in 2015. ...China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the USA – in that order. How the can apostates be killed in Azerbaijan, Bosnia, Djibouti, Gabon, Mauritius, Senegal, Uzbekistan and other Muslim countries that abolished the death penalty? Tell us. As for those genuinely in fear of their lives, for example Iran and Saudi above, we would call them asylum seekers, I trust that your concern is such that you would welcome them here. If your answer is no, presume yourself called out.

The far-right has moved on from racism. The far-right of today is racialist in the sense that we recognise and acknowledge the profound differences between the races, but the racists are mostly not welcome within the movement, and are in any case so small in number they are not worth talking about.

Racists not liking racists, pull the other one. The talking end of the alt-right movement are pussies, they need to be in order to beg for funding, it's the rest , the arse end, which cause the real damage.

No theft, just acknowledgment that one of the giants of English literature recognised racial difference, and was willing to write in racialist terms. I happen to agree with him.

He's not a racist, he's a colonialist something entirely different. This explains why grammar schools are needed.


I do note that you have nothing to say about real terrorism at all, other than provide daft excuses for one person who is accused of a terrorist murder. Is it coz he's............... I must ask why you are on this thread.

[Muizer]

If you and thousands of others would start to bomb places in its name, than yes.
People would start to suspect a connection.

You'll only know how representative they are when you take into account how many in total adhere to the ideology. You could have millions of islamic extremists on the loose and still the odds of any given muslim being an extremist would be so low you could not reasonably hold what those extremist do against him. That some, in the absence of convenient facts, then resort to interpreting Islamic scripture instead is really mental institution worthy IMHO.

Now if that does sound like me defending Islam, you're wrong. I am opposing people who seek to destroy our liberal, secular values and it so happens it's not the Jihadists who are here to argue against, so I'll focus on the islamphobes instead who in terms of damage potential make up for the jihadists fanaticism with numbers and ignorance.

[mongrel]

You'll only know how representative they are when you take into account how many in total adhere to the ideology. You could have millions of islamic extremists on the loose and still the odds of any given muslim being an extremist would be so low you could not reasonably hold what those extremist do against him. That some, in the absence of convenient facts, then resort to interpreting Islamic scripture instead is really mental institution worthy IMHO.

Now if that does sound like me defending Islam, you're wrong. I am opposing people who seek to destroy our liberal, secular values and it so happens it's not the Jihadists who are here to argue against, so I'll focus on the islamphobes instead who in terms of damage potential make up for the jihadists fanaticism with numbers and ignorance.

You make a good point. I can't remember the last time we have had anything a full blown Islamist on this forum. I recall there were a couple back in the day who were banned and rightly so. But nowadays all the newly radicalised people on this forum tend to be alt right. And they do and say the same thing over and over and over and zzzzzzzzz.

[Love Mountain]

Attacks on freedom and other people under the guise of security. Boy, where did we see that before?

[Fourteen]

You make a good point. I can't remember the last time we have had anything a full blown Islamist on this forum. I recall there were a couple back in the day who were banned and rightly so. But nowadays all the newly radicalised people on this forum tend to be alt right. And they do and say the same thing over and over and over and zzzzzzzzz.

It should not be a surprise that real islamist are few and far between here, they actually want to kill you, Mongrel, and are not concerned with scoring points on an internet forum. They rely on useful idiots on internet forums like this to defend their ideology and help serve as a cover for their actions, they do not actually post in places like this themselves.

[mongrel]

It should not be a surprise that real islamist are few and far between here, they actually want to kill you, Mongrel, and are not concerned with scoring points on an internet forum. They rely on useful idiots on internet forums like this to defend their ideology and help serve as a cover for their actions, they do not actually post in places like this themselves.

I don't recall anyone defending them, and there is no evidence of them being more than keyboard warriors. They were no loss.

[Iskar]

Ok, that is quite enough of the personal references and disruptive remarks. The discussion has veered off discussing actual terrorist attacks anyway, so we're closing this for now. You can discuss general issues of terrorism, far-right ideologies and racist worldviews in the Academy, and recent incidents in appropriately introduced Mudpit threads.

Thread closed until further notice.