Schiltrom CTD in archer-spearmen unit

[Beorn]

I successfully added a unit in FATW mod, giving it bows as the primary weapon and 2h spears secondary, assigning the fs_thp_f_spearman animation created by the EB team.
Now, I'm trying to add schiltrom formation to them, but I get a CTD. Here's the full report of the issue, determined by my tests link

and here's the EDU entry:

; COMMENTS Rhovanion Wardens / Professional / Superior / Northmen:Wildermen
type rhov warden
dictionary 4a_rhov_warden
category infantry
class missile
voice_type General_1
soldier 4a_rhov_warden, 30, 0, 1.2
mount_effect horse +6, elephant +2, chariot +2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hide_long_grass, hardy, is_peasant
formation 1, 1.2, 1.2, 1.4, 4, square, schiltrom
stat_health 1, 6
stat_pri 7, 1, arrow, 150, 20, missile, simple, piercing, none, 55, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 2, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 50, 0.75
stat_sec_attr light_spear, spear_bonus_6, short_pike
stat_pri_armour 12, 10, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 3, -2, -2, -2
stat_mental 8, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 1200, 220, 1, 425, 1100
ownership ostrogoths, slave

and the descr_model_battle

type 4a_rhov_warden
skeleton fs_archer, fs_thp_f_spearman
indiv_range 40
texture ostrogoths, bi/fatw/data/models_unit/textures/4a_rhov_warden.tga
texture slave, bi/fatw/data/models_unit/textures/4a_rhov_warden.tga
model_flexi bi/fatw/data/models_unit/4a_rhov_warden.cas,
model_sprite ostrogoths, 60.0, bi/fatw/data/sprites/ostrogoths_4a_dale_rider_sprite.
model_sprite slave, 60.0, bi/fatw/data/sprites/slave_4a_dale_rider_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5

does anyone know a way to possibly fix this issue?

[Anonymous_573462]

1. Do you use Rome Gold version or do you have Rome and BI seperately... If you don't have BI you can't use Schiltrom... I'm one of the few people (atleast no post regarding it) to get Rome gold to allow the cross-over.
2. What is your attempted method to get the formations over to RTW vanilla? (Assuming this is for vanilla and I partially assume your only changing the text to get the result you intend.)

[Beorn]

Sorry, I missed this post in the board malfunction

1. I've the Gold edition, patched up to date.

2. I use the FATW mod(for BI), and no, I haven't tried to import the unit in the vanilla RTW or BI, as I don't think it would make any difference.


The issue seems to be that schiltrom has to be paired with the short_pike attribute to work properly, in any other scenario the formation breaks itself and the units get slaughtered. With the short_pike attribute though, you are getting a CTD when the unit is trying to switch its status when bracing for engagement from "ready" to "fighting"

[Anonymous_573462]

I'm currently using RTWE 2.2.0 mod and the formations work. Run as administrator, compatible with windows 7 - You have to have no mod folder pre-linked and use the one from RTWE (E stands for enhanced btw) and then try to bridge your mod in-keeping with RTWE.

[Anonymous_573462]

Edit: "use the one from RTWE" use the run application given by RTWE

[Anonymous_573462]

I miss-read 2. sorry, if you're using BI I never took this route. I think short-pikes is hard coded for schiltrom

[Gen.jamesWolfe]

Yeah, even if you use BI, it won't work: you have to have the primary weapon be a spear (short_pike, specifically).

You can't have missiles for secondary weapons, so you're out of luck I'm afraid. :shrug:

[Anonymous_573462]

Size of shield matters with testudo... I haven't checked with schiltrom... smaller the shield the more likely you won't get a CTD