Alt-right neo-nazis to speak at Texas A&M University

[The Gurkhan]

He punched him and run away, so I don't see your point here. Spencer acted like a civilized individual, antifa acted like a rabid uncivilized ape. End of discussion.

Two examples have been provided showing men responding to the sort of provocation Dickie D***less Spencer faced. He behaved as a wimp. Nobody would think less of him if he fought back or chased the hoodlum. Nobody. He is being mocked for the very reason mongrel showed in the YouTube video with out takes from the belligerent speech he gave, as well the general supposedly anti-cuck world view he preaches to his catamite followers. Clearly he fell short.

I suspect this is what's triggered said followers......

[swabian]

I find your misunderstanding of constitutional freedoms hilarious. They're there to be protected from the government. Not another citizen. This is about a spat between two citizens and Spencer has stated he is going to file a complaint so an investigation is started. A citizen interfering with his interview has two things to do with the freedom of speech or the infringement thereof. Jack and .

Jack & beg to differ, to say the least:

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.[1][2][3][4] The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

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Society can and does execute its own mandates ... it practises a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...ill_1859_1-5-1

In light of how frequent politically motivated attacks carried out by left-wing extremists were, this incident clearly can be interpreted as applying to social control as a political force. Is it likely that the attacker is being persecuted on grounds of this addendum? No, but there is "hate crimes" for you to perform that.

[mongrel]

Two examples have been provided showing men responding to the sort of provocation Dickie D***less Spencer faced. He behaved as a wimp. Nobody would think less of him if he fought back or chased the hoodlum. Nobody. He is being mocked for the very reason mongrel showed in the YouTube video with out takes from the belligerent speech he gave, as well the general supposedly anti-cuck world view he preaches to his catamite followers. Clearly he fell short.

I suspect this is what's triggered said followers......

Exactly. In a deathmatch between him and Honey Boo Boo, my money's on the wee girl.

Spencer is not a National Socialist and does not align himself with Hitler.

If his organ advocated black genocide, he's a damned Nazi. Or are you suggesting that wiping out the black population would be of no consequence compared with Hitler's crimes.

Still not an answer to my first question.
This leads to the conclusion that mongrel is thinks it is perfectly acceptable for both criminals and the state to simply violate rights.

Merde he wrote. You and I know both know how this ends, police knocks on doors, man arrested tried and convicted. Nothing changes this immutable fact, even in this post-truth world. Doesn't mean that people can't draw some mild satisfaction from the event. You don't see me pretending this crime to be something else (see HH's excuses re the assault of wee asylum seekers). Neither do I hide my schaudenfreude.

Possibly an answer to my second.
People mongrel 'thinks' are 'extremists' should be 'put away'.
But, no, it does not look like you give a toss about 'rights' at all, just as with any nazi, fascist, communist or socialist totalitarian.
In fact, mongrel's views seem rather 'extreme'. By mongrel's standards mongrel should be 'put away'.

See above. When such scum stop talking about race wars, or, actually killing people in order to start one, then they might deserve more than being wiped off the bottom of my shoes.

[Heathen Hammer]

If his organ advocated black genocide, he's a damned Nazi.

The part of my post that you carefully omitted from quoting is asking you to source that.

Or are you suggesting that wiping out the black population would be of no consequence compared with Hitler's crimes.

Thousands of Africans and Indians fought alongside their German liberators against their Anglo-Saxon colonial oppressors. I guess that makes Hitler your hero.

[mongrel]

The part of my post that you carefully omitted from quoting is asking you to source that.

Source what,that he's a damned Nazi, or that Alternative Right published an article called "Is Black Genocide Right"?

Thousands of Africans and Indians fought alongside their German liberators against their Anglo-Saxon colonial oppressors. I guess that makes Hitler your hero.

Liberation my arse.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article...uleId=10005479
Black holocaust denial is much the same as Jewish Holocaust denial, notwithstanding and respecting that the Nazis prioritised Jews.

BTW that link you gave re the poop phage mentions the "Jewish Problem" and a "race war". Is this the kind of material you should be reading, or indeed sharing with the forum?

[Cyclops]

Spencer is not a National Socialist and does not align himself with Hitler.....

There's a video of him saying "Hail Trump" and "Hail Victory", if you think he isn't explicitly referencing Nazism and employing its tropes you may need to do some background reading.

I'm sure that all the dead allied soldiers would beg to differ....

Hitler and his unintellectual rabble of crooks provoked wars with the four largest states on Earth. German weakness meant defeat was inevitable. Its almost like Hitler invited the Russians in to expel all Germans from the old Prussian lands. There's a lot of cheap pop psych about Nazism and how sick in the mind these evil criminals were, but surely there's some work to be done on Nazi Germany's desire for utter humiliation.

I am unsure why you are relishing mentioning allied soldiers who died, their sacrifice was to liberate Germany and the rest of Europe from the sickness of Hitlerism.

Anyone who consciously references these monsters and beasts in public (inciting sad puppets to jerk their arms around like the warped deviant Hitler) incites disgust from normal humans. Perhaps freedom of speech allows behaviour like this (or like yelling obscenities at small children or other revolting behaviour), but a punch in the face is fairly predictable response to something so ignoble and base.

[fkizz]

If Nazis were such monsters, how come Operation Valkyria (and 20 July Plot) was designed by the higher ups and almost came true? It's an evil paradox.

[Heathen Hammer]

Source what,that he's a damned Nazi, or that Alternative Right published an article called "Is Black Genocide Right"?

Source what you claimed - that Spencer advocated for genocide of Africa-American population.

Liberation my arse.

Truth is, Africans in Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were treated like equals, while allies treated the non-white soldiers in their armies as second-class.

There's a video of him saying "Hail Trump" and "Hail Victory", if you think he isn't explicitly referencing Nazism and employing its tropes you may need to do some background reading.

Um, what? Expression "Hail" <insert what one is hailing> existed long before Hitler was born. Again, Spencer is not a National-Socialist.

Hitler and his unintellectual rabble of crooks provoked wars with the four largest states on Earth. German weakness meant defeat was inevitable. Its almost like Hitler invited the Russians in to expel all Germans from the old Prussian lands. There's a lot of cheap pop psych about Nazism and how sick in the mind these evil criminals were, but surely there's some work to be done on Nazi Germany's desire for utter humiliation.

I am unsure why you are relishing mentioning allied soldiers who died, their sacrifice was to liberate Germany and the rest of Europe from the sickness of Hitlerism.

Anyone who consciously references these monsters and beasts in public (inciting sad puppets to jerk their arms around like the warped deviant Hitler) incites disgust from normal humans. Perhaps freedom of speech allows behaviour like this (or like yelling obscenities at small children or other revolting behaviour), but a punch in the face is fairly predictable response to something so ignoble and base.

Blah blah blah.
Nobody is advocating for return to National-Socialism here, so I don't see why you had to type three paragraphs of strawman argument here. Not to mention that it is a commonly accepted fact that Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were better trained and organized then allied armies, who only won due to having more resources and more manpower. Which is offtopic, so if you want to continue humiliating yourself by showing your lack of knowledge on the subject, you are more then free to do so in the history sub-section of Discussion & Debate forum.
Point is that Spencer is not a National-Socialist, and even if he was (which he isn't), US Constitution guarantees freedom of expression and freedom of speech.

Essentially, all you are doing is advocating fascism on this forum.

If Nazis were such monsters, how come Operation Valkyria (and 20 July Plot) was designed by the higher ups and almost came true? It's an evil paradox.

Hey you, now stop disrupting Progressive Liberal Idealism with your pesky evil facts!

[mongrel]

Source what you claimed - that Spencer advocated for genocide of Africa-American population.

I said his site did. Only a Nazi would allow such to be published.

Truth is, Africans in Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were treated like equals, while allies treated the non-white soldiers in their armies as second-class.

The truth is that defenceless black civilians were sterilsed tortured and murdered. Your holocaust denial is disgusting.

Um, what? Expression "Hail" <insert what one is hailing> existed long before Hitler was born. Again, Spencer is not a National-Socialist.

Not within this obvious political context. What next,black swatstikas in a white circle on a red flag isn't a Nazi flag? KKK doessn't exist, their robes are a consequence of having to wear bedsheets because they are poor? Pathetic.

Nobody is advocating for return to National-Socialism here, so I don't see why you had to type three paragraphs of strawman argument here.

Spencer does, as does that link you shared with us.

Allied armies, who only won due to having more resources and more manpower.

It does help when your soldiers aren't tied down killing Jews, villagers etc. You sound that you are sorry that they lost.

US Constitution guarantees freedom of expression and freedom of speech.

That includes freedom to laugh and gloat

If Nazis were such monsters, how come Operation Valkyria (and 20 July Plot) was designed by the higher ups and almost came true? It's an evil paradox.

Self-interest. Death by hanging or stop the war wthe hope of compromise? Not a difficult choice.

[Heathen Hammer]

I said his site did. Only a Nazi would allow such to be published.

So give us a link to an article form his site then.

The truth is that defenceless black civilians were sterilsed tortured and murdered. Your holocaust denial is disgusting.

Acknowledging the fact that non-white soldiers in Wehrmacht and SS were not discriminated based on their race, while non-white soldiers in allied armies were isn't "holocaust denial" in any way, shape or form.
Non-whites were sterilized, tortured and murdered in "democratic" countries that were part of the Allies. But we get it, you think that keeping Africans literally in zoos until 1950s was perfectly acceptable. Are you proud of Britain mass-murdering natives in its colonies?

Not within this obvious political context. What next,black swatstikas in a white circle on a red flag isn't a Nazi flag? KKK doessn't exist, their robes are a consequence of having to wear bedsheets because they are poor? Pathetic.

Saying "hail something" doesn't mean you are a National-Socialist, just like calling someone comrade doesn't make you a communist. You are grasping at some desperate straws here.

Spencer does, as does that link you shared with us.

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Except that Spencer does not adhere to National-Socialism, as you have continuously failed to prove otherwise.

It does help when your soldiers aren't tied down killing Jews, villagers etc. You sound that you are sorry that they lost.

Nah, allied countries were racist, practiced eugenics, and they killed plenty of native population in their colonies.
But we get it, you only dislike Germans because you think it is only acceptable to mass-murder non-white people...
Your promotion of white supremacy views is disturbing.

That includes freedom to laugh and gloat

And here we are, gloating at delusional globalists being crushed in democratic elections, while you are celebrating the fact that a man was attacked for expressing his opinion.

Self-interest. Death by hanging or stop the war wthe hope of compromise? Not a difficult choice.

Motivations get often confused later in history, for example we often forget that white supremacist Abraham Lincoln ended slavery as a part of his master plan to purge North America of its African population.

[Gaidin]

I didn't say they should be enforced by citizens.

Except for, you know, assaulting people because of their political views.

Find the law that says charges cannot be filed due to punching neo-nazis being legal. That would be, you know, the government interfering with the Freedom of Speech. Instead of another civilian socking him.

Stop connecting the dots on how the Bill of Rights works incorrectly. You are really embarrassing both yourself and your high school teachers.

[Heathen Hammer]

Find the law that says charges cannot be filed due to punching neo-nazis being legal. That would be, you know, the government interfering with the Freedom of Speech. Instead of another civilian socking him.

Stop connecting the dots on how the Bill of Rights works incorrectly. You are really embarrassing both yourself and your high school teachers.

Um, what? You seem to have quoted my post, but the incoherent rambling you put together has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

[Gaidin]

Um, what? You seem to have quoted my post, but the incoherent rambling you put together has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

Your post:

Again, we find infringement on constitutional freedoms unacceptable, be it committed by a state authority or just some antifa junkie. You seem to find it acceptable, because in your mind it is okay to assault people based on their "incorrect" views. That is all. And now you are hiding behind "well, it-it-its just a joke guyz!", because you were called out on it.

The actual right:

Congress shall make no law respecting...or abridging the freedom of speech... or the right of the people peaceably to assemble....

All current law points to the person who punched Spencer being at minimum charged with assault of some class unless there is a standing law making assault of a class of citizens legal, especially if they are speaking about certain topics. Because you don't seem to grasp the nature of the right, I've bolded the part nobody wants to understand. Citizens can throw mud at each other all day. But the Government's actions are limited by the Right. They may not pass law abridging freedom of speech(though the court has found it can in certain classes of speech). And in fact they are in this case required to take action in his support. Why? Because assault.

The citizens may throw mud at each other all day, but the right is a wall between the government and the citizens. Until a citizen crosses a line that may or may not have a damn thing to do with the right at all. Like assault.

Freedom of speech is god damned safe. Your ability to strawman the first amendment and have me prove you wrong is not going to be cut off by a law enforcement raid because you're wrong this evening.

[mongrel]

So give us a link to an article form his site then.

Here's the archive. I'm surprised you asked, haven't you read it?


http://www.thephora.net/forum/archiv...p/t-80359.html

Acknowledging the fact that non-white soldiers in Wehrmacht and SS were not discriminated based on their race, while non-white soldiers in allied armies were isn't "holocaust denial" in any way, shape or form.
Non-whites were sterilized, tortured and murdered in "democratic" countries that were part of the Allies. But we get it, you think that keeping Africans literally in zoos until 1950s was perfectly acceptable. Are you proud of Britain mass-murdering natives in its colonies?

Britain did no such thing in WW2. America had a segregration policy, as did South Africa, but guess what , I'm known to spoken out about that. But neither country hadan official policy of eradicating whole peoples on the grounds of a racist mythology. Your holocaust denial continues to disgust me.

Saying "hail something" doesn't mean you are a National-Socialist, just like calling someone comrade doesn't make you a communist. You are grasping at some desperate straws here.

In a war film no, in a political rally, absolutely.
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Except that Spencer does not adhere to National-Socialism, as you have continuously failed to prove otherwise.

We laugh at that assertion.

Nah, allied countries were racist, practiced eugenics, and they killed plenty of native population in their colonies.
But we get it, you only dislike Germans because you think it is only acceptable to mass-murder non-white people...
Your promotion of white supremacy views is disturbing.

There is a distinction between repressing peoples and wiping them out in their entirety. Your holocaust denial again disgusts me.

And here we are, gloating at delusional globalists being crushed in democratic elections, while you are celebrating the fact that a man was attacked for expressing his opinion.

Not celebrating as such.I would rather the asswipe repented of his sins. My joy is based on pure shaudenfreude.

Motivations get often confused later in history, for example we often forget that white supremacist Abraham Lincoln ended slavery as a part of his master plan to purge North America of its African population.

Did he advocate their genocide? No would be the answer.

Who else is totally shocked that ISIS sympathizers in this thread also oppose Trump?

See, we can play this game too.

There are no ISIS supporters on this forum . There are good reasons for that. It is illegal to support said people, only the deranged would, anyone with these traits would be permabanned for sure.



I heard Spencer left the inauguration ball early. He heard the host was bringing out the punch.

[mongrel]

Interesting point made in the Observer.

For his part, Spencer told The New York Times the attack made him fearful to even go out to dinner. While no one should be deprived of a good meal, if this ordeal gives him second thoughts about leaving the house with the purpose of organizing white nationalists, then Jews and other minorities are going to be a little safer. And if the video of Spencer’s throttling means one of his followers decides not to spray paint a swastika on a synagogue for fear of retribution, it benefits enlightened democratic society.

http://observer.com/2017/01/do-punch...chard-spencer/

Poor Nazi

[Cyclops]

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Um, what? Expression "Hail" <insert what one is hailing> existed long before Hitler was born. Again, Spencer is not a National-Socialist.

...no he just uses Nazi slogans, and grins with glee when puppets give the Nazi salute. inB4 some rubbish retort "its a Roman salute dontchaknow".

blah blah blah.

About the most compelling point in your post.

Nobody is advocating for return to National-Socialism here, so I don't see why you had to type three paragraphs of strawman argument here. Not to mention that it is a commonly accepted fact that Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were better trained and organized then allied armies, who only won due to having more resources and more manpower. Which is offtopic, so if you want to continue humiliating yourself by showing your lack of knowledge on the subject, you are more then free to do so in the history sub-section of Discussion & Debate forum.

Personal insults? Concession accepted. BTW starting wars with enemies who have more resources and manpower is a form of suicide. Why did Hitler want "his" people ravaged so badly?

You might boast at the technical superiority of German forces, they have nothing to do with the Nazi Party whose military contribution was the brownshirt smashers of windows and beaters of old people (such cowardly scum that they were). Prussian military tradition was established by Frederick the Great (a Francophone and Francophile) and confirmed by the French inspired reforms of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Basically when Prussia adopted French ways they became a power: it is normal for "purebreds" to be weak and feeble, it is the vigorous mongrels (like Britain and the US and the Soviets) that achieve greatness.

Point is that Spencer is not a National-Socialist, and even if he was (which he isn't), US Constitution guarantees freedom of expression and freedom of speech.

This twit is referencing Nazi tropes, and publishing articles advocating genocide. Yammering on that he doesn't hold an NSDAP membership card is OT, he's a Nazi sycophant in that he apes the forms and publishes beliefs consonant with that vile and lowly movement.

As for the US political system, yes he has the right to be and :wub: (and boy does he exercise it), but there's no requirement for me to be sorry for him.

Essentially, all you are doing is advocating fascism on this forum.

Misdirected white knighting from you: nowhere have I suggested he should be banned or otherwise exempt from democratic rights. Its nonsensical to fling this stupid insult at people chortling at an ass who has been punched out for jabbering his sad sick outdate rubbish. Fascism is notable for its lack of humour, its a grim sad sadistic philosophy for defeated clowns with a murder-boner. This is healthy laughter at a twerp sat on his arse. By a sex slave. Geez I hope the puncher washed his hands.

If Nazis were such monsters, how come Operation Valkyria (and 20 July Plot) was designed by the higher ups and almost came true? It's an evil paradox.

Hey you, now stop disrupting Progressive Liberal Idealism with your pesky evil facts!

"Facts". "Paradox" . MFW when you can't distinguish the Nazi party from the Wehrmacht.

The "higher ups" in the German Army successfully imposed the criminal Hitler on Germany, then failed to remove him. Indeed they only began to try to kill him once their evil frenzy of surprise attacks and killing civilians had stalled and it became apparent there would be war crimes trials. Weakness and moral cowardice of the highest order, everyone who cooperated with the Nazis was stained by the evil association.

[mongrel]

.Misdirected white knighting from you: nowhere have I suggested he should be banned or otherwise exempt from democratic rights. Its nonsensical to fling this stupid insult at people chortling at an ass who has been punched out for jabbering his sad sick outdate rubbish. Fascism is notable for its lack of humour, its a grim sad sadistic philosophy for defeated clowns with a murder-boner. This is healthy laughter at a twerp sat on his arse. By a sex slave. Geez I hope the puncher washed his hands.

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There are some who don't fully appreciate how punchable this specific Nazi is. After all it is not that long ago that 9 people were martyred at prayer because of , as you said, this sick, outdated outrageous bollocks- that black people must suffer in order for white people to prosper.


However in the spirit of modern American politics, may I suggest that Spencer wasn't assaulted at all, he was in fact offered alternative physical contact.

[Tiberios]

Comments about other users, and that includes portraying other users as Nazi/ISIS supporters, is off-topic. Please keep this in mind and keep the discussion on topic.

[Heathen Hammer]

Not gonna make a giant post, so I will just debunk some of the non-factual claims posted by our anti-Trump friends here:
- Spencer does not adhere to National-Socialism in any way, shape, or form. He may have borrowed from certain European aesthetics that were used before, during and after NSDAP rule, but are not associated with such by anyone who has any clue about European culture.
- Spencer never advocated genocide. Not surprised that link posted by mongrel has nothing to do with Spencer, and the link to the alleged article form alt-right site isn't working, as long as google search only leads to the link mongrel posted. Fake news much?
- Allied countries were just as racist as Germany was. Only difference being that Germany mass-murdered other Europeans, while allies were mainly mass-murdering non-white population in their colonies, along with civilian population in Europe and Pacific being firebombed. Acknowledging allied war crime is not "holocaust denial" in any way, shape or form, and if anyone wants to argue in regards to WW2 they are more then welcome to do so in history sub-section of this forum.
- Calling people "punchable" or approving of using violence against people due to their political views is as close to being "Nazi" as it gets.

[mongrel]

Spencer advocates beliefs and behaviours which any reasonable personable would recognise as akin to that displayed by Nazis. Referring to the collateral damage inflicted by necessary and succesful Allied operations does not excuse the Holocaust and other crimes commited by racialist nationalism.

Spencer edited the Alternative Right site, so was therefore responsible for publishing a call for black genocide. I said the remaining source was an archive. There are sufficient verifiable googlable sources, mainstream news items and far-right and anti-fascist sources which verify its origin , Allternativeright.com. Readers themselves need not rely on your lies.They can see for themselves.

Calling such scum punchable is as nothing as suggesting that whole Burmese tribes are killable.


The punch symbolises one thing, enough of this evasive crap. If Nazis are going to tell their own to attack others,or even to advocate wiping them out completely, and plead to normal people that they are peaceful, there is no point debating their viewpoint, they need controlling as the menace to society they are. Some people prefer alternative physical contact, its wrong, but on this occaision can be bloody funny.