Alt-right neo-nazis to speak at Texas A&M University

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

There is no way to deal with it, he has free speech and will use it.
I already told you what to do: refute the argument!

[mrmouth]

I already told you what to do: refute the argument!

Very hard to do when you cannot rely on numbers and/or facts.

I think I'd rather watch this guy get punched, and the mental gymnastics needed to justify it, than watch the puncher or any of his defenders try and debate their stance on issues. I guess I should feel fortunate that it rarely happens.

[Sir Pignans]

Punching people who disagree with you is wrong. I mean, doesn't get simpler than that really. No ifs, no buts.

[mongrel]

There is no way to deal with it, he has free speech and will use it.
I already told you what to do: refute the argument!

He's a punchable racist arse, refute that.

I think I'd rather watch this guy get punched, and the mental gymnastics needed to justify it, than watch the puncher or any of his defenders try and debate their stance on issues. I guess I should feel fortunate that it rarely happens.

I made my point clear, 'neither legal nor justifiable in any conventional sense.But he nonetheless had it coming beacause hes a and that amuses me. Mental gymnastics simply not required.

[Sir Pignans]

He's a punchable racist arse, refute that.

Well I mean, that's easy. Just cause someone is punchable, doesn't mean you should punch them, what happens when they turn that logic around on you?

[mongrel]

Well I mean, that's easy. Just cause someone is punchable, doesn't mean you should punch them, what happens when they turn that logic around on you?

I'm not punching them. Nor do I recommend it. I am however admiring the puncher's artistic skill. No danger of that wuss punching back either. More concerned that gullable rednecks believe his shite and start a shooting spree in a mosque.....whoops its already happened.

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

That's not even an argument. I'm not wasting my time on you anymore. Lord knows I've spent more than the recommended amount of time 'debating' you. You could have just said you weren't going to take this seriously.

[mongrel]

That's not even an argument. I'm not wasting my time on you anymore. Lord knows I've spent more than the recommended amount of time 'debating' you. You could have just said you weren't going to take this seriously.

You wasted your time a lot earlier, by not getting the simple fact that racism is a social disease in itself Which class of racist he is has no bearing to his level of punchabilty. How hard can be?

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

I don't even mongrel... what are you going on about?
At what point did I say that racism was a good thing?
You're the one who is missing the point. But you don't care, just going in circles and ignoring the arguments of others. Do you even know what refutation is? Or do you respond to the arguments that you think people make rather than what their actual arguments are?

Also you are blaming Richard Spencer for someone shooting up a mosque. Did you ever observe Richard Spencer telling people to shoot up a mosque? If no then that is a conspiracy theory unsupported by facts...

[mongrel]

I don't even mongrel... what are you going on about?
At what point did I say that racism was a good thing?
You're the one who is missing the point. But you don't care, just going in circles and ignoring the arguments of others. Do you even know what refutation is? Or do you respond to the arguments that you think people make rather than what their actual arguments are?

Also you are blaming Richard Spencer for someone shooting up a mosque. Did you ever observe Richard Spencer telling people to shoot up a mosque? If no then that is a conspiracy theory unsupported by facts...

Stilll not getting it, Spencer buddy. As far as I am concerned your views are not relevant either , there is no debate about whether you are punchable, or otherwise, it is about whether a specific racist prick is punchable. I can't be held into account for you not seeing the obvious.


Also do Spencer and other professional racists , Trump included, need to give racist loons and sundry gun nuts prmission to go off on a shooting spree? Surely in the minds of a racist/isslaamophobe nutter, the messaage itself that the black or brown man is inherently dangerous and inferior , and will take over the white man's culture/women/land unless something is done now, provides sufficient grounds for murder in their tiny little minds.

[Sir Pignans]

I am however admiring the puncher's artistic skill. No danger of that wuss punching back either.

So you admire violence?

[mongrel]

So you admire violence?

The Battle of Cannae is an exquisite example of applied violence. This is a site dedicated to games specialising in warfare, or have you not noticed? I sense a whiff of hypocrisy here. Next.

[Sir Pignans]

The Battle of Cannae is an exquisite example of applied violence. This is a site dedicated to games specialising in warfare, or have you not noticed? I sense a whiff of hypocrisy here. Next.

I don't admire violence, I enjoy it. Punching someone who deserves it is undoubtedly satisfying and fun (that doesn't mean you should). I also respect military ability, and I enjoy role playing in historical/fantastical scenarios to a certain extent. I do not however, admire violence.

[HannibalExMachina]

"I don't admire violence, I enjoy it."

no one enjoys violence once being its target, but people like spencer promote it, and would very much enjoy to target other with it. violence is inherent in defending against it, and its kinda short sighted to argue that its fine as long as you dont have to defend yourself.

promoting violence is always the first step necessary before you can actually commit violence on any level beyond individual violence. what follows? dont allow spencer to promote violence, and then you can stop using double standards in his defence. as long as people are allowed to promote violence without legal repercussions, how are we to deal with it by legal, non-violent means?

fascists are using the perceived weaknesses of democray in societal conduct as convient loopholes. so, stop free speech being exploited as such a loophole. someone doesnt play by the rules, why should they benefit of the rules?

all criminals use the same loophole, but being criminals means there are laws which seek to prevent or at least punish their conduct. spencer is just a like criminal exploiting the fact that there are no laws to prevent him.

[IronBrig4]

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After the mosque shooting the other day, Spencer started complaining about mosques in Quebec. This is why he's so punchable. And the shooter was a Canadian white nationalist too. Since people like Spencer serve as a rally point for angry, racist white men, he deserves an ass-kicking. Once again, one should not deliver him said ass-kicking because it's unlawful. But he still deserves one.

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

I'll rant about mosques in Quebec right now. Some mosque getting shot by a White boy doesn't mean that Montreal has no problems with Islam. They have a Wahhabi mosque, but that is invalid because a White boy shot up a mosque and then Richard Spencer ranted about mosques the day after.

[HannibalExMachina]

if only someone had refuted his arguments, im sure he wouldnt have attacked people his ideology tells him to hate.

[Sir Pignans]

racism is a social disease in itself

No, it is an opinion. An opinion which in mine is completely and utterly false, but it is still an opinion. And we do not punch people for opinions.

[Cyclops]

No, it is an opinion. An opinion which in mine is completely and utterly false, but it is still an opinion. And we do not punch people for opinions.

Who's we? Society is made of many people with many views. "We" are no more responsible for the puncher with his weird sexuality (sorry its true) than for the weird haircut guy getting off on being edgily saluted by Nazi wannabes to impress his absent father (sorry but its true).

This isn't a serious political point, the guy who got hit is as much of a joke as the guy who hit him. Its an unsavoury drunk fight in a dumpster full of piss, no one's rights have been trampled.

[mongrel]

No, it is an opinion. An opinion which in mine is completely and utterly false, but it is still an opinion. And we do not punch people for opinions.

Jimmy Saville also had an opinion on childcare. Why entertain an opinion that drives people who should know better to persecute or even murder others for no reason? Or indeed bore us with their bigotry on this very forum?That is why he is punchable.

This isn't a serious political point, the guy who got hit is as much of a joke as the guy who hit him. Its an unsavoury drunk fight in a dumpster full of piss, no one's rights have been trampled.

Fair comment.


Islamophobe calls for a terrorist attack on a Mosque. Free speech, or an arrest warrant? In my view he or she should be doing time for this.