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    It shall be taken by a guy from MTWII gaming group

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    btw, just to be clear, you dont have to be emperor to ban factions, you can do that as king, right? wouldnt make sense otherwise, since the difference is more symbolic than anything else.

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    Jadli I said I would propose to make a Video if the ressources are decent
    got a little bit of video making skills, im not a pro but I think I could make something enjoyable. not great but enjoyable

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina View Post
    btw, just to be clear, you dont have to be emperor to ban factions, you can do that as king, right? wouldnt make sense otherwise, since the difference is more symbolic than anything else.
    The Roman king can also declare war upon unworthy vassals. But he cant destroy them, the war will have the same outcomes as "Rebellion", only Emperor can declare ban to destroy the faction.



    Quote Originally Posted by StOuFf View Post
    Jadli I said I would propose to make a Video if the ressources are decent
    got a little bit of video making skills, im not a pro but I think I could make something enjoyable. not great but enjoyable

    There will be lotta stuff posted in threads, so it should be enough


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    The Roman king can also declare war upon unworthy vassals. But he cant destroy them, the war will have the same outcomes as "Rebellion", only Emperor can declare ban to destroy the faction.

    eh, fair enough, i guess some escalation is called for. just rp wise, were still calling it ban if the king does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina View Post
    The Roman king can also declare war upon unworthy vassals. But he cant destroy them, the war will have the same outcomes as "Rebellion", only Emperor can declare ban to destroy the faction.

    eh, fair enough, i guess some escalation is called for. just rp wise, were still calling it ban if the king does it?
    I was trying to find proper word for that, but im kinda clueless right now. Any ideas?

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    just keep it, the empire doesnt go away bc there was no coronation by the pope yet. just specify that only the emperor can disband factions. thinking about it, that may be appropriate, since emperor friedrich barbarossa basically disolved the stem duchy of saxony, on account of the welfs being too powerful. another interesting precedent here is that the welf henry the lion ruled both bavaria and saxony by inheritance, and bc the emperor wanted to make up with his family (he was also related to the emperor), would be interesting if something like that happend in this HS.
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    So Venice and Milan count as HRE faction or not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina View Post
    just keep it, the empire doesnt go away bc there was no coronation by the pope yet
    We will have to appoint antipope then

    And yes, it was kinda unclear in medieval, but lets keep Venice and Milan HRE factions

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    milan would definitely be considered part of the empire. venice is more complicated, but they pretty much sided with the emperor on a lot of occasions, even if they wouldnt consider themselves his subjects.

    now, should they be part of the whole election thing? rather not, esp not venice, but if lombardy achieves a certain status, we might run with that. they were welfs like the duke of bavaria (the incumbent duke is the son of the milan FL), so who knows, they might claim bavaria....
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    Well, every player that is vassal of HRE should have the right to participate in elections...

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    well, doesnt vassal imply they shouldnt? the republic of venice def wouldnt, and the election is for the king of the german(s)(part of the empire), and lombardy is part of italy. this isnt an election for emperor.

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    By voting The Roman King you possibly vote also The Emperor. You are making fair points from the historical aspect, but as I said, all HRE players should have the right to vote. Unless you convince more ppl to support it, Ill not change it

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    fiiiine.

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    buuut, what if we allow milan to claim the italian kingship and become emperor instead? thatll set them against the hre, but we could allow it if they have support there, or too much internal conflict creates a vacany for too long?

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    When is this going to start?

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    Jadli says you haven't got the other guy, still up for it if you haven't found someone else

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    Yaaay! I think we are all present then

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    Just one question, what happens if an independent kingdom becomes ruler of a HRE vassal faction through blood alliance, for example there is a starting blood alliance between Bohemia and Poland. Thus in real life the King of Poland becomes the Duke of Bohemia, does he as an independent king have to obey all the rules for HRE vassal factions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackWolf View Post
    Just one question, what happens if an independent kingdom becomes ruler of a HRE vassal faction through blood alliance, for example there is a starting blood alliance between Bohemia and Poland. Thus in real life the King of Poland becomes the Duke of Bohemia, does he as an independent king have to obey all the rules for HRE vassal factions?
    I imagine that Bohemia would become a part of Poland, but would still remain a de jure duchy in the HRE. Thus the emperor/king can have a claim on Bohemia and could start a war to return it to the Empire xD

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