Why does the far-right only care about terrorism when brown people do it?

[Enros]

In the thread I started about the Nice attacks, several posters are calling for the deportation everyone with ancestry from a Muslim country. That's what they think of a group that kills a few thousand people.

Over 34,000 people commit suicide in the USA each year. Due to homophobia, LGBT people in the USA are four times more likely than straight people to commit suicide. Let's pick a low estimate for the prevalence of LGBT people in society: 5%. Doing the math, these 5% account for 18% of the suicides. That's 6,120 LGBT suicides per year. If there was no homophobia, there would only 1520 LGBT suicides per year. Homophobia kills about 4,590 LGBT people in the USA every year. This figure more than doubles if you include other developed countries. In contrast, Al Qaeda has killed about 4,400 since it was started in 1988. Why aren't these same people calling for the deportation of homophobes?

Neoconservatives began an orgy of violence in Iraq that killed more Americans than Al Qaeda, and 150,000 Iraqis. Why aren't there calls for interventionists to be deported?

Muslims are small fry compared to the real mass murderers in our society. You claim you feel strongly about stopping murder. Why don't you care about the big fish?

[Greyblades]

Because the Far-left only care about terrorism when white people do it.

[Humble Warrior]

In the thread I started about the Nice attacks, several posters are calling for the deportation everyone with ancestry from a Muslim country. That's what they think of a group that kills a few thousand people.

Over 34,000 people commit suicide in the USA each year. Due to homophobia, LGBT people in the USA are four times more likely than straight people to commit suicide. Let's pick a low estimate for the prevalence of LGBT people in society: 5%. Doing the math, these 5% account for 18% of the suicides. That's 6,120 LGBT suicides per year. If there was no homophobia, there would only 1520 LGBT suicides per year. Homophobia kills about 4,590 LGBT people in the USA every year. This figure more than doubles if you include other developed countries. In contrast, Al Qaeda has killed about 4,400 since it was started in 1988. Why aren't these same people calling for the deportation of homophobes?

Neoconservatives began an orgy of violence in Iraq that killed more Americans than Al Qaeda, and 150,000 Iraqis. Why aren't there calls for interventionists to be deported?

Muslims are small fry compared to the real mass murderers in our society. You claim you feel strongly about stopping murder. Why don't you care about the big fish?

Well that`s the Nature of extremism like the Far right. the way they see it, if any white person (if we`re talking about white far-rightism) commits a terrorist act, they will deal with their own white problems at home. But if you`re brown you all must be kicked out because you`re brown.

The whole point of the far right is they want anyone different out, regardless of whether you`re a perfectly well-behaved citizen of the community or not. You`re brown or black. You spoil the white view. That`s it.

That said, don`t get it mixed up with genuine concerns. Such as allowing the floodgates of immigration in without any concerns of checking who should be allowed in or not and to whether it`s wise or not- That is not being Far Right. That`s only being concerned for your country. Don`t mix the two up.

[Incontinenta Buttox]

In the thread I started about the Nice attacks, several posters are calling for the deportation everyone with ancestry from a Muslim country. That's what they think of a group that kills a few thousand people.

Over 34,000 people commit suicide in the USA each year. Due to homophobia, LGBT people in the USA are four times more likely than straight people to commit suicide. Let's pick a low estimate for the prevalence of LGBT people in society: 5%. Doing the math, these 5% account for 18% of the suicides. That's 6,120 LGBT suicides per year. If there was no homophobia, there would only 1520 LGBT suicides per year. Homophobia kills about 4,590 LGBT people in the USA every year. This figure more than doubles if you include other developed countries. In contrast, Al Qaeda has killed about 4,400 since it was started in 1988. Why aren't these same people calling for the deportation of homophobes?

Neoconservatives began an orgy of violence in Iraq that killed more Americans than Al Qaeda, and 150,000 Iraqis. Why aren't there calls for interventionists to be deported?

Muslims are small fry compared to the real mass murderers in our society. You claim you feel strongly about stopping murder. Why don't you care about the big fish?

Define far-right in your opinion.

[sumskilz]

Why aren't these same people calling for the deportation of homophobes?

You can't deport citizens. If homophobia is your concern however, then you would be against importing people with homophobic attitudes.

[Enros]

Because the Far-left only care about terrorism when white people do it.

If other groups kill way more than brown terrorists, surely the far-left are correct that they we should care more about that?

You can't deport citizens.

The people in that thread were calling for the deportation of second and third generation immigrants.

If homophobia is your concern however, then you would be against importing people with homophobic attitudes.

I think I mentioned before that I am in favour of immigrants from more conservative countries taking sex ed classes and having to pass in order to be allowed in. I'm also in favour of filtering out people with backward ideas about women, gays, people of different religions and other things like that and simply not admitting them. I don't support the EU's solution of just letting refugees walk in unfiltered.

[Mithradates]

The people in that thread were calling for the deportation of second and third generation immigrants.

They refuse to integrate, thats it.
Refusing to integrate -> crap life
Usually those from the 2nd+ generations go Allahu Akbar on the natives.

[Greyblades]

If other groups kill way more than brown terrorists, surely the far-left are correct that they we should care more about that?

African American people dont count as brown now? Far right obsesses over what far left ignore, dark skinned terrorists and minority gangs. Far left obsess over what far right ignore; police brutality and gun proliferation.

Europeans and commonwealth people cannot relate to far left concerns as they are unique to america but can relate to far right as they are endemic.

[Enros]

You want to deport Muslims because Pew found that about 25% (as high as 40% in Palestine) of them say violence against civilians is somethings justified? Well this Gallup survey found 49% of Americans said the same thing, and America was the country surveyed most supporting violence against civilians. The rest of the world better start deporting American citizens

Well by the same logic, we should deport other demographics with similarly abhorrent views.

• A lot more than 25% of Christians are homophobes, we better deport them all just to be safe
• Most Republicans and Democrats supported the Iraq war, we better deport them all.

Europeans and commonwealth people cannot relate to far left concerns as they are unique to america but can relate to far right as they are endemic.

It was leftists who ended the Northern Ireland conflict by ending the oppression of Catholics in the United Kingdom, despite drooling morons like Michael Gove arguing Catholics needed to swear that their soul belonged to the Queen before being allowed to have rights. Remember that time a bunch of peaceful protesters in Derry demanded the right to vote and use government services, and a bunch of Nazi stormtroopers in British army uniform gunned them down?

[athanaric]

Why does Enros pretend that "Islam" and "right wing" are skin colours?

You want to deport Muslims because Pew found that about 25% (as high as 40% in Palestine) of them say violence against civilians is somethings justified? Well this Gallup survey found 49% of Americans said the same thing, and America was the country surveyed most supporting violence against civilians. The rest of the world better start deporting American citizens

Well by the same logic, we should deport other demographics with similarly abhorrent views.

• A lot more than 25% of Christians are homophobes, we better deport them all just to be safe

I believe there was a poll showing that (almost) all of British Muslims would count as "homophobes". Milo cites it all the time.

Most Republicans and Democrats supported the Iraq war, we better deport them all.

We don't have those guys here in Europe.

It was leftists who ended the Northern Ireland conflict by ending the oppression of Catholics in the United Kingdom, despite drooling morons like Michael Gove arguing Catholics needed to swear that their soul belonged to the Queen before being allowed to have rights. Remember that time a bunch of peaceful protesters in Derry demanded the right to vote and use government services, and a bunch of Nazi stormtroopers in British army uniform gunned them down?

That may be, however it has all to do with the current situation. It was a small-scale regional conflict in some remote corner of Europe, not at all comparable in terms of seriousness or consequences with the current immigration crisis and (Salafist) Islamic terrorism, despite some internet tough guys (not you) claiming otherwise.

[Enros]

I believe there was a poll showing that (almost) all of British Muslims would count as "homophobes". Milo cites it all the time.

And I'm imagining a world where after deporting all Muslims, we also deports lots of other groups for being worse.

That may be, however it has all to do with the current situation. It was a small-scale regional conflict in some remote corner of Europe, not at all comparable in terms of seriousness or consequences with the current immigration crisis and (Salafist) Islamic terrorism, despite some internet tough guys (not you) claiming otherwise.

The current crisis is not all comparable with the intensity of the Northern Ireland conflict. In the five years 1972-1976 almost twice as many people died from terrorism in the UK than died in all of Europe since 1996. Northern Ireland was way worse. Look at this graph:

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The British eventually decided that their discrimination against Catholics was what caused the conflict. It's time for us to realize that our military interventions in the Middle East is what is causing Islamic terrorism in Europe and the USA.

We don't have those guys here in Europe.

We do have neocons

[Mithradates]

we better deport them all just to be safe

No.
There is no magical "we".
The sooner you understand that, the easier it will be to deal with it.

[StarDreamer]

The British eventually decided that their discrimination against Catholics was what caused the conflict. It's time for us to realize that our military interventions in the Middle East is what is causing Islamic terrorism in Europe and the USA.

Define our. Do you include all the western world, "the coalition of the willing", whom do you include in this mythicla "our"?

[athanaric]

And I'm imagining a world where after deporting all Muslims, we also deports lots of other groups for being worse.

We don't need to deport all Muslims. All we need to do is deport the bad ones. The rest will fall in line.

The current crisis is not all comparable with the intensity of the Northern Ireland conflict. In the five years 1972-1976 almost twice as many people died from terrorism in the UK than died in all of Europe since 1996. Northern Ireland was way worse.

You don't understand. There wasn't a pan-Catholic movement back then killing protestants in Sweden, atheists in China, or gays in the US. There was no pan-Catholic feeling in Europe regarding Irish terrorism, no large-scale support for the IRA (or the Eta) from Bavaria or Slovakia because Catholicism. Most importantly, there weren't scores and hundreds of millions of unemployed Irishmen with a sense of entitlement trying to settle in all major European countries. And you know why that is? Because Ireland is a small ing island barely the size and population of an average European country, and it's located on the fringe of Europe. You know what's even more amazing? Africa is bigger than Ireland.
You guys need to put down the crack pipe for a while and realize that Britain isn't the world.

The British eventually decided that their discrimination against Catholics was what caused the conflict. It's time for us to realize that our military interventions in the Middle East is what is causing Islamic terrorism in Europe and the USA.

No, it's not the only factor. There are other factors involved and it's a complicated mess. You need to carefully read, and memorize these words:
Brown People Have Agency, Too.

We do have neocons

Germany didn't support the Iraq War, we still got tens of thousands of illegal Iraqi immigrants.

[BatGoat]

In the thread I started about the Nice attacks, several posters are calling for the deportation everyone with ancestry from a Muslim country. That's what they think of a group that kills a few thousand people.

After posting by other people about other acts of terror, several people automatically began calling out for tighter gun control. And the President buried his head in the sand and ignored reality as usual. And then went on to allow several thousand more unvetted refugees into the country.

Over 34,000 people commit suicide in the USA each year. Due to homophobia, LGBT people in the USA are four times more likely than straight people to commit suicide. Let's pick a low estimate for the prevalence of LGBT people in society: 5%. Doing the math, these 5% account for 18% of the suicides. That's 6,120 LGBT suicides per year. If there was no homophobia, there would only 1520 LGBT suicides per year. Homophobia kills about 4,590 LGBT people in the USA every year. This figure more than doubles if you include other developed countries. In contrast, Al Qaeda has killed about 4,400 since it was started in 1988. Why aren't these same people calling for the deportation of homophobes?

Because of several circumstances, least of which is that where would you deport a citizen of their own country to? Also, most of these suicides aren't "caused" by homophobia. Indeed, most cases are caused by people who are revealed to be homosexual after their death. Unless the actual homophobic people are physically killing or someone driving these people to suicide, then your point is null.

Neoconservatives began an orgy of violence in Iraq that killed more Americans than Al Qaeda, and 150,000 Iraqis. Why aren't there calls for interventionists to be deported?

You will find that just as many people on all spectra of the political horseshoe concurred with the Iraq invasion. And just as many voted against it. I even think Hillary Clinton was all for the intervention in Iraq. Where do you want her to be deported to?

Muslims are small fry compared to the real mass murderers in our society. You claim you feel strongly about stopping murder. Why don't you care about the big fish?

Which big fish are you specifically calling out? Black on black violence? White on white violence? Dog on cat violence? What are you actually asking people to contribute on this thread? To join with you in bashing the far-right? Anything considered "far" on the political spectrum on both sides is the extremist point of view for that particular wing. On both sides, they are generally narrow minded, self-absorbed egotists who claim their way is the only way and that they are right. And, when push comes to shove, they are a narrow slice of whichever wing they are attached to. The majority of people at least (going out on a limb here) weigh up both sides of the argument before making statements. It's called rational thought. Have you taken the time to sit down and mull your points through or is it just a knee jerk reaction to what others have said previously to your posts?

[fkizz]

Erhm, there is no consensus on what "far right" is as confusing as things are. See my signature, plus, LGTB suicides aren't exactly on the fault of far right, especially with such a foggy definition.
People who may or not be considered "far right", a slippery term, may have or not opposed Iraq War aswell.

Second "brown people" is a vague term aswell, for there is a thing called getting a tan. Many beauty minded people want to get browner after being at the beach, are the far righters bi-racial?

Playing with tricky words to paint an agenda so people are more accepting of terrorism as an ok thing or "means of atonement" isn't very beautiful.

[Himster]

So, there are people who overgeneralize and belittle other groups, so let's overgeneralize and belittle them, because overgeneralizing and belittling in wrong.
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

[Ludicus]

there is no consensus on what "far right" is...foggy definition..."brown people" is a vague term aswell,

It seems that everything is conveniently vague and imprecise.
Well, there is consensus in what they think- it's an explosive mix of far-right ideology (*)+racism+hatred of refugees.

France has always given, and never been racist...We not going to accept all the migrants. You are dogs, barbarians; there have been slaughters on French soil

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[Basil II the B.S]

Lol, 2016 is already above 200 thanks to Islamic terrorism and on its way to beat the peak of 1988.

Islamic terrorism is now as bad as IRA. Way to dismantle your own thread.

Let's answer your question with another question, why does the ''left'' refuse to acknowledge Islamic terrorism?

It seems that everything is conveniently vague and imprecise.
Well, there is consensus in what they think- it's an explosive mix of far-right ideology (*)+racism+hatred of refugees.
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''Rational'' Wiki is written by and for American Democrats.
Literally the equivalent of ''Conservativepedia'' for the other side of the spectrum.

I wouldn't really use it as a primary source.

[Bobington]

Because they are often behind it. However this is not wholly true.