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    The OP is clear enough "British MP Helen Joanne Cox killed in far-right terrorist attack". I can't be that difficult to work out what we should be discussing. Are any ISIS* supporters killing pro-EU supporters in order to initiate a race war? If you think so, please tell us more.

    * ISIS apparently has such a massive following in the Muslim world, so you insist in telling us, that "only" Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the UAE, Pakistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Turkey, Chad, Togo, Tunisia, Djibouti, Senegal, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Gabon, Guinea, Qatar, Cote d’Ivoire, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Maldives, Mali, Malaysia, Egypt, Morocco, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Iran, Kurdistan, Hezbollah and Yemen are officially at war with them
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    Another idiot will expect a knock on the door this morning...


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    Default Re: British MP Helen Joanne Cox killed in far-right terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Still banging on about Muslims when we all know that the murder was carried out by a far-right Brexiteer moron, who knew bloody well what he was doing, and had planned to do so well in advance.

    Is this your way of processing the fact that Islamophobia kills?
    Thomas Mair represents no one but himself and the cause in his own head. It appears that he associated with far-right sects and even made the weapon that killed Jo. But his views are not shared by other people who support Brexit, or dislike Islam.

    Regardless, how the hell do Islam get brought into this topic? It's got nothing to do with it.

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    Please mind that the war in Syria has its own thread. Furthermore the nature of Islam or the phenomenon of islamism are not the topic of this thread. If you want to post something and notice that it does not relate to the murder of Joanne Cox or its consequences and circumstances at all then post it in a different, appropriate thread. Further deviations may be subject to harsher measures under the "Off-Topic Posting" paragraph of the ToS.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36590032

    It really is touching to see the international response in relation to this tragedy. Especially in the way Jo's memorial fund is being managed, with over a million pounds already raised to be split between the causes she supported.

    I imagine someone will probably end up asking, why isn't there an international vigil for 'X' bombing in 'Y' - as was the case with Paris. But I think the answer is fairly simple: people rally around symbols, and as unfair as that might sound, symbols can be used to enact real change in the world.

    When Jo was assassinated the world saw it not just as an attack on democracy, but also on the traits and views she stood for: compassion, acceptance and decency.

    If the world can proceed onwards from these types of acts of evil by embracing the very best characteristics of humanity instead of goulishly obsessing over the murderer, that's honestly the best memorial we could ever conduct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incontinenta Buttox View Post
    Thomas Mair represents no one but himself and the cause in his own head. It appears that he associated with far-right sects and even made the weapon that killed Jo. But his views are not shared by other people who support Brexit, or dislike Islam.

    Regardless, how the hell do Islam get brought into this topic? It's got nothing to do with it.
    Buggered if I know why some people want to bring Islm into it, you are asking the wrong person, but thankfully the mods have intervened.

    Something or someone put the cause into his head, because, if nothing else mentally ill people don't often buy terrorist materials, create weaponry and execute a pre-planned assassination. There is evidence to suggest he associated with Britain First and that the wider far-right scene had threatened to kill politicians and indeed continue to do so. Mair is a product of his environment.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36590032

    It really is touching to see the international response in relation to this tragedy. Especially in the way Jo's memorial fund is being managed, with over a million pounds already raised to be split between the causes she supported.

    I imagine someone will probably end up asking, why isn't there an international vigil for 'X' bombing in 'Y' - as was the case with Paris. But I think the answer is fairly simple: people rally around symbols, and as unfair as that might sound, symbols can be used to enact real change in the world.

    When Jo was assassinated the world saw it not just as an attack on democracy, but also on the traits and views she stood for: compassion, acceptance and decency.

    If the world can proceed onwards from these types of acts of evil by embracing the very best characteristics of humanity instead of goulishly obsessing over the murderer, that's honestly the best memorial we could ever conduct.
    Was there a similar response to Gabby Gifford, I can't recall now.
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    Default Re: British MP Helen Joanne Cox killed in far-right terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Another idiot will expect a knock on the door this morning...


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    Well, such things are fair game, but not in a political system called democracy.

    If democracy is calling/encouraging assassination of your opponents when they get too "dissident" and bold... then how much of democracy have you got left?
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    I'm glad this is finally over, hopefully people will stop descrating the poor woman's grave now the political competition is settled.

    Rest in Peace, Joanne Cox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I'm glad this is finally over, hopefully people will stop descrating the poor woman's grave now the political competition is settled.

    Rest in Peace, Joanne Cox.
    Agreed.

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    RIP Joanne Cox. It seems that her death hasn't alerted the amount of people needed to vote remain.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    RIP Joanne Cox. It seems that her death hasn't alerted the amount of people needed to vote remain.....
    Despite all the evidence, are you deliberately attempting to link this murder with the UK referendum out of spite or are you just misinformed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caratacus View Post
    Despite all the evidence, are you deliberately attempting to link this murder with the UK referendum out of spite or are you just misinformed?
    Excuse me?
    I merely pointed out that her death didn't affect as someone would have expect from the publicity the ones who would vote for remain but they didn't. Perhaps a great deal of 28% of the the people who didn't vote for example.?
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    I think if anything more people were for leave, but the toxicity kept them home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    Excuse me?
    I merely pointed out that her death didn't affect as someone would have expect from the publicity the ones who would vote for remain but they didn't. Perhaps a great deal of 28% of the the people who didn't vote for example.?
    But why should it be expected, that people's opinion of the EU would would have been influenced by her murder anyway? are people really that dumb and emotionally driven!
    What I feel so distasteful, is that some did try and portray the event in terms of Brexit and that the mental instabiility of this guy was very much played down. Fortunately the majority of the Remain supporters did not do so, and that this horrendous crime was not allowed to distort and tarnish the political debate shortly before the voting.

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    Jo Cox assassinated by brexits elite spec op cleaner forces... Farage himself expected to have given the command

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    Quote Originally Posted by nein View Post
    Jo Cox assassinated by brexits elite spec op cleaner forces... Farage himself expected to have given the command
    Some guy told me she was investigating rape allegations around that time she was murdered.

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