Greek government finally deals with the important stuff: homeopathy

[pannonian]

Homeopathic A&E

[athanaric]

I presume you are talking about politicians.

Them, too. But not exclusively.

Homeopathic "doctors" are not medical doctors.Medicine is evidence/science based... (there is a difference, let's say that science-based is a refinement to evidence-based)

Doesn't change the fact that there are actual, trained medical doctors in Germany who believe in homeopathy, and actual pharmacies who sell this stuff (even "homeopathy for animals"...). Seen it with my own eyes. No idea why they do it, it's probably cognitive dissonance or something like that. Or money.

[Ludicus]

What happened is that since clinical trials yielded no effect at all, the Swiss review used "pragmatic studies" or "real world studies", a term of some fame within the pseudo-science crowd, being a byword for "I cannot control my variables properly".

Ditto

2005 Lancet meta-analysis by Shang et al,

We acknowledge that to prove a negative is impossible, but we have shown that the effects seen in placebo controlled trials of homoeopathy are compatible with the placebo hypothesis.
By contrast, with identical methods, we found that the benefits of conventional medicine are unlikely to be explained by unspecific effects.

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Doesn't change the fact that there are actual, trained medical doctors in Germany who believe in homeopathy.

Sadly you are completely right. ( I don't think they believe in homeopathy. It's just an easy way to make money)
Fourteen years ago,
Three out of four Germans have used complementary or natural ... BMJ. 2002 Nov 2; 325(7371): 990.

The number of doctors and paramedical practitioners offering complementary treatments has also risen over the past decade. In 1995, about 5700 doctors had had special training in natural remedy medicine, but by the year 2000 the number had almost doubled, to 10 800. Homoeopathic medicine is currently practised by 4500 doctors in Germany, almost twice as many as in 1994.

[Ἀπολλόδοτος Α΄ ὁ Σωτήρ]

Speaking of people being able to govern themselves, did you know that in some US states faith-healing was legal, and that, if it resulted in death, no one was held responsible, because it was divine will.

EDIT: Anyway I just saw the date of the last post... I guess, I'm late.

[Mayer]

New leftism in a nutshell.

[Ludicus]

New leftism in a nutshell.

Well, left wing policies and homeopathy are strange bedfellows: homeopathy is a right wing treatment- bad ideas in small doses. We all know that right wing policies are not effective to treat any social condition


We have some crap only conservatives believe, like creationism, climate change denialism...and homeopathy.
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On a more serious note,the same garbage is prevalent all across the political spectrum.It's nothing new, it's just plain oportunism...homeopathy is common in some countries, while being uncommon in others.

[Mayer]

fear mongering about supposedly antrophogenic influence on the climate, is another part of post-modern leftism
leading to moronic policies like Syriza's crusade against gold mines, despite their tight financial status

[Ludicus]

fear mongering about supposedly antrophogenic influence on the climate, is another part of post-modern leftism
leading to moronic policies like Syriza's crusade against gold mines...

Not sure if this is the right place to discuss the power of the economic interests of the Canada's Eldorado Gold Corporation (a totally different topic...) or the reactionary mind of conservative climate change creationists.
Btw, stop the misinformation,
Eldorado Gold to restart construction of Skouries mine
Eldorado Gold gets licence for Olympias mine project in Greece .

[Mayer]

Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain of corn.

[Ludicus]

Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain of corn.

The Political Mudpit is the right place to discuss your preferred obsession - the militant anti-liberal crusade.

[Mayer]

If you are so sensitive about climate change, you would love when i throw the dirt in your face which the chinese create when they make photovoltaiks or i could give you the trees which are cut to make place for windmills, killing the animals in the vicinity too. Or the food that gets in biogas plants instead of feeding hungry.

[Ludicus]

..snip..

This is not the right thread to discuss the egregious stupidity, or deliberate obtusity of climate change creationists...

[Mayer]

No, this thread should focus on the egregious stupidity of the Syriza government in Greece. Like their plans to increase the share of publicly owned renewable energy, which like the subsidies for renewable energies in Germany would be a very costly endeavour.

[Ludicus]

No, this thread should focus on the egregious stupidity of the Syriza government in Greece.

Once again, a misplaced, ridiculous antileftist obsession. (The title of the thread is "Greek government finally deals with the important stuff: homeopathy")
As I said before, the defense of homeopathy is prevalent all across the political spectrum.
It's not a leftist thing.

[Mayer]

Alternative medicine sounds more like a classical green policy to be honest.

[Ludicus]

Alternative medicine sounds more like a classical green policy to be honest.

Not really, alternative medicine sound more like the virulently anti-scientific mindset of right wing creatitionists.
Btw, homeopathy has a very long tradition in your country.
Under the third Reich, homeopathy gained currency as part of Nazi support for "organic" treatments.
According to the Allensbach Institute,the use of homeopathy is on the rise. In 1970, only one in four West Germans had ever used homeopathic remedies - a figure that has since risen to 57 percent.
The homeopathic garbage is alive and well in the country of your right-wing nationalist AfD.

[Himster]

Homeos deserve equal rights dammit.