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    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...cedonia-greece

    I do agree with the thought (although not the sentiment, or the article in the Guardian which is rather very general) that at such times this issue (even if it is the real tomb of Aristotle) seems a bit of a distraction-game. And the massive tomb in Amphipolis is not yet concluded to be of a specific person, although it probably is of Alexander's family.

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    Greek archaeologists believe they have discovered the lost tomb of Aristotle, the greatest philosopher in history.

    Kostas Sismanidis said he was almost sure that a 2,400 year-old domed vault he unearthed in ancient Stagira was the burial place of the man credited with formalising logic.
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    “I have no hard proof, but strong indications lead me to almost certainty,” said Sismanidis.

    Archaeologists have been working painstakingly at the site – the philosopher’s birthplace in 384 BC in the Greek region of Macedonia – for 20 years.

    Sismanidis was due to give further details at a world congress in northern Greece of scholars specialised in Aristotle’s work. He said the architecture and location of the tomb, close to Stagira’s ancient square and with panoramic views, supported the belief that it was the philosopher’s final resting place.

    Although little is known about Aristotle’s life despite many of his works surviving, two literary sources – a mainstay for archaeological discovery – suggest that the people of Stagira may have transferred his ashes from Chalcis on the island of Euboea (Chalkida on Evia today) where he is known to have died in 322 BC.

    The vault, which has a square marble floor dating from Hellenistic times, appears to have been hurriedly constructed with an altar outside. Coins dated to Alexander the Great and ceramics from royal pottery were also found.
    Aristotle died in 322 BC, some brief time after his struggles to leave Athens in 323 BC (Alexander dies then, and a trial is getting ready to take place against Aristotle, similar to the one against Socrates). Aristotle can be argued (very generally) to be responsible for moving philosophy more towards 'syllogisms' (later called formal logic), from the more prevalent 'dialectics' of the time immediately before him. This is not purely positive or purely negative, but it definitely meant moving philosophy away from more theoretical examinations, that later on got to assume the name of 'metaphysics'.
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    "While the lion prevails with its claws, and the ox through its horns, man does by his thinking"
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    Lol. I left a message about this on your profile page before seeing this thread.

    This is truly a remarkable discovery if it turns out that this is legitimately his tomb. Even if it isn't his tomb, discovering an early Hellenistic tomb is always phenomenal. I'd like to see the ceramics found within if not any murals that might have been painted. Or perhaps his tomb was constructed of more humble means and didn't involve the drafting of an artist like some lavish aristocratic Macedonian tombs.

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    It may be his tomb, yes. I am more worried that they have stopped work on the massive tomb in Amphipolis. Everything sucks
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
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    Did he leave any undisclosed books??

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    Yes, a work on Laughter
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
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    Melexit.
    Eats, shoots, and leaves.

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    I'm dubious of the archaeology here. No archeologist is supposed to be this certain something is fact.

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    Afaik the region of his burial is not contested (ancient sources mention he was buried in his homeland of Stageira). I am not following the story, though.

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    Don't disturb the tomb of Aristotle. Bad idea! He was a crafty one and prepared for it well in advance, no doubt.


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    Death is glorious. His student never feared!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AqD View Post
    Death is glorious.
    As is Zeus stabbing the sky with thunderbolts
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriakos View Post
    As is Zeus stabbing the sky with thunderbolts
    That's not the only thing Zeus "stabbed" with his "thunderbolt."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus#C...s_and_children

    His meaty, pulsating thunderbolt that is.

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    ^Still better than Loki, the god who managed to get raped by a horse
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
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    He didn't object.
    Eats, shoots, and leaves.

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