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    Dai Viet
    Faction Introduction

    “Mountains and Rivers of the Southern Country" (Nam Quốc Sơn Hà) was written in 1077 by an unknown author, and was meant to be read aloud before battles fought by the Vietnamese general and later imperial scion Lı Thường Kiệt (李常傑). It asserts the sovereignty of the Đại Việt rulers over their land, having thrown off the yoke of the Chinese in the previous century. This poem can therefore be considered the first Vietnamese Declaration of independence:

    南國山河南帝居
    截然定分在天書
    如何逆虜來侵犯
    汝等行看取敗虛

    Over Mountains and Rivers of the South, reigns the Emperor of the South
    As it stands written forever in the Book of Heaven
    How dare those barbarians invade our land?
    Your armies, without pity, will be annihilated.


    From the mountainous border with the land of the Song to the northern tip of kingdom of the Chams, lie the lands of the Đại Việt (大越 lit. "Great Viet") . A long strait of flood-plains bordered by jungle and mountains, the land of the Viet boasts one of the earliest agricultural societies in the region. Abundance from the fields, the sea and the mountains lies waiting for taking. Yet for all its fertile territory, it is also a hard one to settle and its inhabitants have always been fighting for their survival: both the land and its peoples are unforgiving to would-be invaders.

    Having broken free from the hegemony of the Tang dynasty in 905 A.D the Viet people endured a long period of internal conflicts and raids by their Cham Hindu neighbours. Chaos bred warfare and triumph, triumph bred control. Accustomed to constant fighting for centuries, the Viet excel in both guerrilla and conventional warfare. Various short-lived dynasties arose and fell experiencing both glorious victories and ignoble defeats. By 1009, a stable dynasty along Chinese-style administration was established by Ly Thai To (birth name Lı Công Uẩn 李公蘊), taking his family name, the Lı Dynasty is a milestone in the history of the Viet. Having relocated the capital from the natural fortress of Hoa Lư to the fertile, and more open lands around Thăng Long, the emperor has laid the foundation for future conquests and ‘pacifications’, including dominating the northern tribes and various incursions into Champa territory to the south.


    During the last 300 years, the Đại Việt have repelled four invasions from the Chinese and initiated or endured nine conflicts with the Cham. During the early part of the 12th century, the Viet people faced a new foe: the Khmer Empire, who have since made five incursions into Đại Việt territory in recent times.
    To compound external depredations, being an amalgam of numerous proud ethnic groups organised into highly autonomous tribes and clans, conflict between various parts of the state, even open rebellion and revolt, is not uncommon.

    The Đại Việt have endured and thrived, despite all these hostilities. Religious and cultural influences from Hindu India and the veneer of civil and military superstructures imported from Confucian China are both clumsily assimilated into the Đại Việt state to various degrees. A new era of prosperity is set for Đại Việt as an independent regional power and nominal vassal state of the Song. Nevertheless, peace and prosperity can breed decay and corruption. The illustrious Lı Dynasty could still fall prey to internal rebellions led by powerful noble families vying for influence or to the external depredations of their bellicose southern neighbours - the Cham and Khmers. A careful Viet ruler must forge a path that secures the land of the Viet both from outside and from within
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    To the North lies the ambitious, economic powerhouse of the Song, to the South and from the sea warlike Cham raiders threaten, in-between fierce mountainous tribes lie along its entire length - the Đại Việt are not blessed with an easy geography. Most territory is rural, its subjects living by agriculture and exploitation of local products such as silk, pottery or valuable timber.

    Such vulnerability also presents opportunities. The rugged, resilient Viet peasants are an excellent pool for military troops, despite being mostly poor and ill-equipped. They compensate for what is lacking in weapons and armour by high dedication and skills in using the terrain to their advantage. Under certain circumstances and valiant generals, these men could become fierce, disciplined soldiers supporting the imperial army.


    Luckily in the realm of Đại Việt, such generals are not wanting. Notably, the eunuch-general Lı Thường Kiệt’s victories against the Song have ensured that the ever-scheming Chinese are unlikely to attempt any reckless incursions on Viet soil in the near future. Such triumphs, as well as those against the Cham, have noisily signalled to its neighbours that attempting encirclement of or alliance against the Viet can only lead to their respective downfall. It remains to be seen how long its three potent enemies: the Khmers, Champa and the Song, will heed such bitter experience.

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    The town of Thanh Hoa, it's port and the citadel of Hoa Lu.
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    The Viet capital - Thang Long.

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    The northeastern settlements of Noi Bang and Van Kiep.
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    The port of Van Don

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    The Viet Army

    從 駕 還 京
    奪 槊 章 陽 渡
    擒 胡 鹹 子 關
    太 平 宜 努 力
    萬 古 此 江 山



    At Chuong Duong port, we seized their spears
    At Ham Tu pass, we captured the barbarians
    Peace has come, we shall remain steadfast
    For our nation to last a thousand years.

    Trần Quang Khải (1241–1294)

    Part One: Lộ quân "the Local armies"

    Being a nascent and relatively small realm in comparison with the Song and Champa, Dai Viet makes much effort to maintain a military recruitment system capable of fending of the invasions from its neighbours.
    Strong and fit men of every region were selected and required to enlist into their respective local armies and follow a special programme called 'Ngu Binh U Nong / 寓兵於農' (lit. reserve soldiers-turned farmers).

    Due to the importance of these local armies, the Ly dynasty strictly forbids the enslavement of males while it maintains thorough control on the population to ensure a available recruitment pool for their "local armies". Unlike the Song, where the joining the army is a way to escape the agrarian life, under the Đại Việt
    troops are closely tied to the land. Troops are provided with land to sustain themselves and their families, not unlike under fubing system of the Tang. Each year, the soldiers are required to devote a certain amount of time for military duties (patrolling, training, etc) and literally take turns between farming and soldiering.

    Using this particular form of conscription, the Ly Dynasty is able to develop agriculture while maintaining a large bulk of semi-professional reserves whose combat skills are superior to regular militia standards (due to their regular training regimes) at much lower maintenance cost. The state only had to pay, in addition to equipment and weaponry, a salary and food ration for all soldiers whilst they are "on duty". Thsi allows the Đại Việt to allocate more resources to military equipment, weapons and other affairs. Once a soldier dies, their allotted land is returned to the state’s possession rather than being inherited by the soldier's descendants.



    Dan Binh - lit. "peasant-militia". Barefoot and armed with nothing more than a bamboo spear, these militiamen are drawn from the vast agrarian population at times of dire need to protect their towns and villages. In recent decades, the Đại Việt has established a capable military system and despite the relative importance of these volunteers during invasions and civil unrest, their role was minimal in the wider military complex.


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    Huong Binh -lit. "crossbow-militia". Originally stemming from the peasantry, poorly self-equipped, or provided with arms by the local military bureau, these men causally carry basic wooden crossbows and shields, and a simple machete-like farming implement, the "rựa" as a melee weapon. These men could be still lethal as skirmishers combining an intimate knowledge of the land, and a specialty in ambushing invaders.

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    Thương thủ - lit."spearman". Armed with spears and protected by quilted cloth/paper and bronze mirror armor, these conscripted units were part of the Ly dynasty’s primary infantry force used both in the defense of the provinces, and in offensive campaigns against their Champa and Song neighbours. The spear and the shield held an importance both symbolical and practical in Viet culture. The long oval wooden shields and paper tunics offer them some decent protection, and
    allow these rugged fighters to hold the main defensive line, protecting other troops from enemy archers or cavalry, or both.

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    Cung thủ - lit. "archer". Equipped with composite bows, hardened paper-fabric tunics and rough rattan shields, these Viet archers are conscripted in the same manner as their spear-men counterparts. If the situation prevails, they could fight decently in melee with small shields and machetes. As with the Thuong thu both these local troops wear distinctive "Tu Phuong Binh Dinh" (lit. "square hats") were made from buffalo skin, and painted red. , the state only had to pay, in addition to equipment and weaponry, a salary and food ration for all soldiers who were "on duty".

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    Thủ tiễn Loquan lit. "Javelin-men" (thủ tiễn = hand thrown arrow, dart, javelin). Armed with short range javelins these conscripted skirmishers forgo heavier armour for simple tunics made from paper or quilted cloth, allowing them to move quickly across the battlefield. Originally an important hunting weapon for the prehistoric Viet peoples, the javelin or hunting spear is still favored by the remote highland tribes, tho
    ugh Dai Viet regular troops still utilise this ubiquitous weapon of choice in tribal conflict. Some even go as far to say the character 'Viet' itself shows the pre-eminent importance of the javelin, being composed of two elements, one pronounced 'tau' in Vietnamese meaning 'to run' () and the other meaning spear or javelin (); perhaps signifying the great migratory past of those who came to settle the Red River basin . The Đại Việt employ strong, aggressive men in front line to harass the enemy, then carry the fight to them directly with swords and shields - a common feature of the regional guerilla warfare.

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    The Viet Army

    Part Two - Vassal & Imperial Armies

    Vuong Hau Gia Dong - Vassal Armies

    Gia Binh
    is a shortened name for "Vuong Hau Gia Dong", meaning literally 'most prosperous family army'. These well-equipped troops hail from the personal retinue of Đại Việt royal clan members. This privilege of having personal armies, however, can only be granted exclusively to the family members under certain conditions i.e as a means of preventing attempts on the imperial throne.

    Owing to its name, every vassal army was set up, equipped, trained and funded completely by a member of the imperial family. Therefore, each vassal army can be characterized by the quality and attributes of its leader in terms of composition, equipment and fighting abilities. Depending on the martial tradition of the current dynasty, its royal members may neglect or nurture their armies.




    Cấu Liêm Giabinh - lit."Vassal Polearm". The Câu Liêm is a vicious weapon, resembling a hooked blade on a long pole, it was a traditional and common weapon of the Viet in riverine warfare. It was also capable of wounding horses and dismounting cavalry. These men are protected by leather and paper scale armor, not to mention the support from the shield-bearering infantry with whom they operate closely with.


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    Hoa Cau Giabinh. lit. "Vassal Fire-throwers". The incendiary pot is a common feature in East Asian warfare, and was also used by the Song Chinese, Jurchens and in Heian Japan. These men are adept to the tactics of skirmishing, able to harass and demoralise advanced enemies with their fearsome throwing grenades filled with flammable oil and resin.

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    Ky Binh
    - lit. "cavalry". Drawing from a long tradition of riverine warfare, the Viet are not usually known for their mounted warriors. Still, wielding a long Chinese style glaive or pudao and equipped with scale armor, these cavalrymen are a formidable opponent, despite the small size of the Viet native horse. The Viet raised horses and other livestock on hills and mountainous regions in the West and the North of their, but also reinforced their herds by trade or raiding, the most prized of all is the famed horses from the Kingdom of Dali to the northeast. In one of such recent raid, a Ly emperor succeeded in seizing 10,000 horses from Bai tribesmen and traders.

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    Tượng binh - lit. "War Elephant". War elephants have always been symbol of wealth and power in Southeast Asia. Captured from the wild jungle, savage male elephants are tamed and trained for years to become ferocious weapons in themselves. Despite their inferior quality in comparison with elephantry of the Cham or Khmers, these beasts could carry Viet nobles and their retainers into the thickest of battles. From a secured howdah, troops on its back can fire crossbows with greater accuracy and line of sight that infantry.

    The Viet has been known to build arenas fights between elephants, or between elephants and tigers, as a form of training, but also for imperial sport. In such arenas, death penalties for high treason convict could also be meted out by elephants trampling and goring them to death.


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    Thánh Dực Cấm Vệ Quân -The Imperial Army


    These men, numbering around three-thousand, are the most professional, best equipped and best disciplined portion of the Đại Việt’s military. Established in the Early Le dynasty (980-1009), the imperial armies continue to grow but remain a small elite core, entrusted only with the task of safe-guarding the Emperor and the capital city of Thăng Long, with little direct deployment on the battlefield. However, the imperial army is quickly increasing in strength under the direct command of the Emperor himself and a few most trusted generals.

    Cấm Quân
    - lit. "Imperial Guard". Entering battle with their traditional battle axes and the best armour affordable to the state, these men were expected to give up their lives protecting the Son of Heaven, their Emperor.



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    Xy Ky Binh lit. "horse-archer"- flower of Đại Việt army, these men were equipped with the finest horses, weapons and armor from the Emperor's personal household. Most nobles are expected to practice horse archery, and contests were held regularly to select men for promotion in rank and importance. Some of these men may have been castrated to be employed as eunuch-bodyguards, in forming close trusted inner circle around the Emperor. Lı Thường Kiệt was one among them. The eunuch-general rose from a junior officer of the Xy Ky Binh to leader of the Viet realm, due in large part to his horse archery skills.

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    Dung Nghĩa Bình ( 義兵勇 , lit. "Brave & Righteous Troops) - A sword is a lethal object, especially in the hand of a vicious murderer. This type of unit originated from a Song policy applied in Guangxi and Guangdong, which the Đại Việt rapidly imitated and developed into their most dangerous unit. Made up of volunteers, indigent peasants and bandits, and trained and equipped by the state to the standards of the imperial army, the Dung Nghia entered combat at the fiercest points along the battlelines to turn the tide, regardless of how terrible casualties might turn out, seeking redemption or eventually, riches and fame. For the same reason, members of these "suicide squads" never officially appear on the personnel reports of the Imperial army.




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    Máy Bắn Dá
    ( 弹射 lit. "catapults") - similar to common designs used by the Song Chinese these smaller and highly maneuverable "Pao" function as trebuchetsand are a common sight in East Asian siege warfare. Powered by a crew of dozens strong, hand-picked men, they rain stones and fire projectiles onto enemy fortifications and formations. Historically, the Viet mangonel took part in the siege of Nanning in 1077 during the campaign of general Lı Thường Kiệt. After 40 days of dogged fighting with missiles exchanged from both sides, eventually, the city fell, leaving thousands of casualties on both sides. The Viet army then destroyed the Song fortifications an, resulting in the halt of the later invasions the following year.

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    Đại Việt Captain and General

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    As with most of our factions, a huge amount of behind the scenes work has gone into making the Dai Viet. This was a team effort and we relied heavily on hundreds of hours of work from AUH's Vietnamese members, who contributed to the discussion and ultimate design of this faction, stsatan and sware have produced some amazing concept art that inspired many of the actual units on the roster, and this has been included above. yevon and Cuong Vu headed up our research team and dug deep to find us the right historical references - in the face of a pitiful record of material culture bequeathed to us.

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    So.....this took a little longer than expected Some of the assets above have been already released (with our permission), albeit in an unfinished form in some of Chinese mods, but this is finished version.

    I just wanted to say a big 'thank you' to those AUH fans who still post on this forum, and inquire, however impatiently, about progress. As you can tell, we're not rushing to release an unfinished project, but progress is being made on other factions, such as the Khmer Empire and Champa. Our Chinese friends are doing incredible things with Asian battle map settlements, all of which will be incorporated into AUH eventually. Whilst AUH doesn't really have an active dev team speak to of, I'm keen to work with anyone who something to offer, so drop me a line.

    I'm thinking about working on Goryeo next, or maybe finishing Southeast Asian factions ? Views ?
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    OK, so maybe we go Khmer ?

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    Great news!
    In addition, I can't see the pictures in thread 3 and 4(about campaign models and settlement),can you upload it again?

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    Nice to see life here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by againster View Post
    Great news!
    In addition, I can't see the pictures in thread 3 and 4(about campaign models and settlement),can you upload it again?
    They are definitely there, maybe try reloading ?

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    Will there be any factions present and playable in the vain of Majipahit, or Ahyutthya? (sorry if I butchered those names)

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    Neither of those fall within our time frame (1180 AD).

    However, we are hoping to add the 'Tai Chiefdoms' as an emergent faction (coming out of what is now northern Thailand aka Sukhothai), and also have Srivijaya as a starting factions centered in Sumatra and the Malay Peinsula.

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    Oh nice!

    Thank you for your hard work.

    I would like to see Goryeo next because I've never seen Goryeo ever in any mod.

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    Aahh great!
    Finally some bigger preview to read through again.

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    Okay good! I'm excited to see what else has been done!

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    I never thought I'd ever see another preview here
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    holy moly this is still alive! great work Yelu!
    "Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives. Let my death hold no glory, and let me die forgotten and unknown. Let it not be said that I was one among the dead to accuse the living."

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    Dashi, the faction list hasn't been modified, correct?


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