MOS, the ultimate TATW experience.

[pewdiepie]

One solution would be to use forced diplomacy and become allies again with whoever you broke your alliance with when your two allies started fighting. When you ally with them again then they will cease fire and become neutral towards all of your allies. For awhile anyways...... one can never count on alliance, even ancient ones.

Thank you! Your tactic worked!

PS: I noticed there is an order to do this though, meaning you must ally with one first than the other, but I failed to notice why. I just saved and tried, loading back upon failure. Also, Forced Diplomacy (which I never used before) worked fine.
Another thing I noticed is that when relations are reetablished they are already at "very good" status.

[pewdiepie]

I have another doubt:

Why Thondol (treebeard) has only the option to "bribe", and why it never takes it, and its mood never change (pleased/upset/neutral)?
I tried over and over to bribe Treebeard, he just kept saying no. Never closing the negotiations ever.
To me, this smells like a script. Something I should do that would convince them to ally maybe, or surrender, whatever.

Do I have to take the ents down to capture Thondol? Should I just leave it alone (since nobody is messing with it anyways)? Is it possible to Bribe them? How?

[♔atthias♔]

I have another doubt:

Why Thondol (treebeard) has only the option to "bribe", and why it never takes it, and its mood never change (pleased/upset/neutral)?
I tried over and over to bribe Treebeard, he just kept saying no. Never closing the negotiations ever.
To me, this smells like a script. Something I should do that would convince them to ally maybe, or surrender, whatever.

Do I have to take the ents down to capture Thondol? Should I just leave it alone (since nobody is messing with it anyways)? Is it possible to Bribe them? How?

bribing is disabled in practice* to prevent stuff like orc diplomats serving dwarves and the like

*by this I mean that the option is still there but it will no longer work

[Arturien]

Hey there. I'm having an issue launching the game. I went through the bugfixes as suggested. So my problem is: I've downloaded/installed everything as per instruction. The game loads up perfectly without an issue. When I try to start the Eriador campaign, the loading bar goes all the way to the end, then crashes the game. No messages given or anything of that nature. It simply closes down the game entirely. Any thoughts?

[♔atthias♔]

Hey there. I'm having an issue launching the game. I went through the bugfixes as suggested. So my problem is: I've downloaded/installed everything as per instruction. The game loads up perfectly without an issue. When I try to start the Eriador campaign, the loading bar goes all the way to the end, then crashes the game. No messages given or anything of that nature. It simply closes down the game entirely. Any thoughts?

that sounds like a corrupted download to me
please try downloading again without doing anything else on your PC

[Gallus]

I have a question - is it still possible to get the 1.5 version of MOS? I appreciate the new features and fixes of 1.7, but I miss the smaller map. DAC map is visually impressive, but it feels so empty with only 14 factions on it. And I miss the old Rhovanion layout with the Uldonavan castle in a perfect strategic position instead of 4 settlements in random places.

[MIKE GOLF]

I have a question - is it still possible to get the 1.5 version of MOS? I appreciate the new features and fixes of 1.7, but I miss the smaller map. DAC map is visually impressive, but it feels so empty with only 14 factions on it. And I miss the old Rhovanion layout with the Uldonavan castle in a perfect strategic position instead of 4 settlements in random places.

I have 1.41 but unfortunately I do not have 1.5. I did have it on an external drive, but the drive died therefore no 1.5. I almost made a rhyme. LOL

[Aerys IV le Grand]

Hi !
I've a question : is it normal that I can't play historical battles with MOS ? When I click "Play" it returns to the main menu. I checked the historical map folder and everything is ok
That's quite embarrassing because historical battles are needed withe the Battle editor

[♔atthias♔]

Hi !
I've a question : is it normal that I can't play historical battles with MOS ? When I click "Play" it returns to the main menu. I checked the historical map folder and everything is ok
That's quite embarrassing because historical battles are needed withe the Battle editor

that is normal yes sorry
MOS is entirely campaing focused hence no fellowship campaing either

[Aerys IV le Grand]

OK thanks for the answer !
Btw thanks for your great mod, I can't play it at it's full potential because I'm on Mac but I still vey much enjoy it

[♔atthias♔]

OK thanks for the answer !Btw thanks for your great mod, I can't play it at it's full potential because I'm on Mac but I still vey much enjoy it

no problem I am glad to help I am not a member of the MOS team tough just to let you know

[Veteraan]

Well, thanks on behalf of the team then and thanks to atthias for helping out here and there.

[♔atthias♔]

Well, thanks on behalf of the team then and thanks to atthias for helping out here and there.

at your service

[Malankar Kithgalakar]

Hi! I don't know if this issue has come up before (let's just say that reading through 51 pages of thread is too much for a simple question ), but both Merry and Pippin have weird names (aka NOT Merry and Pippin or Meriadoc and Peregrin). I have already tried changing them in both descr_names and descr_strat but that just makes them have no name at all!
Any help is welcome, I love TATW and MOS and I find that a teeny little detail like that shouldn't have been overlooked.
Cheers!

[Jojo_Fr]

Is MOS is better or less good than Frog ? I do not really understand what are the important differences between these two great mods...

What is the hardest mod ? MOS or Frog ?

[MIKE GOLF]

Is MOS is better or less good than Frog ? I do not really understand what are the important differences between these two great mods...

What is the hardest mod ? MOS or Frog ?

If you have enough hard drive space why not download and install them both? Then you can compare them both first hand.

[Majordea]

I love DAC, personally, Just wish it wasn't booting me all the damn time, well I finally got MOS up and running...enhanced even perhaps if all is according....good to be back in MOS, easiest install was easily to copy the third age files from DL to same third age.. in m2tw folder, I shoulda knowed, couldn't find an exe installer in the DL and the paths I was extracting to were all incorrect or leading to me having still vanilla TATW. Now hopefully I don't encounter game ending crashes like in ohhh, say, version 1.5 I used to play before my pc dumped me.. good to see people are still doing this here.

[g2nim]

Bonjour,

I play "Dale". I taked Carvarad. I builded bowyer. But even the convertion level is high, I can't recruit archer. There is no icon. Do you have an answer ?
Merci

[Veteraan]

Right, I fired up MOS and manipulated a bit to get Caravad and a bower built there. Looks like you are right, you can't train bowmen from the entry level bower. The bower scroll is not right either, it mentions no unit that can be trained, nor its level of culture that is required. This is probably a mistake in one of the scripts. I don't know which one and what exactly has to be done, perhaps somebody that does will drop by and is kind enough to shed some light on this.

The good news is that the next level of bower should at least give you the next tier bowmen, as I noticed their scroll is at it should be, naming both unit and required culture.

[g2nim]

It's the same way for Burh Sauthis