Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Cuman Khanate

[Ltd.]

Units


Skirmishers

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Foot Archers

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Nomadic Spearmen

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Slavic Auxiliary Spearmen

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Cuman axemen

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Cuman Noble Spearmen

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Cuman macemen

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Horse Skirmishers

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Tribesmen

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Light Horse Archers

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Heavy Horse Archers

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Steppe Lancers

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Heavy Lancers

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Khan´s Lancers

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Khan and Bodyguard

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As the cuman units have been massively rehashed from the earlier version (the current youtube version also still has the earlier units) I thought I´d show you guys the latest progress.
One additional unit also made it into the roster to balance things out a bit: cuman heavy lancers

@finix: please create one additional card for them , once you have some spare time left. With them I mean only the "heavy lancers" of course, all other cards are fantastic already, no need to redo anything.

@warman: I removed lances from all cuman HA units, so we might have to take a look at the stats again. Most cavalry units however have maces and axes, so they should get a melee attack / armor piercing buff.

[BalrogOfMorgoth]

They look amazing!

[finix]

Fantastic!

[Kjertesvein]

Awesome! 2 questions:

1. What bra size does the Nomadic spearmen use?
2. Will the Cuman Khanate units be incorporated into the Mongol roster is some way? Either as Auxiliaries (same way Ostrogoths recruited Roman units) or straight into their roster?

Thanks.

~Wille

[finix]

Awesome! 2 questions:

1. What bra size does the Nomadic spearmen use?

It's armor for nipples
http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/uplo...87e8043dfd.jpg

[Ltd.]

Yep, that is correct . Cumans were smart people and knew about the hazards of war and thus made sure that their nipples were protected at all times. Their nipples were basically their Achilles' heel . Probably the mongols knew about their weakness as well...

Regarding your second question, Wille: several factions will use some cuman units, either as auxiliaries or mercenaries, though mongols, hungarians , bulgarians, rus might use them more extensively. I thought about making the light HA , the heavy HA and the heavy lancer unit be available as AOR and mercenaries.

[OutsiderKK]

I'm not saying this for nipple armor but they look great. Tribesmen look very similar to Turkoman Raiders but more Mongoloid looking, which makes sense

[Linke]

Very nice, i'd love playing this more obscure faction, creating a western Steppe confederation contring the Mongols, and then, who knows?
Just wondering, should the foot archers be that heavy, or are all Cuman low tier units basicly cavalry and they represent a "westernised"/"southernised" style of fighting?

[Ltd.]

The foot archers are actually supposed to be heavy foot archers so higher tier just to avoid an all cav roster. They are as such a medium infantry / heavy archer unit.

[Charerg]

Just a small question regarding the Cumans: weren't they reported by the Byzantines to have been "blonde and blue-eyed"? This suggests that not all of them were particularly "Asian-looking" despite their Turkic origins. It might be an idea to put a few "Caucasian-looking" dudes into the mix. That said, great work!

Edit: Here's a pic of Ladislaus I of Hungary (left) fighting a Cuman (right):

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[Lucem Mundum]

Love it!! I am blown away by how impressive they look! btw will you be adding any melee infantry in the near future?

[Lucem Mundum]

Just a small question regarding the Cumans: weren't they reported by the Byzantines to have been "blonde and blue-eyed"? This suggests that not all of them were particularly "Asian-looking" despite their Turkic origins. It might be an idea to put a few "Caucasian-looking" dudes into the mix. That said, great work!

Edit: Here's a pic of Ladislaus I of Hungary (left) fighting a Cuman (left):

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There is a thread about that in the history forum if you are interested

http://historum.com/european-history...d-kazakhs.html

[+Marius+]

2. Will the Cuman Khanate units be incorporated into the Mongol roster is some way? Either as Auxiliaries (same way Ostrogoths recruited Roman units) or straight into their roster?

I do not believe that much Cumans remained in the east after their exodus to Hungary.

I believe it is the Kipchak tribes that remained under Mongol rule.

[OutsiderKK]

Just a small question regarding the Cumans: weren't they reported by the Byzantines to have been "blonde and blue-eyed"? This suggests that not all of them were particularly "Asian-looking" despite their Turkic origins. It might be an idea to put a few "Caucasian-looking" dudes into the mix. That said, great work!

Edit: Here's a pic of Ladislaus I of Hungary (left) fighting a Cuman (right):

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Yeah it would be nice if some of them had blonde hair and colourful eyes. Kipchaks and Cumans were mostly known for their beautiful faces. But since they lived in a wide area I'm sure there was some Mongoloid looking ones too. Good idea mate...

[Lucem Mundum]

Yeah it would be nice if some of them had blonde hair and colourful eyes. Kipchaks and Cumans were mostly known for their beautiful faces. But since they lived in a wide area I'm sure there was some Mongoloid looking ones too. Good idea mate...

So your basically saying Mongoloids are ugly?

[OutsiderKK]

Never said such a thing, are you high? My ancestor were Mongoloid looking mate. But in Byzantine Chronicles they were described as being blonde and "handsome". Go ask that question to Byzantines...

[Lucem Mundum]

Never said such a thing, are you high? My ancestor were Mongoloid looking mate.

haha mine too, they were Cumans living in Egypt (probably Mamlukes).

But in Byzantine Chronicles they were described as being blonde and "handsome". Go ask that question to Byzantines...

Time to use my time machine!! brb

[OutsiderKK]

haha mine too, they were Cumans living in Egypt (probably Mamlukes).Time to use my time machine!! brb

And mine were Iğdır Tribe of Oghuz that migrated to Anatolia and (Probably) given land by Seljuks .

[Lucem Mundum]

@Ltd you didn't answer my question

[Ltd.]

Well, if you ask whether they will have access to sword or axe units then my answer would be most likely not.. I am not aware of good solid sword or axe contingents when we talk about the cumans / kipchaks. They have pretty good cavalry , both melee and missile . They also have access to basic spearmen and the slavic auxiliaries and the multi purpose archers (serving both as medium infantry and heavy archers) as well as the heavily armored noble spearmen for the later eras. But like I said, their strength is in their cavalry.