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Thread: [NB HS] Age of Newbloods (ENDED!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon. View Post
    By leaving you are creating drama also, so it is unavoidable. Also if you are gonna just drop a hotseat, because something happened with someone else, then consider the fact that you became unreliable player in the eyes of admins. What happen next if you lose a big battle or something? You gonna leave that hotseat too? Admins decide if they let you in or not in a hotseat.
    Also while the problem wasn't solved the best way in this hotseat, still this shouldn't end in massive leaving. You joined a hotseat atleast bear the consequences for it. If just leave you are causing problem to everyone else involved in this especially the admin, who willingly sacrificed his own free time to set this hotseat up for you and for the others.

    My Issue is that it was Specifically Kolu that wanted to wait, and hold up play for the Admins decision.
    Being that it was my Turn, I agreed, and waited for Admins Decision. The rules do say Admins Ruling is Final.
    So... After everybody is waiting, and eager to continue, Jadli gets on makes his final decision on the matter at hand,
    and because Kolu did not get the outcome he wanted, he is going to leave.
    That is some . Straight up..


    I know I'm a Nobody around here, mostly cause I'm only just now getting into Hotseating/Forums
    But if Kolu's behavior is Indicative of the rest of the TW Hotseating Community..
    I don't anticipate a whole lot of fun..
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    Default Re: Age of Newbloods NB HS

    We're all new here, it's a newbloods hotseat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnbreaker View Post
    We're all new here, it's a newbloods hotseat.
    Yeah, that's True..

    I suppose I was looking at it a bit differently while seeing some of you involved in other Hotseats, and this being My first and only Hotseat.
    But your Point is still Valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helltroy View Post
    My Issue is that it was Specifically Kolu that wanted to wait, and hold up play for the Admins decision.
    Being that it was my Turn, I agreed, and waited for Admins Decision. The rules do say Admins Ruling is Final.
    So... After everybody is waiting, and eager to continue, Jadli gets on makes his final decision on the matter at hand,
    and because Kolu did not get the outcome he wanted, he is going to leave.
    That is some . Straight up..


    I know I'm a Nobody around here, mostly cause I'm only just now getting into Hotseating/Forums
    But if Kolu's behavior is Indicative of the rest of the TW Hotseating Community..
    I don't anticipate a whole lot of fun..
    I appreciate what you're saying but let me clarify several things. I have played in several HS's and joined several as a replacement player per admin resquests. Never dropped out before being killed before. Have only seen someone do that once. Not at all common in the community.

    Jadli had already made his decision. I wasn't saying wait for his decision, I was attempting to help enforce it and support Jadli with comments strikingly similar to Dragon's just above my post here. He made his ruling (final per rules) and vistor messaged the player to re-do with proper save file. He then replied on the thread twice more after without changing his decision. The next day he say the complaints of the other player and 180'd on his decision. I thereby felt further cheated, betrayed and embarrassed for actively supporting him.

    I had said I would drop out if my turn was falsely skipped upfront when the issue occurred and my turn was skipped arbitrary by the other player. I didn't do so after all the waiting it was established I would. It was no minor result - 80% of my forces, entire fleet and 60% of generals lost turn two over this gross mistake.

    Several times others had agreed with my stance but the pushed ahead without assisting me. Examples:

    Zender"if there isn't battle pictures i would support replay with right save " - 30 mins before turn posted w/ battle pics I had messaged back and forth with player asking for exactly this but was ignored.

    Jadli "Kolu's position is more reasonable"

    Dragon "This situation was not handled properly"

    It was no arbitrary decision by me. Dragon's remarks are entirely right but I feel 100% justified in dropping out due to the culmination of this. His stance should not be broadly sweeping on the matter. SirCumFrance joined this community from a gaming group at my request we had been in as allies and foes for similar HS's for years. He knows this was a obvious error and is thereby standing up on it.

    This whole situation is specific to this HS; do not take it as a standard when joining any others.

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    Stop the drama already. How old are you guys ?
    If the dudes want to leave, just turn their faction AI and let's play without them.

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    I was speaking to Helltroy's concerns about people dropping out.
    Don't like what I have to say don't read it

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    Default Re: Age of Newbloods NB HS

    Well, he has to read it first in order to decide if he likes it or not, no?

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    very fair point. I suppose I shoulda said comment instead of read.

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    OK SO WHY DON'T WE JUST RESTART THIS WHOLE THING AND POSSIBLY CHOSE NEW FACTIONS USING 3.0 THIS FRIDAY?

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    I appreciate you Responding to my concerns about the Community.

    Anyhoo..

    Battle pictures were posted before Zender typed his comment.
    Kili posted the Pictures at 11:43am on the 5th.

    At 12:01Pm Zender posted this.
    Quote Originally Posted by zender9 View Post
    Lol how did you realize that you uploaded wrong save file after 30mins ? Also redwyne already post pictures, if there isn't battle pictures i would support replay with right save but now Hightower know what enemy has and if he play like this what will happen.
    So he is not supporting the replay. It hard for me to expect your turn was "Falsely skipped"
    When it falls on you to upload the file.



    Jadil also Said for you to Replay your turn at 12:08

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Lol, you all are forgetting that Hightower broke the rules! In turn 1 you mustnt attack anyone, who hasnt played his turn yet. So he has to replay.
    So, maybe you he will have to send 3rd save...


    And then at 12:17 he posted (Feel like everybody is missing this post)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Whoops . You guys played turn 1 so fast that i still thought its turn 1.
    His basis was he thought you broke the rules.




    So then we players jibberjabbered till Then the next time he posted was 11:58 to sort all of this out. where he ended up deciding against your position.


    Was it badly handled? most likely..
    But you are also one of the more experienced players here in a hotseat full of newbloods..
    Still feel like you could have just rolled with it, and continued.


    Anyway, I don't know why I felt the need to type all that.
    Maybe I'm just bummed about the Hotseat.
    Was really starting to get into it.



    3 more Days till 3.0 though.


    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Satin View Post
    Stop the drama already. How old are you guys ?
    If the dudes want to leave, just turn their faction AI and let's play without them.
    Who is being the dramatic one..?


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodamus View Post
    OK SO WHY DON'T WE JUST RESTART THIS WHOLE THING AND POSSIBLY CHOSE NEW FACTIONS USING 3.0 THIS FRIDAY?

    Totally down for that!
    Last edited by Helltroy; December 08, 2015 at 06:28 PM.
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    Very fair points.

    I found Jadli's comments afterwords simply a further justification for his original basis which stood alone as:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Use correct save pls, I dont believe kolu would be soo stupid to do something like this
    Also Zender further clarified his reasoning as being subjective:

    Quote Originally Posted by zender9 View Post
    Because of you are my enemy of course im not defending you in this case.
    And also it was not a matter of knowing who the enemy is as I was the aggressor.

    Regardless I apologize for any impact by me on the game for you. Me and Kill but stated we would drop out so it was a zero sum game for us both in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolu2210 View Post
    Very fair points.

    I found Jadli's comments afterwords simply a further justification for his original basis which stood alone as:



    Also Zender further clarified his reasoning as being subjective:



    And also it was not a matter of knowing who the enemy is as I was the aggressor.

    Regardless I apologize for any impact by me on the game for you. Me and Kill but stated we would drop out so it was a zero sum game for us both in the end.
    That comment From Jadli was also posted before he realized it was turn 2.
    But it does serve to show that the situation as a whole was mismanaged.
    That is clear.

    Oh Well..
    is what it is..
    Now we wait for 3.0. haha
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    Default Re: Age of Newbloods NB HS

    Ok, we relaunch once 3.0 is out.
    Dryland will be turned AI, and Satin gets Hightower. We also need new Peake it seems, so if any of you want Peake, just say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Ok, we relaunch once 3.0 is out.
    We also need new Peake it seems, so if any of you want Peake, just say it.
    uh, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnbreaker View Post
    uh, what?
    3.0 should be released in 2-3 days. With current situation we would need several replacements

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    But you phrased it in a way you're asking one of us, the players, if we want house Peake too, which can't be right because that would mean someone plays more than one faction, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnbreaker View Post
    But you phrased it in a way you're asking one of us, the players, if we want house Peake too, which can't be right because that would mean someone plays more than one faction, right?

    I think he means to exclude Kolu, and Sercumface from the new one.
    Seeing as how Hightower, and peake are their factions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Ok, we relaunch once 3.0 is out.
    Dryland will be turned AI, and Satin gets Hightower. We also need new Peake it seems, so if any of you want Peake, just say it.
    That's really the best decision. We have already a lot more factions in game then originaly meant and a fresh start could be the solution to solve this conflicting situation.

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    Default Re: Age of Newbloods NB HS

    Kolu and Sircum obviously dont wanna continue in this HS, so their factions need to be replaced. I asked one of you to take Peake instead of your faction

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    Default Re: Age of Newbloods NB HS

    Ok then. Just waiting on Tarbeck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Lets get back on track. Dayne subbed, Tarbeck up http://www.mediafire.com/download/d9..._Tarbeck_2.sav
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