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    A young man entered a Swedish school this morning wearing a mask while equipped with a sword and several knives. At first he was posing with several of the pupils at the school but when a teacher tried to remove the mask he started to attack people. Police arrived quickly at the scene and shot the perpetrator who here is shown posing together with some of the students prior to the attack.

    The picture is non violent but contain a word in Swedish that mean "damn"
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    This attack is going to have huge political implications in Sweden but it is still too early to tell in exactly what direction. The actions of the murderer makes me strongly doubt that this was a neo-Nazi attack as some people argued. At the same time it is really weird that a young ethnic Swede decide to attack a Swedish school which he never attended and where the majority of the pupils got a foreign background.

    Furthermore the likely perpetrator is claiming to like KMFDM, Rammstein, Marilyn Manson and Suicide Commano which is a list that almost look inspired by Eric Harris from Columbine. I also checked his Youtube account (which unfortunately is linked to his name so I don't want to post it before he is confirmed as the perpetrator) and he seem to really be the archetypical loser who take to the internet to share and partake in a mixture of racism, misogyny and and general "anti-establishment" views.

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    Police, who were alerted about the attack at around 10.10am, said they had identified the suspect, a 21-year-old local resident.

    Media reports said the assailant was wearing a Star Wars mask, and school children initially thought it was a prank.

    "When we first saw him, we thought it was a joke. He was wearing a mask and black clothes and (carrying) a long sword. Some students warned to take their picture with him and feel the sword," one unidentified pupil told TT.

    Swedish broadcaster TV4 has suggested that officers are investigating a possible political motive for the attack and suggested that the suspect was known to be against rising immigration in the area.

    But police did not immediately respond to the claims.
    And this is the kind of stuff he was watching on Youtube. Please note that it contains a lot of references to "mainstream media" and other swear words.


    Edit: According to media reports the image above was actually taken after the first attacks. A teacher then approached him and tried to remove the mask but got stabbed and further attacks then followed.
    Last edited by Adar; October 22, 2015 at 09:09 AM.

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    What a crank.

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    The Amazing Atheist, huh... he's not exactly a great guy, that's true. I don't even like him, though some of his videos I do find funny. I don't think watching his videos had much to do with the whole incident, though.

    Honestly this looks like the typical lunatic description to me. A serial killer kills (or tries to kill) several people with a longsword. A lunatic does the same, but dressed up like Darth Vader.
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    If that picture is for real, it looks like he's wearing some kind of WW2 helmet. To be honest there's not a great deal of difference between school shooters and Neo-Nazi mass murderers of this type, the kind of person who looks up to the Columbine kids is the same kind of person who looks up to Dylan Roof and Breivik. Also, it does have to be said, this might have been a lot worse with American levels of gun control.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    If that picture is for real, it looks like he's wearing some kind of WW2 helmet. To be honest there's not a great deal of difference between school shooters and Neo-Nazi mass murderers of this type, the kind of person who looks up to the Columbine kids is the same kind of person who looks up to Dylan Roof and Breivik. Also, it does have to be said, this might have been a lot worse with American levels of gun control.
    Why does it have to be said? How is it relevant?

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    Looks like similar teenage angsty bad industrial music listening likely school bullied kid like the finnish ones who went school shooting last decade. SSRIs, depression and not having friends were also common themes to finnish ones, too early to say about this swede.

    The finnish ones also liked KMFDM, Suicide Commando, :wumpscut: and the likes. These poor kids should have grown out of their angsty phase instead of this lunacy. And maybe also learned to like some more decent industrial music instead like Skinny Puppy, Coil and such.

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    Manifesto is usual teenage angsty ego defence mechanism type of tripe of how the school bullied lonesome kid is an individualist and far more intellectual than the "masses" and so forth. And some naive and simplistic pseudo far right cliches thrown in the mix, probably learned from favourite crappy industrial band idols interview or something.

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    All in all, pathetic and sad.

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    Oh, a crime comitted by someone who watched The Amazing Atheist and listened to metal and industrial music, I wonder if he also had a sink and slept in a bed and watched TV and liked the color blue? It's amazing how many of these school murderers regularly used running water, often the very same day they committed their crimes: coincidence? Certainly not. All correlations are likely causations if they fit the political agenda of an OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Himster View Post
    Oh, a crime comitted by someone who watched The Amazing Atheist and listened to metal and industrial music, I wonder if he also had a sink and slept in a bed and watched TV and liked the color blue? It's amazing how many of these school murderers regularly used running water, often the very same day they committed their crimes: coincidence? Certainly not. All correlations are likely causations if they fit the political agenda of an OP.
    Well, 3 school killers, 1 in sweden, 2 in finland, all listened KMFDM like Columbine High School Massacre Eric Harris, at that point its no longer just random coincidence but appears like they used Columbine for "inspiration" and are sort of copycats and idolising.

    Noone is though claiming its fault of some crappy industrial band, video games, youtube videos of Hitler's Biggest Tanks or something trivial like that. But when there are obvious links between all these killers, its worth a mention still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    Also, it does have to be said, this might have been a lot worse with American levels of gun control.
    True since you can't have a CCW in a school zone. Shame.

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    all listened KMFDM

    Noone is though claiming its fault of some crappy industrial band,

    I was just at a KMFDM concert. It was all 45+ year olds. It was awful too, the backup female singer married the lead singer and suddenly shes doing half the songs, just awful. Left early.
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    Greatcoat, stahlenhelm, soft gun mask and some type of longsword, guess it's good there was no MP44's around. I bet he thought he looked cool.

    These mental nutcases are becoming more and more common in Scandinavia. Which is very worrisome. I think it's a matter of the social debate on immigration that makes them take the extra step outside their wierd conspiracy theory infused bubble worlds and into this kind of action. I guess if anything it's counter productive because like the Breivik attacks people are just going to respond by standing closer together. Nothing like a common enemy to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maiar93 View Post

    Honestly this looks like the typical lunatic description to me. A serial killer kills (or tries to kill) several people with a longsword. A lunatic does the same, but dressed up like Darth Vader.
    A Serial killer IS a lunatic.
    And this guy is a lunatic mass murderer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    True since you can't have a CCW in a school zone. Shame..
    Even if everyone there carried a gun, the perpetrator would have killed like 5-6 people before anyone recovered from shock, took cover, draw his own gun and killed him.
    Thankfully a lunatic doesn't have access to a gun in Sweden so he had to do with swords.
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    I thought this was satire.

    So what is it now? Loon drank water ---> beware the water drinkers?

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    The fire rises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    Why does it have to be said? How is it relevant?
    Because we live in a globalised world. Sweden is not a vacuum, it exists inside the umbrella of the Western world with all that entails. This guy watched American media and was influenced by American news events, as well as events elsewhere in Europe (Norway, Finland, and the migrant crisis). He got the idea of going on this kind of rampage from outside Sweden, which begs the question: why didn't he use a gun, like all his idols who influenced his attack? The only possible reason is that it was too difficult for him to get one. If you can't learn from your own mistakes, at least try to learn from other people's successes.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    Because we live in a globalised world. Sweden is not a vacuum, it exists inside the umbrella of the Western world with all that entails. This guy watched American media and was influenced by American news events, as well as events elsewhere in Europe (Norway, Finland, and the migrant crisis). He got the idea of going on this kind of rampage from outside Sweden, which begs the question: why didn't he use a gun, like all his idols who influenced his attack? The only possible reason is that it was too difficult for him to get one. If you can't learn from your own mistakes, at least try to learn from other people's successes.
    Okay, so then why aren't you comparing it to the world and just to America? I assume this is just you trying to push your anti-American agenda again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    Okay, so then why aren't you comparing it to the world and just to America? I assume this is just you trying to push your anti-American agenda again.
    ... my 'anti-American agenda' which is shared by the elected president of America? And OK, I'll compare it to all the other school attacks happening in the Western world in recent weeks. Or not.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Has anyone checked if he wasn't acting out his Star Wars fantasies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers II View Post
    Because we live in a globalised world. Sweden is not a vacuum, it exists inside the umbrella of the Western world with all that entails. This guy watched American media and was influenced by American news events, as well as events elsewhere in Europe (Norway, Finland, and the migrant crisis). He got the idea of going on this kind of rampage from outside Sweden, which begs the question: why didn't he use a gun, like all his idols who influenced his attack? The only possible reason is that it was too difficult for him to get one. If you can't learn from your own mistakes, at least try to learn from other people's successes.
    Awesome. Blame Murica.

    The guy had a " YouTube account where he posted material glorifying Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, and was critical of Islam and immigration". First part has nothing to do with the US, the second is certainly not limited to the US but rather a world wide concept.

    Is this your argument for stricter gun control as he used other weapons to kill other than guns and therefore the kill rate is less? Why not ban swords then? One could easily argue there is a less reason to have them period then guns. Don't know too many that go hunting for deer with a katana.
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    His argument is "if Americans banned guns then Americans wouldn't be killing each other and so Europeans would have no reason to be inspired by Americans to kill each other."

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    Smells like another Breivik.

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