It used to be very common for kids to have access to guns. Not so much now.
It used to be very common for kids to have access to guns. Not so much now.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
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I would put this to gun lobby apologists ( I draw a distinction between those and genuine enthusiasts or those who use guns for sport or work).
Do Americans have the right to blast someone away, simply because they are disappointed with something, whether it is access to puppies, not being popular at school, the mere existence of black people in the US, and so on?
Not good with strategic thinking though, given the course of recent wars.
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"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
It does not matter the Israelis did this. What matter is different people perceive differently who is a combatant and who is not, who is legitimate and who is know. A small armed group of extremist may honestly perceive itself representative of the whole population.
Obviously a group of citizen taking arms against a central authority will not perceive itself as an obscure violent group who aimed to impose its political ideal force in place of elections. Instead they will feel like they are a group of heroic combatant fighting against an evil repressive state.
If you blow up a military base you are not a terrorist.
If you blow up a McDonald's you are a terrorist.
If you blow up a police station, we can talk and decide.
Thats not to say just not being a terrorist make the attack justified, or less worthy of punishment. Its just a description.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
You kill the leader of a violent far right armed movement who want to topple the current government. Is it terrorism or precise spec op ?
You kill an important from a militant group in his house (in a country like Yemen). Is it terrorism or counter terrorism ?
Some dudes decide to march on the capitol with weapons as they do not want the federal state to interfere in their lives. Terrorists or resistants ?
A service man is killed in a far away country. Is it terrorism as the poor man did not expected to be attacked or heroic resistance against an occupation force ?
At what point does a militant group cease to be a non governmental identity and so a terrorist group ? When it fully control a region ? When it takes a urban center ? A country ?
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>You kill the leader of a violent far right armed movement who want to topple the current government. Is it terrorism or precise spec op ?
Spec op.
>You kill an important from a militant group in his house (in a country like Yemen). Is it terrorism or counter terrorism ?
Counter terrorism
>Some dudes decide to march on the capitol with weapons as they do not want the federal state to interfere in their lives. Terrorists or resistants ?
Neither its a march, so they are protestors.
>A service man is killed in a far away country. Is it terrorism as the poor man did not expected to be attacked or heroic resistance against an occupation force ?
Heroic is a loaded term, but its going to depend on a lot of factors. Most likely not terrorism though. You weren't quite clear.
>At what point does a militant group cease to be a non governmental identity and so a terrorist group ?
When they stop committing acts of terror. Then they can just be an oppressive government.
>When it fully control a region ? When it takes a urban center ? A country ?
Every king had a brigand as a ancestor.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
This is a terribly unidimensional perception of the world.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Who cares because terrorism is a loaded and largely meaningless term that has morphed from the original definition in the 1800s of "government ruling and controlling the population by fear and terror" to now meaning "any act of resistance against globalists and authoritarians."
America's Founding Fathers used to tar and feather tax collectors and they organized hit/run raids on British soldiers, not to mention the Boston Tea Party where they destroyed the valuable cargo of a British merchant ship. All of those actions would likely be considered "terrorism" today.
When American politicians say "terrorist" what that means is "people who are resisting domination by America and its NATO puppets."
The term has been completely disconnected from its historical meaning and its origin.
Terrorism is what happened in France under Robespierre and in the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s, it is government ruling by terror.
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"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Charging an 11 year old as an adult isn't going to solve this problem. Imposing vicarious criminal liability on the father either for negligent homicide or negligent care of a firearm might be a start. It's clear we can't ban firearms - the constitution or the misreading thereof depending on your perspective precludes that. We need to attack the problem from a different angle.
Hunter Education classes used to happen in 4th grade in America, and used age appropriate language to help prevent accidents in the field and children coming across a loaded handgun and discharging it.
None of my kids had even a squirtgun because guns are tools not toys. 12 year olds can responsibly learn to shoot and hunt.
In 2011, there were only 102 deaths of children who accidentally discharged out of 311 million citizens. Let's be reasonable. That's minuscule. In 2012, there were 411 deaths if you add up suicides, accidents, and homicides. There's a 2013 article with no data source that mentions a combined 259 accidental discharge deaths from 1999-2007. Again this is very small out of 300 million Americans. In 2014, there were 90 accidental discharge deaths. Another article from 2015 mentions 24. This is rather ridiculous compared to pressing child safety issues.
By comparison, 350 kids drown every year. Many were preventable toddler drownings in buckets, and tragic, but extremely small given our size.
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I'm not sure there IS a problem to attack, gun wise anyways.
http://fox17online.com/2015/08/30/tr...-old-to-death/
Who and meet the parents...
May 2013: A child abuse investigation was underway against Lawhorn's parents, Anita Lawhorn and Bernard Harrold. Child Protective Services (CPS) was called to Lawhorn's home; the CPS worker found marks on Jamarion and "deplorable" living conditions. However, records show that this CPS worker never reported this incident to Kentwood Police.
March 2015: Anita Lawhorn back behind bars on felony Welfare fraud charges. <----Mom
August 2015: Bernard Harrold pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of child abuse, and gets a habitual offender charge dropped. Harrold is scheduled to be sentenced in September. <---- Dad?
So if anything, the issue isn't guns but crappy parenting.
And then we have this one...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...ster-stabbing/
An 11-year-old Illinois girl was stabbed 40 times by her 14-year-old sister, police say, and the reason why has many in the small Chicago-area community of Mundelein reeling in disbelief.
(Apparently they didn't release names on this one)
Or this one...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/justic...ath/index.html
A 12-year-old California boy accused of stabbing his 8-year-old sister to death was charged Wednesday with second-degree murder.
Or this one...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/justic...boy-sentenced/
A 13-year-old Louisiana boy has been sentenced to three years in a secure juvenile facility for killing his 5-year-old half-sister by performing pro-style wrestling moves on her, a court spokeswoman told CNN Wednesday.
And then stuff like this...
This comes after police released Hy-Vee surveillance video on Tuesday of the 13- and 14-year-old suspects. Officers received several tips as a result and arrested the two boys Wednesday morning.
Or just to end it this one.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crime...8/20/14149362/
11-year-old girl arrested after stabbing her mother 9 times
So for people (Europeans) to harp on this one as a "gun problem" doesn't really connect. Yes its shocking an 11 year old would shoot an 8 year old over a puppy. Its also shocking that a sister stab her sister 40 times over feeling "unappreciated".
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"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Phier! Don't confuse the liberal gun control narrative with facts!