Consilium de Civitate Service Medals

[Ngugi]

The Consilium de Civitate Service Medal is awarded to former members of the Consilium at the discretion of the Curator.

As the CedC is no longer active, this medal is properly discontinued, from historical, logical and practical perspective.
The single reasonable amendment of this medal is to extend it to those who nowadays continue the CdeC purpose and practice, a.k.a vote on citizenship > the entire citizenry > those citizens who activly participate in citizenship votes. And I'm not in favour of such a development of the medal, it's far to broad and subjective for what I can imagine, and would still not mirror the initial purpose of the medal (which was CdeC service).

For an analogy, that is fitting to me; as the sport "tug of war/rope pulling" was in the Olympics till 1920, when it was discountinued, the "tug of war/rope pulling" medals were not kept on being distributed for other sports, or used when other sports were added. Their purpose was spent, and they while they were not recalled because their role was played out (which would make little sense, as they were earned in their historical context), new medals were added for new sports.

Let the CdeC medal be, and let's move on.

[mishkin]

As the CedC is no longer active, this medal is properly discontinued, from historical, logical and practical perspective.
The single reasonable amendment of this medal is to extend it to those who nowadays continue the CdeC purpose and practice, a.k.a vote on citizenship > the entire citizenry > those citizens who activly participate in citizenship votes. And I'm not in favour of such a development of the medal, it's far to broad and subjective for what I can imagine, and would still not mirror the initial purpose of the medal (which was CdeC service)

My point of view was extending it to magistrates, censors, curators (curia jobs) and citizens with a remarkable presence in the curia.

Anyway, hopefully the Curia Service Award will do the job.

[Omnipotent-Q]

depends on your definition of progress I personally believe we were better off with the CdeC.

Of course you do - it gave you the opportunity to earn your precious medals and have a shiny badge for little or no work at all. Of course you liked that system. Maybe your sacrifice of getting Cdec profile bling for little input is worth it considering normal members can now at least have a chance to get citizenship!

[Lord William]

Of course you do - it gave you the opportunity to earn your precious medals and have a shiny badge for little or no work at all. Of course you liked that system. Maybe your sacrifice of getting Cdec profile bling for little input is worth it considering normal members can now at least have a chance to get citizenship!

Omni if it makes you happy we can easily remove medals and rewards from the CdeC. I personally am more interested in the regulation of citizens and making sure they go through a rigorous and proper application process. The current system holds no one accountable for who or what they vote for and that in my humble opinion isn't right.

[Genius of the Restoration]

Let's not remove awards en masse because some may not appreciate now the minimum effort required. For every bad councillor there was a Ybbon, a mongoose to my snake etc.

I agree with Ngugi, leave the CdeC medal be. I don't think we need to continually differentiate new levels of contribution to the Curia. It's not a big part of the site; just a part that focuses on awards. Don't allow that focus to distort the true aim which is to recognise those that do good on the site. Spending too much time recognising the people who are doing the recognising turns it into self-promotion and discredits the whole exercise. The current service medal is enough for everything that happens here.

[Halie Satanus]

I wouldn't take any one's existing medal but *this should have been removed ages ago.

*Consilium de Civitate Service

The Consilium de Civitate Service Medal is awarded to former members of the Consilium at the discretion of the Curator. The bronze medal is given for two completed terms as a member of the Consilium de Civitate; the silver medal is given for four completed terms; the gold medal is given for six completed terms; and the emerald medal for 12 completed terms. The Curator is only eligible if he served the sufficient number of completed terms outside his capacity as Curator. These medals shall be awarded to all those who qualify, past and present.

[PikeStance]

Omni if it makes you happy we can easily remove medals and rewards from the CdeC. I personally am more interested in the regulation of citizens and making sure they go through a rigorous and proper application process. The current system holds no one accountable for who or what they vote for and that in my humble opinion isn't right.

I do not think this is necessarily true;

• CdeC was not really held accountable for their action due to the fact that membership was a revolving door.
• There are about +/- 15 members of the Curia that regularly participate in the process. Moreover, the additional participant would often add something to the discussion. Theses participant may have voted in CdeC elections but not very likely to run for it.
• Many of the active participants were voted in post abolishing the CdeC. Going through the list, I can't see any undeserving members.

Let's not remove awards en masse because some may not appreciate now the minimum effort required. For every bad councillor there was a Ybbon, a mongoose to my snake etc.
I agree with Ngugi, leave the CdeC medal be. I don't think we need to continually differentiate new levels of contribution to the Curia. It's not a big part of the site; just a part that focuses on awards. Don't allow that focus to distort the true aim which is to recognise those that do good on the site. Spending too much time recognising the people who are doing the recognising turns it into self-promotion and discredits the whole exercise. The current service medal is enough for everything that happens here.

There is a fine line between an overindulgence of patting on the back and incentive to award deserving members for contribution.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Aye...When they try and reach in your pocket, fishing for shinies, giv'em the shaft!

Like it or not the CdeC had it's time. Leave that reference in the past, where it belongs.
............Current Curialists can aspire towards things such as these, which reminds me I have a presentation yet to give...

[Spiff]

Medals probably shouldn't be in the constitution to begin with, rather it should have outlined the process for creating and deleting them. If only we'd had the foresight!

[Halie Satanus]

Medals probably shouldn't be in the constitution to begin with, rather it should have outlined the process for creating and deleting them. If only we'd had the foresight!

What would the curia have done for the last 8-ish years if foresight was a thing..

Nice to see you back, that does seem to be a thing at the moment. (Sibz was here a few days ago), wonder who'll turn up next..

[mishkin]

I would like to meet that Crandar.