Bring back the old TW battlefield unit banners

[BALDWIN IV]

Im passionately hating the little yellow/red squares CA put over the units and i hope any other tw game have them again, Ive been looking for a mod that brings banners without success, there are litteraly 2 posts on steams forum about this and (as far as i know) none on tw center. I started to think (on a funny note) is some conspiracy theory to black out the fact that may people dont like these dredful squares (I know im not the only one nor can i be) so please if you know a mod or are interested in one to change this game braker feature point me out in the right direcction, i swear ill make the mod myself if there is none

[LestaT]

Im passionately hating the little yellow/red squares CA put over the units and i hope any other tw game have them again, Ive been looking for a mod that brings banners without success, there are litteraly 2 posts on steams forum about this and (as far as i know) none on tw center. I started to think (on a funny note) is some conspiracy theory to black out the fact that may people dont like these dredful squares (I know im not the only one nor can i be) so please if you know a mod or are interested in one to change this game braker feature point me out in the right direcction, i swear ill make the mod myself if there is none

This is the age of Dota2 and TW Attila is the product of that era.

[Legio X Gemina]

Im passionately hating the little yellow/red squares CA put over the units and i hope any other tw game have them again, Ive been looking for a mod that brings banners without success, there are litteraly 2 posts on steams forum about this and (as far as i know) none on tw center. I started to think (on a funny note) is some conspiracy theory to black out the fact that may people dont like these dredful squares (I know im not the only one nor can i be) so please if you know a mod or are interested in one to change this game braker feature point me out in the right direcction, i swear ill make the mod myself if there is none

To each his own. I found the banners stupid and unrealistic. The squares make more sense to me.

[BALDWIN IV]

To each his own. I found the banners stupid and unrealistic. The squares make more sense to me.

OH boy, you made my day, its like a deja vu coming right in your face. I knew at some point "Mr. Historical Acuraccy/Realism" would come around to point at my face how unrealistic the gigantic banners are ,

Well im sorry to tell you this buddy but, ssshhhh, you are not fighting a real battle, nor you are fighting in a real place with real people,, you are just interacting with some pixels in a simulation behaving in the way its creators told it to behave,,,

Going back to the banners, since finding total war 11 years ago and playing shogun total war back then i became used to them, every game after that have had them (exept attila) so its sort of like an iconic feature of TW games, like part of their soul, besides i really like the visual aid, not to trash on people who dont like them but CA should've given the option to have/remove them to suit both sides of the spectrum like previous games not just replace them completely with red and yellow thingis

[Garensterz]

To each his own. I found the banners stupid and unrealistic. The squares make more sense to me.

I just don't see how squares became more realistic than banners.

[Legio X Gemina]

I just don't see how squares became more realistic than banners.

I always thought it was because the banners could always accidentally be associated with actually being real (at least that's what I thought they wanted to simulate), and that the squares were too unrealistic to be considered historically accurate with the game.

OH boy, you made my day, its like a deja vu coming right in your face. I knew at some point "Mr. Historical Acuraccy/Realism" would come around to point at my face how unrealistic the gigantic banners are ,

Well im sorry to tell you this buddy but, ssshhhh, you are not fighting a real battle, nor you are fighting in a real place with real people,, you are just interacting with some pixels in a simulation behaving in the way its creators told it to behave,,,

Going back to the banners, since finding total war 11 years ago and playing shogun total war back then i became used to them, every game after that have had them (exept attila) so its sort of like an iconic feature of TW games, like part of their soul, besides i really like the visual aid, not to trash on people who dont like them but CA should've given the option to have/remove them to suit both sides of the spectrum like previous games not just replace them completely with red and yellow thingis

There's no need to start ad hominems and starting putting others down for having a separate opinion on the forum. As I said, to each his own. I wasn't criticizing your decision, but I wasn't criticizing CA's either. I got used to the flags too, but I also got used to the squares.

[BALDWIN IV]

There's no need to start ad hominems and starting putting others down for having a separate opinion on the forum. As I said, to each his own. I wasn't criticizing your decision, but I wasn't criticizing CA's either. I got used to the flags too, but I also got used to the squares.

Absolutely nothing personal mate, what I meant was that the croud calling small details "stupid & unrealistic" should just chill and enjoy things for what they are I also clearly pointed out that people should be able to choose to have them on/off whether they like them or not like we use to have in previous titles where you could toggle them if you didnt want them. In fact i believe we should be able to have them both and even more, we should have a set of markers (banners, flags, squares, triangles, circles, rectangles, stars, whatever) to please all personal tastes, this is not a very technically complicated feature, actually is a very simple one so I dont see why CA shouldnt make everyone happy on that matter

[Legio X Gemina]

Absolutely nothing personal mate, what I meant was that the croud calling small details "stupid & unrealistic" should just chill and enjoy things for what they are I also clearly pointed out that people should be able to choose to have them on/off whether they like them or not like we use to have in previous titles where you could toggle them if you didnt want them. In fact i believe we should be able to have them both and even more, we should have a set of markers (banners, flags, squares, triangles, circles, rectangles, stars, whatever) to please all personal tastes, this is not a very technically complicated feature, actually is a very simple one so I dont see why CA shouldnt make everyone happy on that matter

Aye, and I have no issue with that. It'd be nice if CA made it a choice rather than a mandated feature. Though I don't think they foresaw this type of complication when they added these in. Let's hope a mod can fix this up.

[craziii]

To each his own. I found the banners stupid and unrealistic. The squares make more sense to me.

to be honest I found both to be unrealistic. which is why I don't care either way.

[BALDWIN IV]

to be honest I found both to be unrealistic. which is why I don't care either way.

Which is why im not trying to argue over the realism of banners/squares/nothing, its all about personal taste.

Aye, and I have no issue with that. It'd be nice if CA made it a choice rather than a mandated feature. Though I don't think they foresaw this type of complication when they added these in. Let's hope a mod can fix this up.

Surely they didnt foresee it, though im sure at least one individual at CA might have been dissapointed with the change (not 100% sure but i would bet on it), as for a mod, well so far i havent seen anything related to this in the moding scene, at least not around here, maybe im missing something who knows, thats part of the reason i made this thread to try to get some attention, if not from an already existing project then from members with moddng experience to point me out where to start, from there im pretty confident i can come up with something, itll be really cool to see some shreded flags waving over the hunnic hordes razing over europe

[Lugotorix]

Since when are the banners not realistic? Every army in Japan to Europe pre-Empire era has had a standard bearer representing their regiment, (sometimes with a drummer which are actual units in TW titles) This started with the mons of the original Shogun, and went on into further titles. There are standard bearers in Attila, (they're actually units on the battlefield holding a standard, usually with a boar or a dragon head etc.) A banner makes just as much sense, especially for the Romans. You can see them in the concept art of various titles (Rome II's Lion Hirpini, and Belisarius' army with Justinian's portrait for Attila)

[Joshua the Bear]

I actually like the squares better. The banners took up a lot of screen space for what they offered, whilst the little squares are small yet very easy to read, allowing me to see the units more.

[Legio X Gemina]

Since when are the banners not realistic? Every army in Japan to Europe pre-Empire era has had a standard bearer representing their regiment, (sometimes with a drummer which are actual units in TW titles) This started with the mons of the original Shogun, and went on into further titles. There are standard bearers in Attila, (they're actually units on the battlefield holding a standard, usually with a boar or a dragon head etc.) A banner makes just as much sense, especially for the Romans. You can see them in the concept art of various titles (Rome II's Lion Hirpini, and Belisarius' army with Justinian's portrait for Attila)

There's a difference between a unit holding the banner and a floating one over the entire unit.

[BALDWIN IV]

I actually like the squares better. The banners took up a lot of screen space for what they offered, whilst the little squares are small yet very easy to read, allowing me to see the units more.

Aren't people reading the posts in this threat ?

[craziii]

Aren't people reading the posts in this threat ?

there are no mod because not many players care enough about it.

[FrozenmenSS]

the problem with the new banners is you feel you are fighting one faction all over again in a game om chess on the checkerboard combined with the game rock parer scisors ,but with difrent units for that faction. In the older TW games this ilusion was masked behind the Faction banners.Now its Spear beat cav,cav beat archers and so on.

On the Campaign map it was fixed btw
example: this mod
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=446942281

[Joshua the Bear]

Aren't people reading the posts in this threat ?

I did, actually, but since there's no mods for them you gotto learn to love 'em :p

[Fanest]

I find these boxes much more informative than what we used to have before - just the indication of ammo left, and unit type is a huge benefit imo. Though a banner here and there would hurt as well i think

[Humble Warrior]

I simply disabled floating Banners. That`s most realistic.

[Sir_Pee_Alot]

I simply disabled floating Banners. That`s most realistic.

Me too better then those big flooters ingame, Only in RTW II you still get those ugly rond shadows on the ground.

The best way and realistic way is that the units have there own banners