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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    Rule of thumb: if you enable windowed mode then the in game resolution has to be at least your desktop's resolution. Else you will get the partial screen window.










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    Hi everyone ! I bought myself Rome:Total War during christmas sales and at first it didn't work. I looked at a lot of guides and managed to get it working, so I can play but I still have a problem.

    In battle map, when I play at normal or double game speed, I have 20-30 fps (wich is very low for an old game, I thought my GTX970 would render with great FPS) which is playable but when I get to triple game speed my fps fall down to 1 fps (actually, I think that steam overlay can't display less than 1 fps cause it feels like 1 frame per 5 seconds...).

    I don't understand how this happens, I tried everything I could find on the Internet but nothing works.

    Thanks for reading me, I hope someone can help me.

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    I've seen this as well - disk copy (not Steam) - and it seems to be a CPU limitation rather than a GPU limitation.
    I can see my GPU idling with nothing to do but the CPU is maxed out trying to keep up.
    eg if I run my CPU at the default 2.4GHz it's noticeably worse, if I overclock to 3.4GHz it's a lot better.

    Remember, it's a single CPU game and the CPU handles the unit movement and pathfinding - so the GPU isn't really much help there.
    My GPU is a GTX780 and it's more than enough for the game - large unit size, high levels of detail - no problems. Anything above that is nice but doesn't actually help.

    I've never used Steam do I don't know if there's any additional overhead from that.
    Use double or triple speed to get your units across the battlefield and into position, then drop down into normal speed to handle the actual engagement.

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    It is indeed a single-cored-CPU-game.
    So your i3 might behave better even than an i7, occassionally.
    This is not the issue.

    The issue on triple speed during battle is mostly due to game-engine (I think) and thusly unfixable in most occurences.

    I only just today upped to 16gb RAM, a Kingston SSD to run the game from and a Gigabyte GTX1070 for GPU to test more hardcore stuff through RTW..
    Let me get back to you on this one though.
    My old rig worked just fine (8gb RAM, normal HDD, GT630), never went below 30fps on battle-map, unless on double-/triple-speed.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Ok, I checked in the task manager, during a battle in triple speed my CPU usage is 45%-50% and the speed is at 3.66GHz (over the max 3.3GHz speed of my i5-6600).

    So there's nothing to do?

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    I think it is a limitation of the game's engine to run on triple speed with anything higher than "small" unit sizes..
    Not a 100% on this, but this is what seems most likely to me after years of playing this game on different rigs..
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    I just upgraded from:
    Asus P8B75-M LX PLUS with an intel i7 3770 3.4GHz and 2x 4GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance from a WD 500GB HDD and Asus GeForce 630 2GB
    To:
    Asus P8B75-M LX PLUS with an intel i7 3770 3.4GHz and 2x 8GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Pro from a Kingston HyperX 480gb SSD and Gigabyte GTX1070 OC8GB Windforce

    I did a clean install of win10pro on this new SSD, instead of my old rig, where I updated from win7ult.
    Downloaded the game freshly from Steam onto this new SSD.
    Performed the steps I described in the original post.
    Everything works.

    So it isn't a hardware issue, it's just about setting up your software properly I guess.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    So you can play in triple speed with acceptable FPS? (30 minimum)
    I followed every step in the original post but I'm still at <1 to 4 FPS in triple speed.

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    I can play a battle in triple speed with normal FPS, unless it's a massive battle on unit setting Huge. In which case I'm sure it has nothing to do with hardware anymore, but with the game's engine.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by qzmp View Post
    I'm having a slightly different problem.

    I'm running the game on my laptop, and it's launches well. The problem is that i cannot force it to use my second graphics card, GeForce 860m. I've set the usage of it in the Nvidia control panel, i'm choosing it by right clicking on .exe or shortcut and choosing the card, but it still runs on integrated one.
    My graphics drivers are on date, i've tried to run the game as admin as well.

    It seems that the GeForce runs for a second after launching, but i'm not even sure of that.
    I don't have the problem with any other game, although i haven't played many that old on Win 10.

    Thanks for any help.
    I seem to have a similar issue.
    I have a 980M, but I can't seem to run Rome (vanilla/BI/ALX) with the Nvidia card.
    I tried to force it through the Nvidia control panel, or with the right-click menu ("run with graphics processor", etc).

    I run compatibility mode, as admin, set affinity to 1 CPU, the '-ne' flag, graphics settings to lowest and in the campaign I get 10-13 fps unfortunately. Probably because it uses the integrated GPU.

    Anyone have a suggestion what to do?

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    I remember some other posts about this.. Lemme try to find them for you.

    Here's one:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...dern-computers
    Here's another:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...rated-Graphics

    And I also remember finding another little fix for this, but not sure where.
    If I remember/find it I will let you know!
    Last edited by Skizzy; May 09, 2017 at 06:09 AM.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    Thx Skizzy, I used your settings and R1 is now better, playable for me.

    But I am still unhappy becos Medieval II is totally mess. My FPS 1-10 at siege battle (especially at wall fall)

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    Hey Nizam, I'm glad R1 works better for you now!

    I am not sure how to help you with Medieval2:TW though.
    Because I have never encountered any problems with it whatsoever, I never bothered trying to fix it.
    You could always disable the "event camera" if that seems to be the issue.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Could you try to fix it. Just check it at least for us PLLLSSSS :d

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    Well first of all I would recommend you check out any solutions posted here (or start a new thread):
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...on-amp-Support

    There's a big playerbase of M2TW and I think someone over there can really help you out!
    I'm just not familiar with M2TW that much, because it never failed me (yet).
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzy View Post
    I remember some other posts about this.. Lemme try to find them for you.

    Here's one:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...dern-computers
    Here's another:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...rated-Graphics

    And I also remember finding another little fix for this, but not sure where.
    If I remember/find it I will let you know!
    Thank you, the DX8-dll did the trick!

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzy View Post
    Hey Nizam, I'm glad R1 works better for you now!

    I am not sure how to help you with Medieval2:TW though.
    Because I have never encountered any problems with it whatsoever, I never bothered trying to fix it.
    You could always disable the "event camera" if that seems to be the issue.
    In case Nizam doesn't know what you meant - it's this entry in the preferences file that needs to be set to FALSE:

    EVENT_CUTSCENES:TRUE










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    Yeah that's true for RTW, not so sure about M2TW, because I don't have a preferences file in my preferences folder of M2TW..
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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    Thanks for making such a comprehensive guide, unfortunately, I just bought Rome Total War yesterday (on Steam) and tried following all the steps in your guide, but it still won't start. When I click play from Steam, it asks me to confirm as administrator, then it says "Running" in Steam and pops up in my process manager for a few seconds, then just disappears and stops running without ever starting.

    One of my friends has Windows 10 as well, but for some reason it is running fine for him without needing to make any changes.

    Also, my "preferences" folder didn't have any files in it when I first opened it, so I copied the files from my friends copy and then edited the values for my screen resolution.

    I have no clue what to do.

    Other specs:
    Windows 10 Version 1511 OS Build 10586.962
    Intel i7 Core
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 960m

    Please help!

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    Default Re: [Updated] Making RTW or RTW:Gold work on windows10 - FIX

    On the first page of this guide, I posted some preferences.txt files (in the spoiler tags).
    Try those, because there's nothing wrong with your build/specs.
    Check out this guide for making stuff work on Win10: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-windows10-FIX

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