The secret way of making any faction playable.

**EmperorJulian** · June 23, 2016, 05:39 AM

I followed your instructions exactly - copying and pasting the files as described. BoB failed to cooperate and Attila simply froze for 10 minutes+. I believe this was because I had attempted to make changes to the startpos character table and for some reason that causes the whole works to cash and burn. I've uninstalled/reinstalled the assembly kit and I'm going to start over, this time following your suggestions from the beginning. I know from experience this can be made to work, but it looks like I have to be very careful about what I change along the way.

* As expected, a full clean reinstall with modifications made to files (other than those involving characters) worked perfectly. I was able to load as Provence, and to promptly crash when I moused over the family name thing. I will see if modding the startpos directly works now that I've followed your instructions. Sadly no change. Same crash as before; I might need to give up on this particular ambition since it seems to be quite an exercise in futility. Very sad too since it seemed like a fun project in theory.

**Miguel_80** · June 23, 2016, 07:03 AM

Not works? I suppose that you've copied it in the folder "...\Total War Attila\assembly_kit\raw_data\EmpireDesignData\campaigns\cha_attila"

In any case, I will check. Maybe it is also necessary modify the "political_parties_power_effect_bundles" table.

EDIT: With "political_parties" and "faction_political_parties_junctions" table files is sufficient. It works for me correctly.

**EmperorJulian** · June 23, 2016, 03:39 PM

Thanks again for all your help. The problem is now resolved - I did it by moving the files I collected from the main_attila to the cha_attila directory in the raw_data folder. Now that this is resolved, I need to find away around the problem of editing the startpos characters file. I'm planning to do a lot of work on that front and if the assembly kit just wont work, I'll need to be able to make use of alternative methods going forward. At least now I can move on to that challenge!

**Miguel_80** · June 23, 2016, 04:05 PM

You're welcome. I'm glad it works for you. Respect to the rest of the changes, using the "starting_positions" form not usually cause problems. Anyway, it is advisable to make backups.

**Scipion1177** · November 04, 2016, 03:58 PM

Hello Rikashey,

I have followed your instruction and was able (or I thought) to make playable the Carloman faction in AOC.

I created a mod.pack but ATTILA laucher says it's obsolete.
when I choose it and lauch nothing happens there are the same faction as in vanilla.
Do I need to make "unplayable" another to replace it by the one I created ? or else?

Thank you in advance for any help

**ElijahR** · December 30, 2016, 08:36 PM

I am new to BOB and don't even know where the startpos.factions is. Anyone care to tell me?

**goblinking** · January 05, 2017, 12:44 PM

Hi there iam geting a strange bug the faction screen loads but then it ends turn and this gets stuck on a loop is there a fix for this iam not sure whats causing this bug or mabye i havent done something correctly?

**HuskyTW** · April 09, 2017, 08:42 PM

Does it work with Fall of the Samurai?

**mhawari** · July 19, 2017, 09:56 PM

Can somebody help me, the Bob wont allow me to procces startpos. Its say "Timed out. Couldn't locate launcher and game processes" i dont know what happening here.

**Gyan-Avspar** · September 15, 2017, 09:44 PM

Excellent.Thanks

**Jason Wolf** · November 15, 2017, 08:13 PM

Hi. I want unlock factions in this mod and wonder how to go about it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=662116630

**DavidJonson** · December 17, 2017, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by mhawari

Can somebody help me, the Bob wont allow me to procces startpos. Its say "Timed out. Couldn't locate launcher and game processes" i dont know what happening here.

hi mhawari, you can find answers from step 20) to 25) read the Points in DaVincis Guide
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...a-startpos-mod

It also helps to understand what Bob is doing exactly, read carefully Mitchs Guide , which is linked in step 1) you bettter star with reading this.

Modding startpos is not easy until u dont understand in Detail what you are doing.
One week ago i wasnt able to make a startpos, since friday my mods are working!