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    Default The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo (By Stefanos Skarmintzos)

    Hi everybody! I have found this very interesting article about the battle of Megiddo between the pharao Thutmose III and the rebel army of the king of Kadesh and his Mitanni allies, in which the pharao won in part thanks to his mercenary Mycenaean warrios. Besides includes several excelent photograpies of the reenactor group "Koryvantes" specialized in the military history of the Ancient Greece form the Mycaenean times to the Hellenistic era.

    The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo

    Picture of the pharao Thtmose III in his warrior against the crew of a war chariot of Mitanni during the battle (Note I have put only the link to the picture to avoid "feared" copyright problems): http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/or...fc4a0a9901.jpg

    Stefanos Skarmintzos


    Exodus 33:2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite


    The word Armageddon in the Western thinking refers to a series of cataclysmic events culminating in a titanic struggle in the place of Megiddo that will bring the end of the World, as we know it. The basis of this, are the historical events that took place in the Bronze Age in the Middle East and led to the battle of Megiddo. This battle was fought in the 15th century BC) between Egyptian forces commanded by the pharaoh Thutmose III and a large Canaanite league headed by the King of Kadesh. Scholars consider it as the first battle of the Ancient World whose details have been recorded in a somewhat in a reliable manner. If we accept Middle Egyptian Chronology the battler took place on May 9th , 1457 BC. It was an Egyptian victory that resulted to the total rout of the Canaanite forces, which fled to safety in the city of Megiddo. This resulted in the lengthy siege of Megiddo, which ended with the city’s capitulation. Our main sources are the writings of the military scribe Tjaneni from the Egyptian temples of what is now Luxor.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Canaanite sickle sword


    The Syrian rulers who thought that the Egyptian queen Hatshepsut was too weak to stop them, allied with the Kingdom of Mitanni in order to gain independence from Egypt. Thutmose III who succeeded the queen had to deal immediately with the revolt. The Syro-Canaanite army decides to concentrate at Megiddo, a city located just behind the Mount Carmel ridge. Standing on a hill fortress, Megiddo dominated the southwest edge of Jezreel Valley and controlled the trade routes between Egypt and Mesopotamia.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Egyptians fight Canaanites Source: civilization.ca


    Thutmose III gathered an army of 10,000 men, composed from chariots and infantry. The army assembled at the Syro-Egyptian border and after by a show of force that cowed the southern Syrians, reached Yehem in 11 days. Thinking that the Syrians would have blocked the passable approaches the Pharaoh led his army thought the Mount Carmel perilous passes and outmaneuvered the Syrians. The Syro-Canaanite and their Mittani allies through forced marches managed to block the Egyptians way to the city in the nick of time. Still they held the higher ground and the Mittani were considered the best chariot troops of their time.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Middle Estern armor and war axe reconsructed by HellenicArmors.gr for living history Association “Koryvantes


    The Pharaoh undaunted set up camp and, arrayed his forces close to the enemy. The next morning the rebels who held the high ground adjacent to the fortress attacked Pharaoh’s army. The Egyptian line was formed in a concave array that threatened both Syro-Canaanite flanks. Yet the rebel force had confidence in the elite Mittani charioteers (marianu) who were considered better than their Egyptian counterparts the naarin. The Pharaoh led the attack from the center fighting among his charioteers. The enemy chariots who thought they would terrorize and run down the Egyptian infantry. Bronze Age footmen used to panic from the terrible sight of the massed chariot charge and stared fleeing only to be butchered by the chariot crews. But thiw day the chariot crews were in for a big surprise, for among the Egyptian ranks sprang the Mycanean promachoi. For at that time the sources point out that Egyptian rules had either allies or hired mercenaries among the kingdoms of the Aegean.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Reconstructed Bronze Age Armor by the Living History Association “Koryvantes“.


    The strange men with even stranger armor composed from bronze plates rather than scales and with exotic weapons that could punch through the marianu armor were truly terrible. Their horned helmets made them look like demons from the netherworld-demons who did not flinch to stand on foot against chariotry and kill men and horses! Parallel to the vigorous Egyptian attacks it must have been equally terrible that the “demonic” infantrymen of the Pharaoh slew the “unbeatable” chariot crews. The ruler of Egypt seemd to have been favored by the Lord of Hosts. The combination of all these was too much for the Syro-Canaanites, who lost their will to fight and their ranks collapsed. Those near the city fled into it, closing the gates behind them. The Egyptian soldiers started looting the enemy’s camp. This gave their beaten enemies their chance to flee and lock themselves in the city of Megiddo. The city’s inhabitants lowered ropes to fugitives and pulled them up over the walls, but the opportunity of a quick capture of the city following the battle was lost for the Pharaoh. The Egyptians put the city under siege and send forces throughout the rebel lands; these all readily submitted to the Pharaoh. The city and citizens of Megiddo were spared when the city finally surrendered.


    Roughly 12 and a half centuries later another Pharaoh would lead an army to the same place mad history of Greek troops fighting in Megiddo would repeat itsself in a strange way. Necho II of Egypt answered the call of his allies the Assyrians and lead his army though Palestine against the Babylonians at Carchemish in northern Syria. The Egyptians had to pass through territory controlled by the Kingdom of Judah whose king, Josiah, refused to grand passage to the Egyptians. The solid phalanx of Necho’s Greek mercenary hoplites crushed the Jewish militia and King Josiah was taken, badly wounded out of the battle by his bodyguards, only to die later.


    Sources

    E. Cline TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SAILOR: MINOANS AND MYCENAEANS ABROAD

    E. Cline “Rethinking Mycenaean International Trade” 2007


    Richard A. Gabriel “The Military History of Ancient Israel” ISBN 0-275-97798-6


    Aaron A. Burke “Canaan under Siege The History and Archaeology of Egypt’s War in Canaan during the Early Eighteenth Dynasty” Ergasteria: Works Presented to John Ellis Jones on his 80th Birthday ed. Nicholas Sekunda Gdansk University 2010


    Sofia Voutsaki “MORTUARY DISPLAY, PRESTIGE AND IDENTITY IN THE SHAFT GRAVE ERA” ELITEN IN DER BRONZEZEIT ERGEBNISSE ZWEIER KOLLOQUIEN IN MAINZ UND ATHEN, MONOGRAPHIEN DES ROMISCH-GERMANISCHEN ZENTRALMUSEUMS 43 MAINZ 1999


    Fabrice De Backer Strasbourg / Louvain-La-Neuve “Evolution of War Chariot Tacticsin the Ancient Near East” http://www.fhw.gr/chronos/02/mainland/en/mg/economy/trade/index.html


    Cline, Eric H. (2000), The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age, University of Michigan Press, ISBN 0-472-09739-3


    Histories of Herodotus, 2:159;


    The old Testament 2 Kings 23:29-30, II Chronicles 35:20-35, II Kings 22:15-20

    Koryvantes (Official Page): http://www.koryvantes.org/en/

    Source:https://medievalswordmanship.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/the-demons-of-armageddon-the-mycenaean-warriors-at-the-battle-of-megiddo/





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    Default Re: The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo (By Stefanos Skarmintzos)

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    Hi everybody! I have found this very interesting article about the battle of Megiddo between the pharao Thutmose III and the rebel army of the king of Kadesh and his Mitanni allies, in which the pharao won in part thanks to his mercenary Mycenaean warrios. Besides includes several excelent photograpies of the reenactor group "Koryvantes" specialized in the military history of the Ancient Greece form the Mycaenean times to the Hellenistic era.

    The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo

    Picture of the pharao Thtmose III in his warrior against the crew of a war chariot of Mitanni during the battle (Note I have put only the link to the picture to avoid "feared" copyright problems): http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/or...fc4a0a9901.jpg

    Stefanos Skarmintzos


    Exodus 33:2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite


    The word Armageddon in the Western thinking refers to a series of cataclysmic events culminating in a titanic struggle in the place of Megiddo that will bring the end of the World, as we know it. The basis of this, are the historical events that took place in the Bronze Age in the Middle East and led to the battle of Megiddo. This battle was fought in the 15th century BC) between Egyptian forces commanded by the pharaoh Thutmose III and a large Canaanite league headed by the King of Kadesh. Scholars consider it as the first battle of the Ancient World whose details have been recorded in a somewhat in a reliable manner. If we accept Middle Egyptian Chronology the battler took place on May 9th , 1457 BC. It was an Egyptian victory that resulted to the total rout of the Canaanite forces, which fled to safety in the city of Megiddo. This resulted in the lengthy siege of Megiddo, which ended with the city’s capitulation. Our main sources are the writings of the military scribe Tjaneni from the Egyptian temples of what is now Luxor.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Canaanite sickle sword


    The Syrian rulers who thought that the Egyptian queen Hatshepsut was too weak to stop them, allied with the Kingdom of Mitanni in order to gain independence from Egypt. Thutmose III who succeeded the queen had to deal immediately with the revolt. The Syro-Canaanite army decides to concentrate at Megiddo, a city located just behind the Mount Carmel ridge. Standing on a hill fortress, Megiddo dominated the southwest edge of Jezreel Valley and controlled the trade routes between Egypt and Mesopotamia.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Egyptians fight Canaanites Source: civilization.ca


    Thutmose III gathered an army of 10,000 men, composed from chariots and infantry. The army assembled at the Syro-Egyptian border and after by a show of force that cowed the southern Syrians, reached Yehem in 11 days. Thinking that the Syrians would have blocked the passable approaches the Pharaoh led his army thought the Mount Carmel perilous passes and outmaneuvered the Syrians. The Syro-Canaanite and their Mittani allies through forced marches managed to block the Egyptians way to the city in the nick of time. Still they held the higher ground and the Mittani were considered the best chariot troops of their time.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Middle Estern armor and war axe reconsructed by HellenicArmors.gr for living history Association “Koryvantes


    The Pharaoh undaunted set up camp and, arrayed his forces close to the enemy. The next morning the rebels who held the high ground adjacent to the fortress attacked Pharaoh’s army. The Egyptian line was formed in a concave array that threatened both Syro-Canaanite flanks. Yet the rebel force had confidence in the elite Mittani charioteers (marianu) who were considered better than their Egyptian counterparts the naarin. The Pharaoh led the attack from the center fighting among his charioteers. The enemy chariots who thought they would terrorize and run down the Egyptian infantry. Bronze Age footmen used to panic from the terrible sight of the massed chariot charge and stared fleeing only to be butchered by the chariot crews. But thiw day the chariot crews were in for a big surprise, for among the Egyptian ranks sprang the Mycanean promachoi. For at that time the sources point out that Egyptian rules had either allies or hired mercenaries among the kingdoms of the Aegean.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Reconstructed Bronze Age Armor by the Living History Association “Koryvantes“.


    The strange men with even stranger armor composed from bronze plates rather than scales and with exotic weapons that could punch through the marianu armor were truly terrible. Their horned helmets made them look like demons from the netherworld-demons who did not flinch to stand on foot against chariotry and kill men and horses! Parallel to the vigorous Egyptian attacks it must have been equally terrible that the “demonic” infantrymen of the Pharaoh slew the “unbeatable” chariot crews. The ruler of Egypt seemd to have been favored by the Lord of Hosts. The combination of all these was too much for the Syro-Canaanites, who lost their will to fight and their ranks collapsed. Those near the city fled into it, closing the gates behind them. The Egyptian soldiers started looting the enemy’s camp. This gave their beaten enemies their chance to flee and lock themselves in the city of Megiddo. The city’s inhabitants lowered ropes to fugitives and pulled them up over the walls, but the opportunity of a quick capture of the city following the battle was lost for the Pharaoh. The Egyptians put the city under siege and send forces throughout the rebel lands; these all readily submitted to the Pharaoh. The city and citizens of Megiddo were spared when the city finally surrendered.


    Roughly 12 and a half centuries later another Pharaoh would lead an army to the same place mad history of Greek troops fighting in Megiddo would repeat itsself in a strange way. Necho II of Egypt answered the call of his allies the Assyrians and lead his army though Palestine against the Babylonians at Carchemish in northern Syria. The Egyptians had to pass through territory controlled by the Kingdom of Judah whose king, Josiah, refused to grand passage to the Egyptians. The solid phalanx of Necho’s Greek mercenary hoplites crushed the Jewish militia and King Josiah was taken, badly wounded out of the battle by his bodyguards, only to die later.


    Sources

    E. Cline TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SAILOR: MINOANS AND MYCENAEANS ABROAD

    E. Cline “Rethinking Mycenaean International Trade” 2007


    Richard A. Gabriel “The Military History of Ancient Israel” ISBN 0-275-97798-6


    Aaron A. Burke “Canaan under Siege The History and Archaeology of Egypt’s War in Canaan during the Early Eighteenth Dynasty” Ergasteria: Works Presented to John Ellis Jones on his 80th Birthday ed. Nicholas Sekunda Gdansk University 2010


    Sofia Voutsaki “MORTUARY DISPLAY, PRESTIGE AND IDENTITY IN THE SHAFT GRAVE ERA” ELITEN IN DER BRONZEZEIT ERGEBNISSE ZWEIER KOLLOQUIEN IN MAINZ UND ATHEN, MONOGRAPHIEN DES ROMISCH-GERMANISCHEN ZENTRALMUSEUMS 43 MAINZ 1999


    Fabrice De Backer Strasbourg / Louvain-La-Neuve “Evolution of War Chariot Tacticsin the Ancient Near East” http://www.fhw.gr/chronos/02/mainland/en/mg/economy/trade/index.html


    Cline, Eric H. (2000), The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age, University of Michigan Press, ISBN 0-472-09739-3


    Histories of Herodotus, 2:159;


    The old Testament 2 Kings 23:29-30, II Chronicles 35:20-35, II Kings 22:15-20

    Koryvantes (Official Page): http://www.koryvantes.org/en/

    Source:https://medievalswordmanship.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/the-demons-of-armageddon-the-mycenaean-warriors-at-the-battle-of-megiddo/





    Very cool, but dafuq is up with that Mycenaean armor? Its pretty divergent from anything else ive seen. Otherwise, great resources! Im gonna really dive into them when I get the chance.

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    Default Re: The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo (By Stefanos Skarmintzos)

    you really want that unit to happen, do you ^^
    alright, i will add heavy mycenaean spearmen as a expensive anti-chariot unit for middle eastern factions. or should they be ehypt exclusive?

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    Default Re: The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo (By Stefanos Skarmintzos)

    Quote Originally Posted by PunitorMaximus View Post
    you really want that unit to happen, do you ^^
    alright, i will add heavy mycenaean spearmen as a expensive anti-chariot unit for middle eastern factions. or should they be ehypt exclusive?
    Wow thanks!

    I think that could be recruited by the egyptians and also by the hitites in the western Anatolia because existed several archeological indications that seems probe it (Source: https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&sourc...Fr9izN4VYvhrCg)

    And another places where they could be recruited could be in Crece and Chipre because both islands were under the mycaenean influence sphere.

    Finally their aspect could be like these pictures:

    https://studiahumanitatispaideia.fil...cipe-acheo.png


    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6dc789c56e.jpg


    And these guys:



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    Default Re: The Demons of Armageddon. The Mycenaean Warriors at the battle of Megiddo (By Stefanos Skarmintzos)

    We have that models, a heavy pikemen mercenary unit would be possible indeed

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