[Ideas] Royal Scythia, Roxolani and Massagetae unit suggestion thread

**Sebidee** · April 19, 2015, 11:07 AM

It looks like the roxolani already have a lot of shock cavalry. I don't think it would feel right to give them Dacian units either since their starting position is all the way up in central Asia.

I just need one more unit for the roxolani to fill out the roster and start making the mod.

**Althon** · April 19, 2015, 12:56 PM

Well my suggestion of Sarmatian catapracts still stands if you haven't already added it to the list.

**Sebidee** · April 19, 2015, 01:10 PM

How would you differentiate them from Sarmation Noble Lancers and Royal Lancers?

**Drakeb22** · April 19, 2015, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sebidee

It looks like the roxolani already have a lot of shock cavalry. I don't think it would feel right to give them Dacian units either since their starting position is all the way up in central Asia.

I just need one more unit for the roxolani to fill out the roster and start making the mod.

Few brainstormed ideas
Steppes Woodsmen - Some kind of two handed axemen
Grand Mounted Warband- Double manpower mounted archer cavalry
Some kind of Caucasian mercenaries/troops possibly borrowed from the last unit pack.
Hybrid Axemen/Archer style infantry unit.

Sorry the steppes aren't really one of my historical strong-points. And alotta history im familiar is simply "They rode in with horses, killed and looted, then left".

**Jay the Byzantine** · April 20, 2015, 11:56 AM

Yes, Dacian mercs may be OP for them with their top tier cavalry and horse archers.
Maybe a semi historical (;D) Dacian inspired ambush cav unit with beautiful dracos on their horses?

**Althon** · April 23, 2015, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sebidee

How would you differentiate them from Sarmation Noble Lancers and Royal Lancers?

Well, it would be similar to how Messagetae have both Saka cataprachts and Noble lancers.
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Sarmatian cataprachts would have higher armor, but maybe lower charge bonus and melee attack. A shock unit that sacrifices some damage for greater survivability.

The reason why I keep bringing these up is because, historically, Sarmatian Cataprachts did exist and took part in Romano-Dacian wars and in Sarmatian raids into the Roman Empire (They're depicted on Trajan's column after all). Yet, for some reason, CA only gave cataprachts to Messaagetae while giving none to the one faction (Sarmatians, which in Rome 2 are basically represented by Roxolanni) that was historically recorded as having them none.

**Sebidee** · April 23, 2015, 10:19 AM

Alright cool, Sarmatian Cataphracts.

**Jay the Byzantine** · April 23, 2015, 10:26 AM

Ok, it just occurred to me. How about a Dacian merc cavalry that is more adept at ambush+forest warfare? Roxolani would have to have units that adapted to the fighting style of the woods if they were to expand west and Dacia was the first non steppe faction in their way. So how about a cav unit that looses lesser charge bonus in forest or has a better missile block chance due to their adeptness at hiding themselves? To their south they have plains; as is to the east and north. So it would add good replay value to allow to styles of warfare to the same faction. Maybe tie the units to the conquest of the Dacian provinces so they can't be pumped out everywhere? Anyhow, good luck with the hard labor!