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    Default Re: Origins and derivatives of Octavien Dalvimart's collection of Turkish costume

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    Many of the Ottomans in the Augsburger Bilder, 1802-1810 are based on the same drawings provided by d'Alvimart for McLean's The Military Costume Of Turkey:
    . Ottoman Turkish Infantry
    . Arab Mamalukes & Asiatic Light Infantry
    . European Turkish Cavalry
    . Asiatic Turkish Cavalry


    Turkish Infantry after Wilhelm von Kobell, Vienna, c.1809-13 includes many figures based on Miller's Costume of Turkey. Some of the vignettes are similar to the Augsburger Bilder including the Artillery in the Augsburger Bilder. Formations of uniform troops based on a single figure from Miller's Costume of Turkey are not evidence of troops wearing a uniform.

    Turkish Cavalry after Wilhelm von Kobell, Vienna, c.1809-13 includes many figures based on McLean's The Military Costume Of Turkey and Miller's Costume of Turkey and one, on the far right, is based on a Spahi after Vanmour from 100 years before.

    There are other books etc. that have images based on these but I'll skip forward to the 20th century -

    Some appear in L'Organisation et les Uniformes de L'Armee Ottomanne by Mahmoud Chevket Pacha, 1907

    This one includes 2 figures in the same pairing as in Illustrations de Histoire des Othomans above. As the colours are not the same as Miller's Costume of Turkey, these may be based on a black and white version of Illustrations de Histoire des Othomans or a derivative. Where these have a more specific caption than in Miller's Costume of Turkey these are educated guesswork.



    Mahmoud Chevket Pacha 1907 is probably the source for Osmanli Ordu Teskilati and is used by Dr Chris Flaherty. By this time they are many steps away from the originals. All these should be considered to be depicting costume of the 1790s or if from an Ottoman album - from the last time the master set was updated before this.

    MIRROR SITES
    Ottomans in the Augsburger Bilder, 1802-1810
    Turkish Infantry after Wilhelm von Kobell, Vienna, c.1809-13

    druzhina345
    18th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers
    Last edited by druzhina345; July 28, 2018 at 12:45 AM.

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