[Request] Anyone tested with the region giving yet?

[internalmemory]

Just wondering if anyone has actually tangled with the region giving in this game yet. I know giving and trading regions aren't in the game but there's a fake version of it for giving regions to horde, and I was hoping someone could look into that mechanic to try and expand it for a less restricted form of giving a region.

[barry12]

Can you expand on this please, I'm really confused. When I first played a few nights ago, I noticed the "gift region" option appeared in diplomacy with certain factions, and I remarked,"Cool! Finally it's come back!" and went about my business doing other stuff.

Came back to play yesterday hoping to gift some regions to an ally and the option had disappeared! Literally couldn't find a single faction where that option would be permitted? Can anyone clarify how gifting regions works??

[Eurolandish]

Can you expand on this please, I'm really confused. When I first played a few nights ago, I noticed the "gift region" option appeared in diplomacy with certain factions, and I remarked,"Cool! Finally it's come back!" and went about my business doing other stuff.

Came back to play yesterday hoping to gift some regions to an ally and the option had disappeared! Literally couldn't find a single faction where that option would be permitted? Can anyone clarify how gifting regions works??

I believe you can only gift regions that have a migrating horde faction present inside it.

[Earende]

Gift region is only available when the horde faction (except Hun) have an army in your lands. Also, you'll only be able to gift the specific land that they're on.

[barry12]

ok thanks for that guys. would definitely be cool if someone modded this to be a permanent option.

[internalmemory]

Can you expand on this please, I'm really confused. When I first played a few nights ago, I noticed the "gift region" option appeared in diplomacy with certain factions, and I remarked,"Cool! Finally it's come back!" and went about my business doing other stuff.

Came back to play yesterday hoping to gift some regions to an ally and the option had disappeared! Literally couldn't find a single faction where that option would be permitted? Can anyone clarify how gifting regions works??

Exactly, it's not a real system... It's more like a cheap fake gimmicky system - but the underlying mechanic is still there somewhere. In Rome 2 the entire mechanic was completely stripped out. This time it's.... "there".... 'kind of'. But you're lucky! Of all of my hours playing I've never found a single settlement with a "Give" anything option. Where do you even find it? Do you have to open up diplomacy with that roaming horde then it shows up?

Now all I need to do is Email the Western Roman Empire and tell them to abandon all their lands and come to horde mode back to Roma and I'll give it to them for free so they can start over fresh with me defending them. Yeah... This sounds so freaking stupid, something needs to be fixed.

[Jin-]

I think its there for hordes because it would be impossible them to get public order maintained if you give them region from other side map, AI is stupid and probably would accept it.
But as for trading regions with regular factions, i don't see why it is not already in game.

[internalmemory]

I think its there for hordes because it would be impossible them to get public order maintained if you give them region from other side map, AI is stupid and probably would accept it.
But as for trading regions with regular factions, i don't see why it is not already in game.

Well there's no actual input that a modder has mentioned this so I guess it's time to move this to the official Total War / CA forums also. I won't stop fighting for this mechanic until something is done about it.

[kamikazee786]

Gift region is only available when the horde faction (except Hun) have an army in your lands. Also, you'll only be able to gift the specific land that they're on.

Not correct, i was able to gift a region in thrace to the huns while i was playing as the sassanids

[stevehoos]

Could this be modded to be a real mechanic instead of this kind of halfway idea.

[internalmemory]

Not correct, i was able to gift a region in thrace to the huns while i was playing as the sassanids

That is because the Huns are a horde faction. CA has made it so you can half-ashed do this mechanic but it's still technically fake and personally a slap to the face. I want unrestricted region giving, and not only to horde and not only to horde that are on the region right next to the city practically molesting it.


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My post to the Total War official forums
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I have came to an impass with Rome 2 and Attila. The games are no longer enjoyable because I have realized and found that no matter what, inevitably the system is broken and diplomacy can never work and allies can never work, and anything that makes this game enjoyable, creative, or strategic Will Never Work. I have recently came to the attention that my goal in my game was to save the Western Roman Empire, but sadly the entire large empire has been destroyed because of other nations and there was not a single thing I could do about it. The Franks took Roma from them, so then I ended up eventually going into war with the Franks as I had to destroy the Alamans because they were splitting my newly found Saxon Empire... I ended up capturing Roma. Yet I cannot give it to the Roman Empire unless I fax them directions to magically go into horde mode, stand right next to my settlement Roma, and then let me gift it to them. This won't ever happen though, and we all know that.

With CA removing the entire mechanic of trading and giving regions has essentially ruined the entire game. Allies don't matter anymore because you can never save them from their destruction, and diplomacy never works because the only way to get a region you need or a region you've been working really hard to get yet your allies yank it from you - the only way to get that region you've fought for so hard is to declare war on your allies and destroy them. Yes, I know the premise of this game is "Total War", but this game has had all diplomacy and every single thing that made it unique and interesting stripped from it when they took this mechanic out. I also know that many stupid people argue that it's good that it was taken out because it's deemed "unrealistic". I'm sorry, but cities have been given to different nations and different cultures throughout history. It is a cold hard fact, and any forumgoer needs to realize that.

The fact of the matter is, YES - Your costumers really do want this feature. So this is my unofficial petition, short of going to a website to make an actual petition - or a kickstart to get a freaking petition paid for. We want you to unlock the ability to mod these diplomacy options, and we want it now. We wanted it three years ago. We need it in the future. Unlock the files that we now know are clearly there because we can already barely half do it with hordes - it's a cheap fake gimmicky way of giving regions but it's still there and the underlying mechanic does actually exist.

Unlock the files to allow this to be modded, or patch it in your game so we can trade regions for gold, peace, or just to gift regions for a large praise from a faction.

You can just take a glance at some of the things people have already posted on your Total War forums, as you can take a look here also:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ion-giving-yet

[SS-Marshall]

Could this be modded to be a real mechanic instead of this kind of halfway idea.

I really hope a modder out there will read this and make this a mod he and or she will be the best im so sick of taking a region to get a enemy out of the way but have to deal with the unhappiness and the rebellion