Unit weapon model glitch.

**Ziame** · February 17, 2015, 12:44 PM

Hi guys,

Firstly, I promise this is the last thing I post that brings nothing to the table!

I have almost finished mymod^TM and have a problem with this last model. Problem is linked to the weapon -- crossbow. It is most probably linked to a lack of certain animation, but I have failed in bringing it to work with my mod (crashes all around + I managed to kill another mod <3 )

The problem is that the crossbow is stretched across hole battlefield or up in the sky, known effect akin to this (http://www.123dapp.com/sculpt/the-glitch-/2516575) <- that or the crossbow's "arms" don't show at all O_o
(steam failed to bring me screenshots, I will add them as soon as possible)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/lc.../besiegers.rar
This is the model with textures (without attachmentsets). It is, again, from Call of Warhammer. Porting units from Stainless Steel is much more satisfying!

I would gladly rectify this problem myself, but modelling, texturing and art in general goes far over my head. If anyone could offer some advice I would be grateful. I wondered if it is possible to simply swap the crossbow for another one, but 3D modelling gives me a headache.

(if you're curious as to what that "mymod" is, it's a piece of junk, riddled with workaround and bad code, that will probably produce an AAR, lel)

Code:

9 besiegers 1 3 
70 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/besiegers_lod0.mesh 121 
70 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/besiegers_lod0.mesh 1225 
70 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/besiegers_lod0.mesh 6400 
2 
5 slave 
89 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/textures/Heavy_Tilian_infantry.texture 
96 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/textures/Heavy_Tilian_infantry_normal.texture 
39 unit_sprites/slave_besiegers_sprite.spr 
4 merc 
89 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/textures/Heavy_Tilian_infantry.texture 
96 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/besiegers/textures/Heavy_Tilian_infantry_normal.texture 
38 unit_sprites/merc_besiegers_sprite.spr 
2 
5 slave 
94 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/attachmentsets/Att_Heavy_Tilian_infantry_diff.texture 
94 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/attachmentsets/Att_Heavy_Tilian_infantry_norm.texture 0 
4 merc 
94 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/attachmentsets/Att_Heavy_Tilian_infantry_diff.texture 
94 unit_models/_Units/warhammer/Tilea/model/attachmentsets/Att_Heavy_Tilian_infantry_norm.texture 0 
1 
4 None 
20 MTW2_Pavise_Crossbow 14 MTW2_Swordsman 
2 
21 MTW2_Crossbow_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

MTW2_Pavise_Crossbow was MTW2_Pavise_Crossbow_String in original

Again, promise not to post more questions ever again! (:

**paleologos** · February 17, 2015, 02:58 PM

I thought you might have made a "model problem" post!
I have downloaded the files and will give them a thorough look very soon.

**Ziame** · February 17, 2015, 03:12 PM

I love you! I won't lie that I hadn't hoped for you to show up (:

I am too predictable now, need to think of original problems!

**Ziame** · February 18, 2015, 11:20 AM

Promised screenshots:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**k/t** · February 18, 2015, 05:51 PM

Change the entries to look like this:

Code:

1 
4 None 
20 MTW2_Pavise_Crossbow 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 
2 
21 MTW2_Crossbow_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield

This might not be the fix, but BMDB is very sensitive, so I'd make the change just in case.

**Ziame** · February 19, 2015, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by k/t

Change the entries to look like this:

Code:

1 
4 None 
20 MTW2_Pavise_Crossbow 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 
2 
21 MTW2_Crossbow_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield

This might not be the fix, but BMDB is very sensitive, so I'd make the change just in case.

Yeah, that does not help. BMDB code was generated by UnitEditor (: Thanks for advice, though

**Gigantus** · February 19, 2015, 05:44 AM

You mention a previous 'string' animation - is it possible that the model was slightly adjusted for that animation?

In EBII we had some weird stuff connected to very long paths for attachments. You are already at 96 without the path to the mod's data folder, maybe shorten that?

**Ziame** · February 19, 2015, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

You mention a previous 'string' animation - is it possible that the model was slightly adjusted for that animation?

I am pretty sure that's what happened. The string is probably included with the crossbow, so with normal animation it gets wonky. I have failed to add the animation in, though (crashes for whole family)

Originally Posted by Gigantus

In EBII we had some weird stuff connected to very long paths for attachments. You are already at 96 without the path to the mod's data folder, maybe shorten that?

I might try that, but it hasn't an effect on any other model, nor is the model problematic in original mod (call of warhammer) with the same path. I will keep the paths in mind though.

**k/t** · February 19, 2015, 07:04 AM

Gigantus, you worked on EB2 too???

**Gigantus** · February 19, 2015, 07:21 AM

At the later stage advising with the script and other bug hunting.

**Ziame** · March 12, 2015, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by paleologos

I thought you might have made a "model problem" post!
I have downloaded the files and will give them a thorough look very soon.

Hopeful bumppity bump (:

**AnthoniusII** · March 12, 2015, 09:50 AM

If you use Banzai's animation pack -or if the mod's pack includes those animations-then the problem is in the weapon's vertices bone assignment.
Wrong bone assignment ussualy causes that issue.
Open Banzai's animation pack examples to see what bone assignment each vertex of the crossbow and the bolt has.
Apply the same..To do so you need to add Banzai's skeleton with GOAT 1.1 as well before do that.
Here is a small tutorial about how to safely make bow string animation use models. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...model-creation

**Ziame** · March 12, 2015, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by AnthoniusII

If you use Banzai's animation pack -or if the mod's pack includes those animations-then the problem is in the weapon's vertices bone assignment.
Wrong bone assignment ussualy causes that issue.
Open Banzai's animation pack examples to see what bone assignment each vertex of the crossbow and the bolt has.
Apply the same..To do so you need to add Banzai's skeleton with GOAT 1.1 as well before do that.
Here is a small tutorial about how to safely make bow string animation use models. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...model-creation

I am actually not using that animation. I tried adding relevant animation from the mod I took the unit from, but repacked skeletons produced a crash everytime. I spent two days fighting various crashes, and only then have I come for help (: (cus Paleologos is such a nice fellow).

I removed the xbow-string in milkshake and it removed most problems (the bugged stretching only shows up sometimes now), but after I opened milkshake again, I couldn't save any changes, sadly. (BUY BUY BUY, it says)