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Thread: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update: 26. December 2016

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    thanks booker, I hope that the patch won't change too much, as I wasn't able to setup the OC scalability yet. I hope I can find time tomorrow.

    edit: To ensure the new OC results (1024x768 resolution) are comparative with the ones I ran at 1080p previously, I decided to do them this night, because of the arriving patch 1.
    The benchmark session is finished for that so far and I hope I will be able to get them in shape and uploaded tomorrow evening.

    I haven't taken a glimpse at them yet, so I cannot tell whether the GPU limitation was the reason for the different results that "A Barbarian" pointed out. Cya tomorrow.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    Here are my results when I removed my OC. Cliff notes: I got a huge performance hit.

    Intel i5 3570K, @3.8 GHz, 16 GB RAM 1600 MHz CL 11-11-11-30, SLI 2x GTX 770 2GB, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Resolution 1920x1080

    maximum quality:
    min FPS: 6
    avg FPS: 35.7
    max FPS: 45

    quality:
    min FPS: 7
    avg FPS: 42.6
    max FPS: 59

    performance:
    min FPS: 47
    avg FPS: 58.1
    max FPS: 71


    JON-PCnoOC.txt

    All in all, I reduced my turbo speeds from 4.4GHz to 3.8GHz, which is about 13% less. My average framerate suffered by 13-16%, which is pretty consistent for performance scaling.


    maximum quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 35.7
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 40.6 = 14% higher

    quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 42.6
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 49.4 = 16% higher

    performance:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 58.1
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 66.0 = 13% higher
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    Resolution 1920 x 1080p
    patch 0, 25/02/2015

    Extreme
    AVG 8.9

    Maximum
    AVG 14.0

    Quality
    MAX 28 +
    AVG 22.1
    MIN 14-

    Performance
    MAX 34+
    AVG 29.4
    MIN 19-

    Maximum Performance
    Max 58+
    AVG 47.5
    MIN 31-

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    thanks for your new results Spartan and Revan.be, I will include them in the original post asap.

    I've managed to put my results in excel meanwhile. But I still don't see a clear relation between Overclocking my CPU and better performance. Or better said: The results are completely various, so there is no indication that overclocking does help to get better performance in general nor the game does scale well with more power as it should sometimes and in other situation it performs even better than it should.

    I have really no idea and don't understand this perhaps anyone can enlight me here? What makes me still stunned are 2 factors: on maximum quality it still seems I encounter a GPU bottleneck despite I am running the game at 1024x768. This is really amazing. I am out of words literally. What makes this game so demanding in the first place when Rome 2 was not?






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    Prepare to be amazed at the power of AMD. My specs:
    Win 7 64 Ultimate
    FX8350@4.5
    8GB DDR3 2133MHz RAM
    R9 260x 3GB
    650WATT Superflower Fully Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU (roughly translated, it's super high end so it not the juice letting me down). Be well aware my PC is virus and malware scanned weekly, I update everything even my motherboard bios for the hell of it. And prepare to lol at my results:

    Res is 1080p. Performs just as crap lower, but has to be 1080p due to my S-PVA panel looks awful non native:

    Max Performance:
    Min 49
    Max 99
    Avg 75

    Performance:
    Min 28
    Max 59
    Avg 46

    Quality:
    Min 24
    Max 48
    Avg 34

    Max Quality:
    Min 16
    Max 38
    Ave 29

    Extreme:

    Min 13
    Max 19
    Ave 16
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    My System: Cpu i5-2500K 3,3Ghz(OC to 4,3Ghz),RAM 8GB 1333Mhz,Video card Zotac GTX 760 AMP Edition!(2 GB)
    Resolution:1920x1080


    Results(min/max)avg:


    Extreme(11/19) 16,6

    Quality Max(18/31) 23,4

    Quality Base(31/54) 40,3

    Performance media(48/68) 57,2

    Performance Max(56/107) 89,7
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    Intel Core i 5 4690K, 4.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM, R9 290x, Windows 7 64bit, Resolution 1920x1080p, no SLI

    extreme quality (needs 3-4 GB VRAM):
    max FPS: 23
    min FPS: 13
    avg FPS: 18.5


    maximum quality:
    max FPS: 37
    min FPS: 24
    avg FPS: 30.9

    quality:
    max FPS: 51
    min FPS: 31
    avg FPS: 40.3

    performance:
    max FPS: 71
    min FPS: 42
    avg FPS: 53.8

    maximum performance:
    max FPS: 109
    min FPS: 48
    avg FPS: 69.4

    Hope this helps the thread! I'm kind of sad that the only way to get over 60 fps average is to put it on the lowest settings. -_- Hopefully that upcoming patch will help things for us AMD GPU owners. I can post results again after I try a small overclock on the GPU, let me know if you want that too.

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    Here I am, Proudly presenting the first NOTEBOOK benchmark on TWC !!!


    You made me use the cpuz installer. I'm allergic to installers!
    btw, CPUz log doesn't seem to get the proper GT650m values, it displays performance level "unknown" with the boost values, but that's not what I'm making it run at, nor the 405 default idle clocks

    Extreme Quality
    max 8 / min 4 / avg 5.3 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // GT650m** (347.52), 810 MHz (core), 900 MHz (VRAM), 2 GB VRAM DDR3, ~0.887 V // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1
    DOWNGRADED - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // HD4000 (10.18.10.4061) // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1

    Maximum Quality

    max 9 / min 6 / avg 7.3 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // GT650m** (347.52), 810 MHz (core), 900 MHz (VRAM), 2 GB VRAM DDR3, ~0.887 V // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1
    max 3 / min 2 / avg 2.6 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // HD4000 (10.18.10.4061) // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1

    Quality

    max 16 / min 9 / avg 12.3 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // GT650m** (347.52), 810 MHz (core), 900 MHz (VRAM), 2 GB VRAM DDR3, ~0.887 V // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1
    max 6 / min 3 / avg 4.2 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // HD4000 (10.18.10.4061) // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz.ATW v1

    Performance

    max 21 / min 13 / avg 16.7 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // GT650m** (347.52), 810 MHz (core), 900 MHz (VRAM), 2 GB VRAM DDR3, ~0.887 V // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1
    max 6 / min 4 / avg 6.0 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // HD4000 (10.18.10.4061) // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1

    Maximum Performance

    max 31 / min 19 / avg 26.1- i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // GT650m** (347.52), 810 MHz (core), 900 MHz (VRAM), 2 GB VRAM DDR3, ~0.887 V // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1
    max 14 / min 8 / avg 10.7 - i7 3632qm ~2.9* GHz // 16 GB 1600 MHz // HD4000 (10.18.10.4061) // win 8.1 64b update 3 // 1366x768 60Hz. ATW v1

    *2.2-3.2 GHz, BUS speed ~99.77 MHz, forced to run at ~2.9 GHz which is max turbo on all cores simultaneously (from my experience).
    **Forced to run on "Idle" performance, thus disabling boost but staying at a low V. Default shuts down at ~80C, "Idle" doesn't reach 70C.
    SP: Hardware runs exactly as specified above, no throttling, no boosts.

    Well, HD4000 can't run extreme settings, so I do see the point about it being for future gpus *no sarcasm* *no, none at all*
    Still better than a console *grabs popcorn* and a mac together *grabs chips*.
    BTW, if you're gonna play at less than 10fps, then max 1 fps is the best. Looking at a slideshow is ok, 4-8 fps drives a person insane.

    ah, right, the cpuz http://pastebin.com/YJm6sUZn
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    great stuff, can you please post the CPU-z log in addition (edit the post above). I will check the new submissions and include them in the original post in the very next days! Thank you for your efforts.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by SPARTAN VI View Post
    Here are my results when I removed my OC. Cliff notes: I got a huge performance hit.

    Intel i5 3570K, @3.8 GHz, 16 GB RAM 1600 MHz CL 11-11-11-30, SLI 2x GTX 770 2GB, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Resolution 1920x1080

    maximum quality:
    min FPS: 6
    avg FPS: 35.7
    max FPS: 45

    quality:
    min FPS: 7
    avg FPS: 42.6
    max FPS: 59

    performance:
    min FPS: 47
    avg FPS: 58.1
    max FPS: 71


    JON-PCnoOC.txt

    All in all, I reduced my turbo speeds from 4.4GHz to 3.8GHz, which is about 13% less. My average framerate suffered by 13-16%, which is pretty consistent for performance scaling.


    maximum quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 35.7
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 40.6 = 14% higher

    quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 42.6
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 49.4 = 16% higher

    performance:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 58.1
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 66.0 = 13% higher
    Hi Spartan,

    this is really amazing that your performance does scale nearly 1:1. How can this be explained, that my results do differ that much?!


    Edit: Meanwhile I browsed through all the new submission but found configuration issues or needed changes, in nearly all of them.
    I contacted the individual users via PM and hope for a reply, which may even make a re-benchmarking neccessary, so I won't include the so far valid submissions for now.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Hi Spartan,

    this is really amazing that your performance does scale nearly 1:1. How can this be explained, that my results do differ that much?!


    Edit: Meanwhile I browsed through all the new submission but found configuration issues or needed changes, in nearly all of them.
    I contacted the individual users via PM and hope for a reply, which may even make a re-benchmarking neccessary, so I won't include the so far valid submissions for now.
    The biggest difference between our results lie in GPU processing power. The SLI 770s possibly exposed the CPU bottleneck more than the single GTX 670?

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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    would you mind to repeat that test partially with only one card? I cannot understand why there is a GPU bottleneck at ridicilous low 1024 res anyway, even then I haven't used extreme quality... this game is really annyoing in terms of the technical view.
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    Default Re: TWC Total War Attila benchmark thread - last update 22. February 2014

    Ok, I ran it again at 3.8GHz and SLI disabled.

    Intel i5 3570K, @3.8 GHz, 16 GB RAM 1600 MHz CL 11-11-11-30, GTX 770 2GB, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Resolution 1920x1080

    maximum quality:
    min FPS: 18
    avg FPS: 28.3
    max FPS: 34

    quality:
    min FPS: 33
    avg FPS: 44.3
    max FPS: 61

    performance:
    min FPS: 44
    avg FPS: 61.7
    max FPS: 76


    I reduced my turbo speeds from 4.4GHz to 3.8GHz, which is about 13% less. My average framerate suffered by 1-10%.


    maximum quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 28.3
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 28.8 = 1.7% higher

    quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 44.3
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 47.6 = 7.4% higher

    performance:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 61.7
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 67.6 = 9.5% higher

    With only one GTX 770 running, it appears I'm mostly/partially GPU-bound. This supports my hypothesis that SLI exposed the CPU bottleneck.
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    Ok, I ran it again at 3.8GHz and 4.4GHz, SLI disabled, at 1024x768.

    Intel i5 3570K, @3.8 GHz, 16 GB RAM 1600 MHz CL 11-11-11-30, GTX 770 2GB, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Resolution 1024x768

    maximum quality:
    min FPS: 33
    avg FPS: 43.0
    max FPS: 58

    quality:
    min FPS: 36
    avg FPS: 50.7
    max FPS: 68

    performance:
    min FPS: 48
    avg FPS: 71.1
    max FPS: 86

    Intel i5 3570K, @4.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM 1600 MHz CL 11-11-11-30, GTX 770 2GB, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Resolution 1024x768

    maximum quality:
    min FPS: 33
    avg FPS: 45.6
    max FPS: 58

    quality:
    min FPS: 41
    avg FPS: 57.8
    max FPS: 83

    performance:
    min FPS: 49
    avg FPS: 80.3
    max FPS: 98

    Comparisons

    maximum quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 43.0
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 45.6 = 6% higher

    quality:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 50.7
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 57.8 = 14% higher

    performance:
    3570K @ 3.8GHz avg 71.1
    3570K @ 4.4GHz avg 80.3 = 13% higher

    We can clearly see the CPU bottleneck at lower settings and at 1:1 scaling again.
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    Just ran a few of the preset benchmarks after patch and compared with notes from pre-patch. I cant say that I am shocked but there is no noticeable difference.

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    CPU:Intel i7 3770 @3,40 GHz 3,90 Ghz(turbo enabled) GPU: GTX 970 OC 4GB DDR5 MSI
    RAM:8 GB RAM 1600 Mhz CL9 OS: Windows 8.1 pro 64bit,Resolution: 1920x1080p
    Driver: 347.52 Game version 1.01 I have restored default Nvidia Settings.

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    extreme quality (needs 3-4 GB VRAM)
    min FPS: 18
    avg FPS: 30,3
    max FPS: 43

    maximum quality: (the recommended by the game is this one):
    min FPS: 29
    avg FPS: 39,6
    max FPS: 54

    quality:
    min FPS: 34
    avg FPS: 47,8
    max FPS: 64

    performance:
    min FPS: 54
    avg FPS: 66.7
    max FPS: 79

    maximum performance:
    min FPS: 89
    avg FPS: 118,1
    max FPS: 169

    CPU-Z logfile:https://mega.co.nz/#!HJVFTahQ!CPR5Cv...KdgzpKqkhNSWQA

    except on maximum performance (I play with maximum quality) I have lost like 2 fps on average for all presets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    Just ran a few of the preset benchmarks after patch and compared with notes from pre-patch. I cant say that I am shocked but there is no noticeable difference.
    Would you mind posting your before and after?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    I cant say that I am shocked but there is no noticeable difference.
    To be fair, they didn't mentioned any general performance improvements for battles.
    http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Update

    They mentioned:

    • Improved performance with AMD graphics cards.
    • AMD MSAA optimisation.
    • Optimisation to reduce the VRAM usage in battles.

    And

    • Improved video playback.
    • End Turn times optimised.



    Do u have an AMD card ?

    The one general improvement would be the VRAM usage in battles. But for that we would need a comparison value from before the patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Barbarian View Post
    To be fair, they didn't mentioned any general performance improvements for battles.
    http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Update

    They mentioned:

    • Improved performance with AMD graphics cards.
    • AMD MSAA optimisation.
    • Optimisation to reduce the VRAM usage in battles.

    And

    • Improved video playback.
    • End Turn times optimised.



    Do u have an AMD card ?

    The one general improvement would be the VRAM usage in battles. But for that we would need a comparison value from before the patch.
    To be fair they did mentioned performance improvement on battles IF you have a AMD card which i do.

    I will run the benchmark when i get home and i will post my findings, but from what i read, it won´t be any drastic difference.

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    Intel Core i 5 4690K, 4.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM, R9 290x, Windows 7 64bit, Resolution 1920x1080p, no SLI

    extreme quality (needs 3-4 GB VRAM):
    max FPS: 23 (27)
    min FPS: 13 (16)
    avg FPS: 18.5 (20.9)


    maximum quality:
    max FPS: 37 (38)
    min FPS: 24 (23)
    avg FPS: 30.9 (29.3)

    quality:
    max FPS: 51 (49)
    min FPS: 31 26)
    avg FPS: 40.3 (38.2)

    performance:
    max FPS: 71 (63)
    min FPS: 42 (39)
    avg FPS: 53.8 (51.9)

    maximum performance:
    max FPS: 109 (99)
    min FPS: 48 (56)
    avg FPS: 69.4 (70.4)

    The numbers without brackets are before the patch, numbers in brackets are after. My CPUZ file is in my last post.

    Hmmmmmmm, for a patch that was supposed to increase performance, I'm pretty dissapointed. The only quality that I saw any improvement with was on the absolute highest settings. Since I wasn't trying to run it at those settings anyway I now have to accept lower fps than before.... Hopefully the next patches will reverse this. All other factors remained the same as my last testing... maybe I'm the only one that will experience this decrease (nvm just read the last few posts.....), but if not i feel bad for the people running AMD cards on lower settings. Classic CA, classic, I hate to say it but I'm losing faith. What do you guys think??

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