An Official note on ATTILA & Performance

[Nico CA]

Hi guys!

There’s a few threads popping up with people worried about their kit running the game, we just wanted to clear up a couple of misconceptions that might help you out.

1) The “Recommended Spec” is not the spec that is required to run the game on full max quality settings at 1440p. It is a spec which we believe gives you a good experience of the game as we’d recommend it is played. If you have better hardware you will get better results.

There are 5 quality presents you can select in Total War: ATTILA (you can always go into ‘Advanced’ and tweak yourself of course).

• ‘Max Performance’ – integrated chipsets and older cards
• ‘Performance’ – low end cards
• ‘Quality’– mid range cards
• ‘Max Quality’ – high end cards
• ‘Extreme Quality’ – future cards – no card is set to this out of the box

The official “Recommended Spec” is pegged to the ‘Quality’ setting at 1080p ‘out of the box’.

‘Extreme Quality’ also activates 4XMSAA, which will have a particularly big performance impact. Please note, that the ‘Extreme Quality’ setting is meant for future graphics cards, not for current gen. This is why it's above Maximum Quality.

2) The Min and Rec specs are higher than ROME II, it is a new game that is going on two years more recent and is based on a newer iteration of our TW Engine. As a result it is more demanding, if you ran ROME II at a certain combination of settings, ATTILA will be different. If you have high end kit though, ATTILA will certainly look more impressive.

Note also that the ‘Extreme’ setting is not the same in each title.

3) There has been work done on performance and optimisation since the review build. How much that might effect your particular spec though we wouldn’t be able to say.

4) The way the game handles texture resolution has changed. In ROME II it was tied to the quality setting. In ATTILA it is based on available VRAM.

Finally, make sure you update all your drivers to the latest versions before you play on Tuesday, that is likely to make a huge difference.

[Totalheadache]

Extreme quality meant for future graphics cards...

Hohoho pull the other one...are you serious?

This is going straight up at guru3d...they will love this..

[Nico CA]

Extreme quality meant for future graphics cards...

Hohoho pull the other one...are you serious?

This is going straight up at guru3d...they will love this..

Hi Totalheadache,

Thanks for your message. We are also planning for the future with Total War: ATTILA so that the game can make the most of graphics cards that are yet to be released.

[Totalheadache]

Hi Totalheadache,

Thanks for your message. We are also planning for the future with Total War: ATTILA so that the game can make the most of graphics cards that are yet to be released.

How it that possible when you dont know what they are??????????????????????

SLI is working according to Nvidia, They've said they already have profiles setup for Attila

Seeing is believing...

[damien007]

How it that possible when you dont know what they are??????????????????????

The settings are designed to use more power than is currently available (outside of 4xSLI). But will be available with graphics cards in the future?

[LestaT]

How it that possible when you dont know what they are??????????????????????

Dev house usually gets prototype of in development GPU (and CPU).

[Totalheadache]

Dev house usually gets prototype of in development GPU (and CPU).

Sorry to say but I think thats baloney. Have been a member of a tech site for years and have never heard of or seen it done.

Wait I'll ask the owner of the site...

[paradamed]

Hi Totalheadache,

Thanks for your message. We are also planning for the future with Total War: ATTILA so that the game can make the most of graphics cards that are yet to be released.

Hahahaha, funny thread! I cant really believe my eyes. There is always a first time for everything but seeing an official dev already with an excuse for bad performance is an entirely new experience.

[Killerbee]

Hahahaha, funny thread! I cant really believe my eyes. There is always a first time for everything but seeing an official dev already with an excuse for bad performance is an entirely new experience.

What bad performance ? Here's merely stating they added extra graphic options for future GPUs.

[Huberto]

Hi Totalheadache,

Thanks for your message. We are also planning for the future with Total War: ATTILA so that the game can make the most of graphics cards that are yet to be released.

What cards are those? I want to start saving for one.

[alQamar]

Extreme quality meant for future graphics cards...

Hohoho pull the other one...are you serious?

This is going straight up at guru3d...they will love this..

now the time has passed I can confirm even a future graphics card and future RAM and CPU won't fix performance to an acceptable level compared to other most modern games or even worse than Warhammer 1 achieves out of the box.
great marketing move Nico.

let's agree Attila should have been based on WH1 64 bit engine as i have plead for since the Rome 1 performance desaster. you simply overstretched the capabilities of a 32 bit old tuned engine you were using since Empire.



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[agent 47]

Nice, future proofing is always welcome.

From my understanding there is no MSAA x2, any reason for that? Its a nice sweet spot between jaggys and performance, especially on 1440p displays.

[Nico CA]

Nice, future proofing is always welcome.

From my understanding there is no MSAA x2, any reason for that? Its a nice sweet spot between jaggys and performance, especially on 1440p displays.

Hi agent 47,

Thanks for your message. We are looking at adding 2xMSAA and 8xMSAA post launch.

[Totalheadache]

Hi agent 47,

Thanks for your message. We are looking at adding 2xMSAA and 8xMSAA post launch.

what no x2 msaa...and whos the 8xmsaa for 4x980 sli on 1080p?

oh wait sli isnt working so pray tell what use is 8xmsaa?

[damien007]

what no x2 msaa...and whos the 8xmsaa for 4x980 sli on 1080p?

oh wait sli isnt working so pray tell what use is 8xmsaa?

SLI is working according to Nvidia, They've said they already have profiles setup for Attila

[boeing]

Please note, that the ‘Extreme Quality’ setting is meant for future graphics cards

I just couldn't resist signing up to comment how silly this is You don't get to hand wave it like this. You can't rely on something that doesn't exist to solve your problem, because that something might not come to existence in the first place. True, future video cards will have more shaders, more memory, higher clock, but if the video card makers don't include driver-specific optimizations it will take many many years until the performance is satisfactory.

[alQamar]

what no x2 msaa...and whos the 8xmsaa for 4x980 sli on 1080p?

oh wait sli isnt working so pray tell what use is 8xmsaa?

Hey Headache don't overdrive it please. SLI is actually working as you can see here.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...view-of-Attila

Implementation of 2x and 4x MSAA or even other more advanced filtering methods is very much needed and appreciated Nico CA.
I know it might be a bit early but is DirectX 12 optimization for Rome 2 and / or at least on your Agenda? Just a couple of months till Win X will hit the scene.

Thanks for a (vague) reply.

Please also have a read at my Rome 2 release vs Rome 2 patch 16.1 performance comparison Nico CA and share it with the devs. It's now evident that the performance increases haven't been that huge in the Rome 2 benchmark as they MIGHT have been in the rest of the game like the campaign map for some configurations.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14346624

I really hope that you can use this findings and make the optimization better in Attila. Please not just by removing features as you also did in Rome 2.

When I did the comparison of Rome 2 1.0 vs Rome 2 16.0 it was obvious enough that some things have been changed, like:

- more LoD issues (texture poppings)
- removed ground textures
- no water drops on the cam lens

[Totalheadache]

Hey Headache don't overdrive it please. SLI is actually working as you can see here.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...view-of-Attila

Implementation of 2x and 4x MSAA or even other more advanced filtering methods is very much needed and appreciated Nico CA.
I know it might be a bit early but is DirectX 12 optimization for Rome 2 and / or at least on your Agenda? Just a couple of months till Win X will hit the scene.

Thanks for a (vague) reply.

What sub 60fps isnt working from where I am looking at...but yeah I guess you could say its working in its relation to the other results. But 970 sli to 980 sli showing a 6 fps gain that again tells me something aint right...

But then quad sli doesnt work very well yet either I am led to believe so my post re 8xmsaa still stand...it just aint gonna happen on any rig that I can see..

[agent 47]

Hi agent 47,

Thanks for your message. We are looking at adding 2xMSAA and 8xMSAA post launch.

Lovely stuff, thanks for the reply.

[rafmc1989]

‘Extreme Quality’ – future cards – no card is set to this out of the box

"Extreme Quality" setting is not supported by the old Warscape engine, I strongly suppose.
A new 64 bit graphic engine based would have worked a lot better without the need of any future GPUs, as you sad previously.
An engine as Warscape not fully supporting DX11 (and multi-core CPU high-end PCs) won't passably run Attila TW at extreme quality, so buy a new GPU is just a waste of money!