XGM 4.1.20 beta

**DimeBagHo** · November 08, 2006, 06:18 PM

Here's a link to a beta version of XGM 4.1.20 [link removed]. It should be bug free, and it should work with saved games back to version 4.1.0, but there are some complicated changes so I'm calling it a beta for now.

The changes include:

-Loyalty activated for Carthage
-Numidia converted to Carthage rebel faction
-Carthage and Numidia unit rosters merged
-Added install option to make Seleucid rebels playable as Baktria
-Added install option to reduce AI economic bonuses
-Added scripts to spawn extra stacks when cities rebel to rebel factions

**Locky** · November 08, 2006, 10:59 PM

Ohh, goody Dimey. I'll download it now.

**LittleWeiz** · November 09, 2006, 03:29 AM

Does bug free mean no more capture settlement CTD? The CTD whereby you capture an enemy settlement during AI turn. Other than that i dont think there are other bugs seriously affecting my gameplay. Anyway, what does the loyalty thing do? Does it make your general easier to bribe/revolt? Thx in advance.

**DimeBagHo** · November 09, 2006, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by LittleWeiz

Does bug free mean no more capture settlement CTD? The CTD whereby you capture an enemy settlement during AI turn. Other than that i dont think there are other bugs seriously affecting my gameplay. Anyway, what does the loyalty thing do? Does it make your general easier to bribe/revolt? Thx in advance.

I'm not sure about that bug. I haven't seen it for a while, so it might be fixed. If anyone does get it with the new version I'd like to know.

If your family members have low loyalty then there is an increased risk that they will join the rebel faction.

**swhunter** · November 10, 2006, 12:10 AM

Dime
Is this a new update for XGM ?
Or for a test? Was Numbia a real faction at this time?
what is beta version ? Does it deal with our XGMs new updates?
thanks

**DimeBagHo** · November 10, 2006, 04:56 PM

A beta version is a test version.

Yes Numidia was, for a while, an independent power. Prior to the Second Punic War (ended 202 BC) they were clients of Carthage. After the Jugurthine War (ended around 106 BC) they became clients of the Romans, and then part of the Roman Empire. In between they were somewhat independent, although still largely dominated by Rome.

**Kara Kolyo** · November 11, 2006, 07:16 AM

Hi Dime sorry for the delay of the feedback, but these days i cheated on XGM with the Crusades

managed to play arround 20 turns and all seems fine with Baktria. ofcourece the seleucids and the parthians cose to attack me instead of eachother but so far i'm holding them. can't open the imageshack right now but in 269 bc all factions are expanding really fast, parthia has almost all of the east, numidia holds huge part of africa and so on.
only one thing - can you please tell me what should i cange to make the phalanxes in closer formation? because even sparabara manage to break through the front....

**Ceki** · November 11, 2006, 08:20 AM

Playing with Chartage... Quite sadisfied!

**LittleWeiz** · November 12, 2006, 10:16 AM

AHHH! I played on H/H with the romans and the same old CTD happens!! I was beseiging a gallic town and they got reinforcements. They lost the battle and the entire army got routed and i conquered the city. What happened next you should know. =(. Maybe i installed this beta wrongly? But even if so, my XGM would be like 2 versions back. The carthaginians dont seem to have loyalty too.
I play on highest settings and huge army. Hope it helps.

Another thing i noticed is that by 50 turns, my spy reported 2-3 full stacks of romans. They had wiped phyrrus out and had complete control over italy. They dont seem to have anymore territories captured. I was playing as the carthaginians then. I tried romans this time and i dont seem to get to anything near 1 full stack in 30 turns. Its H/H on both btw. So is it really possible to have 2-3 full stacks? Upkeep wise it would be around 20k and the recruitment is another thing. It just makes me frustrated to see them outnumbering me. Comparing stats, romans are more effective against carthaginians.

I would try to reinstall RTW tomorrow and see if it helps. Its GMT+8 here so its a little past midnite now and i have exams soon. LOL shouldn't be playing

**DimeBagHo** · November 13, 2006, 12:23 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I should have a non-beta version out later today.

Kara Kolyo: You need to change the formation lines in export_descr_units.txt. The current line for all phalanx units is...

Code:

formation        1.33, 1, 2.66, 2, 8, square, phalanx

...which you can change to...

Code:

formation        1, 1, 2, 2, 6, square, phalanx

LittleWeiz: Loyalty for Carthage should be working (works for me anyway).

**Kara Kolyo** · November 13, 2006, 12:38 PM

thx Dime, btw i tried couple of turns with carthage the loyalty didn't work too... will try it later again
Edit: yep in the early years atleast carthage has no loyalty activated

**DimeBagHo** · November 13, 2006, 12:51 PM

OK, I see the problem. If you use the playable Baktria option, loyalty is disabled for Carthage as well. I'll fix that in the next version.

**Ceki** · November 13, 2006, 02:00 PM

I play with Rome now... Bad news... Chartaginian cities rebel too fast. By the end of 259... Chartage and city below become Chartage rebel, reducing Chartage to Spain provinces where Iberian kick them hard... Also, I was wondering... Why players faction cannot build Dido's shrine(founding monument)?