(Some) Atheistic Females celebrate Abortion Parties

[fkizz]

You've heard of divorce parties, right? The idea is you deal with a difficult time in your life, by throwing a party. Maybe I've been living on Mars, but I've never heard of abortion parties--until now. One woman describes her friend's A-party--complete with dancing and booze...
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I will admit, my eyes bugged out a little when I read the words "abortion" and "party" in the same breath. But it's what some women are doing to help them heal from abortions--or in some cases, like the story below, the party actually helps pay for the abortion.
Writer Byard Duncan wrote about her friend "Maggie's" recent abortion party.

"Maggie, a 22-year-old college senior with no intention of bringing a child into the world yet, was going to have an abortion," writes Duncan. "She told us that she had already made up her mind; she had even determined the time, date and location. ... 'We're having a party Friday to raise money,' Maggie said. 'You guys are obviously invited.' An abortion party. For the price of whatever we were willing to donate, she explained, we could partake of baked goods, beer and dancing. It was going to start at 10 p.m. at Maggie's."
She goes on to write about the party, in all of its weirdness, and how her pal ended up raising enough money for her forthcoming abortion.

So, having read on abortion parties, or heard of it, because for me personally the subject is sort of both bizarre to understand, what do you think personally of it?

For some of you abortion is a huge victory on the woman body, for me I personally find it a very grey area where each case is a case, so I don't either "support" or "condemn" abortion, because I can't answer individually for each case, although on a visceral level it causes me some sadness, I understand that in some cases, it can be justified, but shouldn't be encouraged, neither forbbiden. Should be seen as a last resort measure of sorts, and the value judge can very with each case, making hard to generalise a moral judgement on abortion, due to its non equality of each difference circunstance where the dilema is presented, this in my own personal opinion.

But this people who after freeing themselves from the bigot constraints of christian morality are throwing away abortion parties, in celebration of the abortion, this seems as a bit too far off to me, personally speaking, encourages wrong behaviour, although I won't police what are their likes, I have the right to personally feel repulsed by parties to celebrate abortions.

What do the pro choice hawks think of abortion parties? A healthy way of coping with women body freedom, or is it people taking freedom to go on a wrong path? Do you support abortion parties? Would you join one if invited? Would you help pay for an abortion party? Have you ever been to one?

Also does this seem legit enough or a mass media pushing for panic for a quick revenue? All opinions and input welcome here

Note: main purpose of this thread is the abortion party in itself, rather than the abortion.

http://www.glamour.com/health-fitnes...sy-women-who-t

[Sphere]

I've been to plenty of abortion celebrations. It has never involved women though. That would be a little awkward.

[War lord]

In before the nutcakes

As I understand it it's a fundraiser not a celebration. It's no more wrong then Conservatives holding a fundraiser to support an anti-gay marriage agenda. People tend to forget that the procedure isn't cheap and that's before you get into travel costs and the like.

[Phier]

We almost all have a bit a weird side.

Some people are very weird.

This was very weird. A abortion costs about $500 dollars, these are just weird people sort of celebrating their weirdness. Means nothing.

[fkizz]

We almost all have a bit a weird side.

Some people are very weird.

This was very weird. A abortion costs about $500 dollars, these are just weird people sort of celebrating their weirdness. Means nothing.

Heh. A party has its cost too, and if they need or want to party to celebrate the abortion, raise the cost by a few hundred dollars more. This will be profit for someone.

On means nothing, what would you say to your daughter if she asked you to pay for her big abortion party with her friends? Would it mean nothing? (asides from the extra money leaving your pocket)

[War lord]

It's a fundraiser not a celebration. Can we atleast get to page two without pro-lifers getting hysterical.

Phier, I'm not a Yank but I'm pretty sure $500 is not an insignificant amount of money for a Collage student.

[fkizz]

It's a fundraiser not a celebration. Can we atleast get to page two without pro-lifers getting hysterical.

Phier, I'm not a Yank but I'm pretty sure $500 is not an insignificant amount of money for a Collage student.

1) the abortion party fundraiser raises the cost (or profit, depending on angle) with all the extra costs and consumption done in it, with the alcohol add more possible accidental pregnancies which then can lead to more costs and profit. It's more than 500$ in final cost.

2) your mass media keeps worrying about student debt bubble and too high tuition fees.

Total Student Loan Debt: $1 Trillion
College (Photo credit: 401(K) 2013)



Two-thirds, that’s right, two-thirds of students graduating from American colleges and universities are graduating with some level of debt. How much?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/specialf...d-the-economy/

[jockmcplop]

Some people love to party. Who are we to say whether or not its right or wrong?

As long as there's not decomposing fetuses all over the walls of the party, i'm sure the event itself isn't brimming with inappropriate behaviour so let them get on with it.

[Denny Crane!]

Some people love to party. Who are we to say whether or not its right or wrong?

As long as there's not decomposing fetuses all over the walls of the party, i'm sure the event itself isn't brimming with inappropriate behaviour so let them get on with it.

if nothing else health and safety would probably get involved. They are the new satan.

[Caelifer_1991]

The idea of abortion does not especially bother me, better to have an abortion than to bring a child into the world without the means to support it. What bothers me about this though, besides the idea of having any kind of fun in any kind of event that has anything to do at all with such a decision, is the possibility of the potential mother drinking at the party. Sure, she may have "made up her mind", as the report puts it, but what if she has second thoughts just before the procedure and backs out of it? Humanity gets to greet a newly born retarded/ brain damaged individual into the world, and be burdened with the responsibility to support it for the next 100 years. What kind of ing idiot takes that kind of risk?

[Phier]

Heh. A party has its cost too, and if they need or want to party to celebrate the abortion, raise the cost by a few hundred dollars more. This will be profit for someone.

On means nothing, what would you say to your daughter if she asked you to pay for her big abortion party with her friends? Would it mean nothing? (asides from the extra money leaving your pocket)

I'd assume I failed as a parent, or she got the bad genes between my wife and I. Not so much because of the abortion but because its a stupid idea.

When I say it means nothing, I mean it means nothing in a big picture sense. Even a game of cards between friends means SOMETHING just not to anyone else. I once offered to pay for an abortion (not due to me ) but it turned out if was a false alarm.

Phier, I'm not a Yank but I'm pretty sure $500 is not an insignificant amount of money for a Collage student.

Not to mention, in situations where finances are an issue, planned parenthood offers financial assistance.

[Mangalore]

@OP: Your source doesn't support the claim that any of the women were atheists. It actually makes no mention of their theistic worldview.

[Aeneas Veneratio]

Like Mangalore just said, those women aren't described as atheists, their religious affiliation isn't even mentioned. Your personal agenda again, fkizz?

[Phier]

This one got it right...

Not really. The opposite of something does not make it true. You celebrate beating cancer, but do you celebrate is diagnosis? You COULD of course, but that would be pretty darn weird. Weird like celebrating an abortion.

[Sir Adrian]

Outside of rape cases and freak accidents (like that woman who got pregnant in Iraq after a bullet shot though a rebel's balls and entered her uterus) I don't really understand abortion. If you don't want a kid use prophylactics or just give him away for adoption, there's plenty of families out there who desperately want a child but can't have one. With abortion you might be killing off the next Mozart or Einstein.

[War lord]

Outside of rape cases and freak accidents (like that woman who got pregnant in Iraq after a bullet shot though a rebel's balls and entered her uterus) I don't really understand abortion. If you don't want a kid use prophylactics or just give him away for adoption, there's plenty of families out there who desperately want a child but can't have one. With abortion you might be killing off the next Mozart or Einstein.

Childbirth is a pretty horrific thing, that's actually the main reason I'm pro-choice, a woman shouldn't have to go through that unless she's physically and mentally ready. The adoption argument is stupid. There's no shortage of living Children up for adoption and there's no shortage of possible geniuses living in orphanages.

It's irrelevant anyway, it should be a woman's choice what to do with her body, and she shouldn't have to justify it to anyone else.

[Aeneas Veneratio]

Not really. The opposite of something does not make it true. You celebrate beating cancer, but do you celebrate is diagnosis? You COULD of course, but that would be pretty darn weird. Weird like celebrating an abortion.

In a way they are just celebrating the fact that a woman is "allowed" to avoid giving birth, when she isn't ready and/or didn't want the baby in the first place (alcohol related or "too" spontaneous (this one I don't really approve of, though), or after a rape). Child birth is painful and at times deadly, so the fact that women have a choice is cause for some celebration.

[Copperknickers II]

Childbirth is a pretty horrific thing, that's actually the main reason I'm pro-choice, a woman shouldn't have to go through that unless she's physically and mentally ready. The adoption argument is stupid. There's no shortage of living Children up for adoption and there's no shortage of possible geniuses living in orphanages.

It's irrelevant anyway, it should be a woman's choice what to do with her body, and she shouldn't have to justify it to anyone else.

I don't know what the point in this thread is. Nobody in the western world thinks that women shouldn't be allowed to do want they want to their own body. The problem, is that when a woman is pregnant, her body becomes host to another body that is NOT hers. If she honestly believes that a foetus is not a human being, then she can do whatever she wants and she shouldn't be penalised or judged for it.

Meanwhile civilised people will continue to campaign for the lives of unborn children until abortion becomes illegal except for extreme cases like rape and health risk to the mother. There is really no argument to be had here. Nobody is ever going to convince me and the rest of the 'pro-life' (or as we like to call it, the 'actually enforcing the law of murder') movement, that a foetus isn't a human being with the same rights as any other child, and I doubt I'm going to convince anyone of the reverse in a TWC thread.

[Denny Crane!]

Ah the usual pathetic attempt at a reframe of "civilised" people will continue to promote his point and so perpetuating some unprovable myth/lie that people who do not agree with him are not.

So in fact he is saying the majority of the UK are not civilised which is of course a stupid position to take.

[Sir Adrian]

Childbirth is a pretty horrific thing, that's actually the main reason I'm pro-choice, a woman shouldn't have to go through that unless she's physically and mentally ready. The adoption argument is stupid. There's no shortage of living Children up for adoption and there's no shortage of possible geniuses living in orphanages.

It's irrelevant anyway, it should be a woman's choice what to do with her body, and she shouldn't have to justify it to anyone else.

You must have missed the whole "mortality rate in the west is increasing dramatically" issue that's been going on for the last 60 years, oh well. But I am curious to know who you think will pay your pension in 50 years time if the actual trends keeps up, your secret santa?

Childbirth being horrific is a shoddy position at best. Is it painful yes, slightly less than a full kick in the nuts according to various studies, is non-painful childbirth possible in western countries, yes. Is it readily available, yes. Number of women who have thus far claimed the experience is horrific, 0.
Also if you are that scared of childbirth there are procedures which can prevent you from getting pregnant and are less painful, less damaging and less emotionally scarring than abortion. Grated it's permanent, but so is the damage to your reproductive system after the second abortion (or if you are unlucky the first abortion)