Total War: ATTILA - Red Horse Trailer

[Huberto]

CA is still in love with their gawdawful kill-move animations, I see.

[Sheridan]

Is the music starting at 1.48 from the in game soundtrack?

[ariyan]

Some pictures from the trailer
Heavy archer



swordmen




and sughdian warriors




we will strike

[Cohors_Evocata]

Nice trailer, although I'm somewhat confused about the apparant Sassanid desert fetish.

[Anibal at portas]

i see that the colors of the uniforms of barbaric factions as the Visigoths and the Sassanid Empire have very vivid and unreal colors.
more muted colors needed for the clothes of the units of these factions.

[Zwirbaum]

Medieval 2 introduced these things 8 years ago...

I love how CA is marketing Attila's campaign features and changes to be something "new", as if the family tree, marriages, agents and smarter UI are all innovative ideas to TW.

Features you mentioned in Medieval 2 were not in depth. Marriages were mostly barebones - (marriage as a action to possibly steal some general from enemy faction, yeah what a great idea and bringing so much depth, especially when we consider the fact, that generals besides walking bodyguard uber-men unit didn't bring anything special or great) and agent usage? Sabotage which was in most situations plainly useless, planting spy to incite revolts in enemy towns never worked, and some actions revolved around glorified kill actions (Seize Assets,Denounce Heretic/Witch). This time from what it is shaping it has possibility to have some MEANINGFUL in-depth interactions.

[Le_Swede]

Some pictures from the trailer


we will strike

Yeah this trailer made me excited to play the sassanids.

Think I'm gonna play them as my second campaign (after ERE).

[RGA]

The game itself will contain a number of new features around army management and waging war to bring further depth to this key aspect of the Total War experience. Most notably, as the player you will have to consider the very real risks of keeping your armies in line against mounting losses, disloyal generals and fragmented food supplies.

A rogue commander can entice other wavering characters to mutiny, one of the triggers at play in the rich, new civil war system. Dark times call for dark measures, and amongst a variety of tactics players can employ to reduce the risk of such division, the brutal Roman practice of 'Decimation' (the systematic slaughtering of a tenth of an army) will restore temporary order at a high price.

I hope there would be somehow an ingenious mechanics that stops players from exploiting the fact that there will be a warning when a certain general is about to revolt, so one could always preemt his attemp by sending him on a suicidal charge.

[AngryPolack]

Medieval 2 introduced these things 8 years ago...

I love how CA is marketing Attila's campaign features and changes to be something "new", as if the family tree, marriages, agents and smarter UI are all innovative ideas to TW.

Exactly. Hard to get excited by features that should have been in Rome 2.

[tungri_centurio]

in game footage? when did i see that before?no thanks

[Lord Baratheon]

They recycled animations from previous trailers, but that's hardly gamebreaking. Can't really tell if unit collision is better than Rome 2 yet. It's the warscape engine so I'm not expecting much, but Shogun 2 battle standard should be the base considering how long CA's been working with the warscape engine. And those hideous cliffs on the campaign map are still there. I still have some hope for Attila though. The trailers are promising.

[texoman81]

Since the first culture pack added Vikings, the next will might well add Muslims. They would fit into BI2 just as well, though would be even more controversial. Actually the Muslim invasion of the Sassanid and Byzantine Empires came BEFORE the Vikings invasion of Europe. By the time of the beginning of the Viking Age, the Abbasids and Ummayads were already in power. By the end of the Viking Age, the Seljuks, Fatmids, and Almoravids were well established

It is nice to actually see a trailer that at least uses the in-game engine, even if its not actual gameplay. I continued to be troubled at how prevalent fire is going to be in this game. There are definitely some pyromaniacs on the CA staff. While this trailer did give us a better look as some Sassanid units, it didn't really reveal anything new and will convince few to buy the game.

[Sheridan]

Can't really tell if unit collision is better than Rome 2 yet.

It doesn't look like there's been any improvements on that area. At 2.00, you can see purple Romans(?) charging into the melee brawl and they're definitely not slowing down. It's not looking good..

[Epic28]

Features you mentioned in Medieval 2 were not in depth. Marriages were mostly barebones - (marriage as a action to possibly steal some general from enemy faction, yeah what a great idea and bringing so much depth, especially when we consider the fact, that generals besides walking bodyguard uber-men unit didn't bring anything special or great) and agent usage? Sabotage which was in most situations plainly useless, planting spy to incite revolts in enemy towns never worked, and some actions revolved around glorified kill actions (Seize Assets,Denounce Heretic/Witch). This time from what it is shaping it has possibility to have some MEANINGFUL in-depth interactions.

No.

Marriages also formed alliances in Med 2 meaning you could marry off princesses to secure peace, you could marry them to members of your family to maintain a pure blood line, not to mention princesses could in turn be used as diplomats.

Priests would spread religious conversion that would ultimately way on their impact with your Papal standing and if their Piety was high enough they would be promoted to Bishops and eventually would run for members of the Preferati and run for Pope elections. If you're pope was elected you gain maximum favor, likewise the opposite occurred if a rival factions bishop became elected your favor would suffer.

Lets not forget about Merchants that could add income to your treasury by seizing control of resources.

Spies did what spies were suppose to do, reveal information about cities, armies, and potentially get away with opening city gates upon a siege. Not over-powered plague machines capable of poisoning and killing half an army like in Rome 2.

Either way, agents are just one of the minor issues in need of an overhaul (or revisit) that Attila needs to address of Rome 2's strippage...

[NostalgiaFan]

No.

Marriages also formed alliances in Med 2 meaning you could marry off princesses to secure peace, you could marry them to members of your family to maintain a pure blood line, not to mention princesses could in turn be used as diplomats.

Priests would spread religious conversion that would ultimately way on their impact with your Papal standing and if their Piety was high enough they would be promoted to Bishops and eventually would run for members of the Preferati and run for Pope elections. If you're pope was elected you gain maximum favor, likewise the opposite occurred if a rival factions bishop became elected your favor would suffer.

Lets not forget about Merchants that could add income to your treasury by seizing control of resources.

Spies did what spies were suppose to do, reveal information about cities, armies, and potentially get away with opening city gates upon a siege. Not over-powered plague machines capable of poisoning and killing half an army like in Rome 2.

Either way, agents are just one of the minor issues in need of an overhaul (or revisit) that Attila needs to address of Rome 2's strippage...

Spoke my mind. I remember playing this one rise of the samurai campaign and one of the things I hated was how overpowered the agents were. I could not move my armies for a dozen or so turns and it frustrated me so dame much. I would rather have those "useless" spies from medieval 2 then the overpowered agents of chaos the new games have.

[Toho]

well ignoring the drama in this thread, nice trailer, I look forward to this game.

[Abdülmecid I]

The commentator of the video should definitely stop smoking. He was sounding like an Arab suffocated by too much hookah smoking.

and sughdian warriors :

The guy with the funny helmet is an officer, not a Sugdhian warrior.

[Toho]

The commentator of the video should definitely stop smoking. He was sounding like an Arab suffocated by too much hookah smoking. The guy with the funny helmet is an officer, not a Sugdhian warrior.

At this point I have resigned myself that people everywhere will view Persians as just Arab ancestors.

[Kahvipannu]

I liked the trailer. One thing I noticed was the lack of blood and gore, has there been any word if it will be included to Attila this time around, has it been improved, or is it the case they sell us the all ready existing same assets again?

[Ganossa]

I do like how they put the faction into context and give them some purpose and story. It makes it easier to role-play with them even if you dont know anything about the faction to begin with

I liked the trailer. One thing I noticed was the lack of blood and gore, has there been any word if it will be included to Attila this time around, has it been improved, or is it the case they sell us the all ready existing same assets again?

We already know that they have to do it to make their games available to everyone. They could however substract the price of the Blood&Gore DLC from the original Attila price.