[Preview] The Battle_interfaces for TGC

[hyretic]

Here are the battle_Interfaces for TGC.

Each culture, seven, have her own Interface. Each culture have a new template for the factionsymbols on the right side. But the Symbol and colours of the fraction are the same like the mainsymbol of this fractions.

For the fraction:
Lombards, Normans and Papal State

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For the fraction:
Croatia, Bulgaria, Bulgaria rebels and Serbia

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For the fraction:
HRE, Moravia and Franks

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For the fraction:
Fatimids, Abasids, Kalbids, Chandax, Aghlabids and Tulunids

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For the fraction:
Roman Empire and Roman Rebels

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For the fraction:
Kiev

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For the fraction:
Magyars, Turcomans and Pechenegs

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We hope, yuo like it a Little.
many greetings the TGC-Team

[Wallachian]

Superb work! Congrats!

[BarnicleBill1]

Awesome stuff here!

[demagogos nicator]

Very nice , although I would prefer something else than black eagle on yellow field for the franks/german and moravians as this symbols associates with high middle age HRE and it seems to me out of place for TGC timeframe. I would advise to use some kind of religious motive instead.

[hyretic]

I know. But HRE is not a faction in campaign of the mod. It is a fraction for custom battles.
I don't know why. Perhaps Antonius can answer the question.
The fraction in the campaign for the North are Franks and Morawia.
This are the symbols for both for the battle-Interface:
Franks:


Morawia:

[demagogos nicator]

German faction is not in the campaign because it is evolution of Eastern Frankish faction (Francia Orientalis changes to the Imperium Romanm after the military reforms took placeand frankish roster will be replaced with german).

Please do not use the symbol above for the moravian faction as the symbol above is a symbol of later Margraviate of Moravia and it is absolutly inaccurate to use it for the Great Moravian Principality (I would say it is as inaccurate as using English or Spanich coat of arms instead). Do not forget that coat of armes started to be used in Europe only about 100 years after the end date of this mod. I would advice you to use some of theese pictures for the base of Moravian symbol:

http://www.pokladymoravy.cz/wp-conte...2010/10/5c.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ul%C4%8Dic.png

As for the East Franks I would also prefer the symbol with angel which were previewed as a part of Francia orientalis preview:

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[hyretic]

The symbols aren't from me. This symbols are older as i am in the team.
I can change the symbols no problem. Antonius must say this, and i change this.

I know that the starting of coa with the beginning of the knights.

[AnthoniusII]

1st of all that is a great work!!
Congats hyretic.
About symbols its true that symbols must re-locate because a change Absinthia did a while ago made some things gone a bit messed up!
Frankia Orientalis will have the Angel symbol...
UI symbols will be in a final order soon! Its not hyretic's fault.
About HRE. Read FAQ...HRE will "replace" East Frankia after a major event.
Our task is that the player that will start with Frankia orientalis will recieve an event of Otto's coronation. After this event the player will have the hard task to re-order his state and his armies!
The player will recieve a number of units as a transition help but he/she must re-organise the new state fast!

[hyretic]

Okay. Then i change the symbols of East Frankia.

[Marvzilla]

1st of all that is a great work!!
Congats hyretic.
About symbols its true that symbols must re-locate because a change Absinthia did a while ago made some things gone a bit messed up!
Frankia Orientalis will have the Angel symbol...
UI symbols will be in a final order soon! Its not hyretic's fault.
About HRE. Read FAQ...HRE will "replace" East Frankia after a major event.
Our task is that the player that will start with Frankia orientalis will recieve an event of Otto's coronation. After this event the player will have the hard task to re-order his state and his armies!
The player will recieve a number of units as a transition help but he/she must re-organise the new state fast!

Wouldn´t it be better to change it to the Roman Empire by the time Henry I. came to power ? I know he had reform the whole empire at first and even renounced a coronation.

[AnthoniusII]

Wouldn´t it be better to change it to the Roman Empire by the time Henry I. came to power ? I know he had reform the whole empire at first and even renounced a coronation.

Actually my friend no..Please read our Imperium Romanum (that actually means Roman Empire) preview!
We call it HRE instead of Roman Empire because that way we serve few goals for us (TGC mod).
1st : We point out the Romans (the ones you may call Byzantines) point of view in that dispute.
2nd: Even with the H letter infront of the RE "Germans" state still has the term Roman Empire in its title.
With that "confusion" we need to show the players the constant change of relations between the east and west under the dispute of who was the Legitimate Roman Emperor!
TGC mod will not try to change players minds of what they believe. But it will try to show them via the game , how the other people of that time saw issues like the Roman Empire heritage, the relations between Christians and Islamic world, the propspective of Both Romans and Bulgarians for their great war between them, the new dynamic change of the world durring of some people migrations etc!

[Aneirin]

Hyretic, lad, quite interesting to find your work around here
Looking forward to some more stuff from you!

[hyretic]

Hyretic, lad, quite interesting to find your work around here
Looking forward to some more stuff from you!

I have my dirty fingers in different and many things.


Thx to all for the many reps.

[Marvzilla]

Actually my friend no..Please read our Imperium Romanum (that actually means Roman Empire) preview!
We call it HRE instead of Roman Empire because that way we serve few goals for us (TGC mod).
1st : We point out the Romans (the ones you may call Byzantines) point of view in that dispute.
2nd: Even with the H letter infront of the RE "Germans" state still has the term Roman Empire in its title.
With that "confusion" we need to show the players the constant change of relations between the east and west under the dispute of who was the Legitimate Roman Emperor!
TGC mod will not try to change players minds of what they believe. But it will try to show them via the game , how the other people of that time saw issues like the Roman Empire heritage, the relations between Christians and Islamic world, the propspective of Both Romans and Bulgarians for their great war between them, the new dynamic change of the world durring of some people migrations etc!

I think you misunderstood me. I see the need for you guys to have different names for the Eastern Romans and the Frankish concept of the Roman Empire. I am only suggesting that the change from Eastern Francia to the Roman Empire should come earlier, at the accession of Ottos father, Henry. He was actually the one who made pacts of friendship with the dukes and made peace with the magyars, reforming the army and fighting against the slavs until he stopped payment and defeated the Magyars at the Battle of Riade (summarized a bit). I always had the impression that Otto I. received a kingship with a lot of momentum behind it, even though he had to prevail against his own brothers at first. That you use the slightly anachronistic HRE instead of Roman Empire was never something I critized. Its far easier to understand in discussions which Empire you actually mean with it.

[AnthoniusII]

That can be easily arranged! We will take this under further research! Thank you!!!

[Aneirin]

I have my dirty fingers in different and many things.


Thx to all for the many reps.

Well, that's true

Even in DIK!
I've almost forgotten to give you rep+

[hyretic]

Thx.

[TheWolfKing]

So hows the mod? It any closer to release?

[absinthia]

I am only suggesting that the change from Eastern Francia to the Roman Empire should come earlier, at the accession of Ottos father, Henry.

the condition for empire is not the name of the ruler but the condition of the realm.
unless i remember wrong (or things has changed) Otto was to be spawned alongside the HRE and could appear at anytime in the game, as long as expansionist conditons are met.
i believe also the death of the previous king was part of condition when we originaly made the concept.
of course one could spawn der Vogler, rather than his son, but he never was made emperor.

[Marvzilla]

the condition for empire is not the name of the ruler but the condition of the realm.
unless i remember wrong (or things has changed) Otto was to be spawned alongside the HRE and could appear at anytime in the game, as long as expansionist conditons are met.
i believe also the death of the previous king was part of condition when we originaly made the concept.
of course one could spawn der Vogler, rather than his son, but he never was made emperor.

I didnt base my suggestion on the time when the Eastern Frankish King was crowned emperor, but more on the condition of the units roster being bound to the HRE, as I thought the units shown were more fitting for Henrys rule than the late Carolingian one, apart from the kite shields.